Gas prices going even higher???

[BuckNaked]

What I want to know is, if supply and demand are really what's driving the prices, then why is gas cheaper in Orlando than where I live? Every time we go to WDW/Orlando, the gas prices are always lower there, the last time was about 3 weeks ago. I saw mid-grade for $2.19 (that was the average price), yet we paid $2.49 at home before we left. I think they purposely maintain lower prices in Orlando to lure the tourists, probably an uneducated guess on my part, but I honestly can't think of any other logical reason behind their lower gas prices.

It IS supply and demand, but it is the global supply and demand, not just U.S. supply and demand.

As for why gas is different prices in different places, there are a number of reasons. Some states and cities tax gas more heavily than others, so gas costs more than in other places. Other states or cities have different emissions requirements, which means that there are different formulations of gasoline, some more expensive than others.

 

[Charade]

My issue with SUV's is more of a safety issue than the gas issue. I haven't yet exoperienced anyone driving their vacation home on the highway and running me off the road because they don't bother to check their blindspots. The fact that they are gas guzzlers is the tip off the iceberg.


My experience with motor homes is most people drive them cautiously and I have yet see one weave in and out of traffic as though they are invincible.

I undertand the safety issue but that's not what you said earlier. Just now you mention it.

So even after saying:

And you know what, I do have some disdain towards those who buy Hummers and other large SUV's as status symbols. I have yet to see anyone toting their family around in a Hummer. And they are buying these gas guzzlers when we have a shortage. I find that a bit selfish. They are creating more of a demand for gas than my car that gets 36mpg on avg. And what gets me is, they don't care. They can afford it, so why should it bother me? Right now I can afford it too, but not sure how I will feel when gas is $5 a gallon.

you're still ok with people being selfish when they buy super big houses for a family of 3 or motorhomes that get 4-8 mpgs or vaction homes they use 12 times a year (just a guess) or people driving little rice burners that get 40 mpgs that might use more gas then a big SUV? Because all of these things (even if used with conservation in mind) could potentially use more precious resources than the SUV they own.

 

[CharlesTD]

We went from 96-98.7 cents a litre on Friday to 1.04-1.06 a litre yesterday so look at a gallon of gas in the and look at it like this 1 US gallon is 3.8 litres so at 1.04 a litre you are looking at 3.95 a US gallon mind you that is Canadian but with the strong Canadian dollar it isn't that far off.

 

[LoraJ]

I undertand the safety issue but that's not what you said earlier. Just now you mention it.

So even after saying:



you're still ok with people being selfish when they buy super big houses for a family of 3 or motorhomes that get 4-8 mpgs or vaction homes they use 12 times a year (just a guess) or people driving little rice burners that get 40 mpgs that might use more gas then a big SUV? Because all of these things (even if used with conservation in mind) could potentially use more precious resources than the SUV they own.

I did say it by saying I agreed with what Planogirl said. I also talked about it at length on another thread.

Not going in circles anymore. You seem to be the one who has a problem with motor homes and vacation homes. I don't think anyone is selfish for having a large home. Again, their house isn't going to run me off the road.

And like I said, good for the person who has the 40mpg car. Because they are conserving a lot more since they decided not to get a huge SUV.

 

[Charade]

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Not going in circles anymore. You seem to be the one who has a problem with motor homes and vacation homes. I don't think anyone is selfish for having a large home. Again, their house isn't going to run me off the road.

I'm not intentionally going in circles. You stated your feelings about the people who OWN SUVs (in addtion to the SUV itself). I'm just trying to understand how you can single out SUV owners for their selfishness while having a different opinion on people who selfishly own gas guzzling motorhomes, boats (I forgot boats!!), airplanes (I forgot airplanes too!), and own big resource hogging homes when they don't need all that space because there is only 3 people living there and the guy who burns up 50,000 miles of gas (at 40mpgs and while an SUV owner who drives a lot less burns up less gas because they only drive around town in it)

And like I said, good for the person who has the 40mpg car. Because they are conserving a lot more since they decided not to get a huge SUV.

Yeah, good for him. But as stated before, you can't rely on the notion that just because someone buys a 40mpg car he's going to use less gas than a person who owns a SUV.

But anywho, I'm done because you don't seem to want to own up to the fact that you have a different standard for SUV owners than you do for people who use a greater percentage of resources with other things they decided to buy.

 

[LoraJ]

sigh!
But I know plenty of people who do use large SUV's as their primary commuting car. I see peopel driving their Hummers everywhere> theya ren't church cars.

And you are going in circles because I stated that my main beef with SUV's is the safety factor. this was a discussion about gas. The kind we get at gas stations. And I added in my two cents. I just find it irresponsible for someone to buy a huge gas guzzler now when you know that there is a gas crisis and prices are soaring. And the attitude that they don't care how much it costs them to fill it up because they can afford it. And they'll probably continue to be able to afford it when it's $150 a tank to fill up. But what about the mother who has a mini-van for her 4 kids who now can't afford it?

The bottom line is, the motor industry needs to get off their bums and get going on alternative fuel sources.

 

[Christine]

sigh!
But what about the mother who has a mini-van for her 4 kids who now can't afford it?

LoraJ--You know we don't worry about them in this country. They made their (poor) choices and now they are stuck with it. If they had found a better job/better husband/went to a better college/didn't have so many kids, they could afford the gas.

 

[Charade]

LoraJ--You know we don't worry about them in this country. They made their (poor) choices and now they are stuck with it. If they had found a better job/better husband/went to a better college/didn't have so many kids, they could afford the gas.

Or they could just mooch off the rest of us who did make better choices.

 

[Charade]

sigh!
But I know plenty of people who do use large SUV's as their primary commuting car. I see people driving their Hummers everywhere> theya ren't church cars.

I agree. I see them a lot too but I don't really know where they are going or how much driving they are really doing.

And you are going in circles because I stated that my main beef with SUV's is the safety factor. this was a discussion about gas. The kind we get at gas stations. And I added in my two cents. I just find it irresponsible for someone to buy a huge gas guzzler now when you know that there is a gas crisis and prices are soaring. And the attitude that they don't care how much it costs them to fill it up because they can afford it. And they'll probably continue to be able to afford it when it's $150 a tank to fill up. But what about the mother who has a mini-van for her 4 kids who now can't afford it?

Ok, so you're main beef with SUVs is the safety issue. Got it. But you also said you dislike the owners.

The bold part says it all. You only have a problem with SUV owners but with no one else that is sucking oil like there's no tomorrow because of their selfishness.

Heck a person who owns a 40mpg car could also own a boat, a motorhome and an airplane and a super huge house.

The bottom line is, the motor industry needs to get off their bums and get going on alternative fuel sources.

Agreed. Happy? But as long as the market isn't there, it'll be a hard sell.

Take a look at the hybrid market that's emerging. If you are buying a hybrid to save money, for the most part, you'd better plan on keeping it for a long time to recoup your upfront costs. Otherwise, the only thing your doing is using less gas. Which itself is a good thing but people aren't calculating the overall cost of ownership for these cars. They will come down in price once production catches up with demand. The cost of ownership will come closer to it's gas cousin once that happens.

 

[LoraJ]

Nope! I never said I disliked the owners. I think many SUV owners buy them for selfish reasons though. That doesn't mean I dislike them as people.

I do want to buy a hybrid, but the reason why I haven't bought one yet is because I am waiting for them to become more commonplace so that the prices of the batteries and maintenance go down.

 

[chadfromdallas]

I do want to buy a hybrid, but the reason why I haven't bought one yet is because I am waiting for them to become more commonplace so that the prices of the batteries and maintenance go down.

Is maintenance more expensive with a hybrid?

Maintaining a hybrid doesn't cost any more than a conventional car, and may even cost less due to decreased wear and tear on the engine and braking system. You’ll probably want to take your hybrid to a dealer, especially considering that Toyota offers a 100,000 mile warranty on emission components and battery pack, and that Honda offers an 80,000 mile warranty on the same—on top of the traditional 3-year/36,000 mile warranty on the conventional systems. Dealer service centers do usually charge a little more, but classes are popping up all over the country to teach independent car mechanics about hybrids. After all, there will be hundreds of thousands of these cars on the road in the next couple of years, and mechanics will have to meet this demand. This timing works out well for new hybrid buyers. By the time your warranty is finished, there will be many more qualified hybrid mechanics available to you.

http://www.hybridcars.com/faq.html

 

[mum4jenn]

I just can't believe that Chad and I are on the "same page" !!! Hey Chad..whe you finish college will you buy me a hybrid???????? Please??????

 

[we3disneygo]

the price of gas in central IL at 3:00pm today was 2.75 for the cheap stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[chadfromdallas]

I just can't believe that Chad and I are on the "same page" !!! Hey Chad..whe you finish college will you buy me a hybrid???????? Please??????

Hybrids for everyone..on me

 

[LoraJ]

Hybrids for everyone..on me

Awesome! I will PM you my address! I'd like it in silver!

 

[Charade]

Nope! I never said I disliked the owners. I think many SUV owners buy them for selfish reasons though. That doesn't mean I dislike them as people.

I'm sorry, your right. You didn't say you didn't like them, just...

And you know what, I do have some disdain towards those who buy Hummers and other large SUV's as status symbols.

I do want to buy a hybrid, but the reason why I haven't bought one yet is because I am waiting for them to become more commonplace so that the prices of the batteries and maintenance go down.

I would probably get one to save money and gas, not just gas. Maybe my next car. The one I just bought (even with a V6) gets about 34 on the highway.

 

[LoraJ]

Sorry, I was using your word. It's more of an annoyance than disdain. It's not like I see a guy in a Hummer on the road and have evil thoughts about him all night and want to slash his tires.

My next car is definitely going to be a hybrid. I want to see if they make the Corolla a hybrid. But the Prius is very tempting.

 

[tinkamom]

Yesterday I filled my tank @ 2.55/gal. I stopped in a different town tonight to fill up again and it was $3.05! Scary! I put a small amount in and will look for a cheaper place tomorrow! I was going to go to the mall but changed my mind, I did not want t0o spend the $20.00 in gas to get there and back! I drive a ford taurus and I'm still spending $20 a day in gas!

 

[2BigKIdz]

I actually don't get the whole "I need an SUV" argument for winter driving. I used to live on a very very very steep hill and never had a problem getting my little Tercel up it during storms.

I also have an SUV for winter driving. I have to go to work no matter road conditions and I live 20 miles from work and half of that is down a windy, hilly country road. Every time we have snow or ice there are many non 4-wheel drives stuck on the sides of that road that thought they could make it and without 4-wheel drive they really don't stand a chance, some make it sure- but I'm not willing to take that chance.

 

[pat fan]

LoraJ--You know we don't worry about them in this country. They made their (poor) choices and now they are stuck with it. If they had found a better job/better husband/went to a better college/didn't have so many kids, they could afford the gas.

Or they could just mooch off the rest of us who did make better choices.

I can't tell from these posts, but I sincerely hope you are kidding.