Gabby Petito

[Lumpy1106]

I watched the police body cam video - all of it. They are both WAY too immature to be heading off on a "van life" expedition like they did, and I don't care that they already did something similar by car. They thought that trip through not at all. They didn't even have any means to get a hotel room. Only one has a cell phone. The van is nowhere near adequate for the kind of time they were spending together. Nobody has mentioned it, but drugs? Seems like they were on something to me - both of them.

What I suspect is that they had another blow-up, only this time he locked her out of the van and drove off for real. He had threatened to do that before the police video - no reason why he wouldn't follow through. Just judging by her mental state I would say yes, that does put her life at risk. It doesn't mean he killed her.

 

[mom2rtk]

Actually, I think the "creepy guy" angle killing of Gabby is also plausible...Gabby fits the profile that killed the other women - nomadic stage, young, heading from campsite to campsite...the cops think whoever killed the couple up and left town right after...

What I don't think is plausible is that Gabby or her boyfriend killed the couple - that would have been too easy to run down, and since there are 2 dead bodies, the cops can make murder charges if they match the forensics to someone, and they'd have 2 someones right now that are easily checkable...

So you think the same person who killed the other couple killed Gabby and the fiance was afraid and drove home? Seems like a possibility. But he's not doing himself any favors by not talking. And he's putting her family through hell (extra hell) if that's the case.

Morally yes I'd agree with you but criminally it matters a whole lot.

No doubt.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

The thing that sticks out to me the most is this guy isn't trying to spin, weave and come up with an elaborate story to reflect why she is no longer with him. Think about how many of these past guys have done just that when in the end they killed them They've said things like "she was leaving me", "she just up and left" "she was seeing another man" "she was going to take the kids", "she died and I just couldn't let her go" etc

This guy just isn't talking. That to me is the more interesting part. It may very well come out that he killed her and just isn't wanting to give more evidence against him and it could even be a vindictive move to not give the family closure. However, the fact that he's mum's the word well that's more interesting to me and why it doesn't have me thinking it's as clear cut guy killed g/f (though it could come out that's exactly what happened).

 

[JimMIA]

Here's a pretty decent timeline of this case: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...know-about-timeline-of-events-so-far/3277767/

 

[ParklandDISDad]

So you think the same person who killed the other couple killed Gabby and the fiance was afraid and drove home? Seems like a possibility. But he's not doing himself any favors by not talking. And he's putting her family through hell (extra hell) if that's the case.


No doubt.

The day that they were pulled over fighting. You hear in the video state that they were at a coffee shop all day from 9am-3pm on the computer. One of the two woman that were killed in Utah worked at that coffee shop and the owner of the shop confirmed she was working that morning. The last time either of them were seen or heard from before their bodies where found the following week was either that night or the following day, can't remember, but it was right in that same time frame. Craziness.

 

[mom2rtk]

The day that they were pulled over fighting. You hear in the video state that they were at a coffee shop all day from 9am-3pm on the computer. One of the two woman that were killed in Utah worked at that coffee shop and the owner of the shop confirmed she was working that morning. The last time either of them were seen or heard from before their bodies where found the following week was either that night or the following day, can't remember, but it was right in that same time frame. Craziness.

So what do you think happened?

 

[mrs. magoo]

On the other hand, once you learn about the police "questioning" process, you learn to NEVER speak to them without a lawyer present. Ever. No matter what you are accused of or even if you haven't been accused. This tactic of questioning is designed specifically to get people to admit to having done something, even if they are completely innocent. It's a psychological mind "screw." It is never in your best interest to voluntarily go in for questioning.

This is so true. My husband and I were on the way to the grocery store on a Sunday morning when we witnessed a man on a bike make a wide turn and then just fall off the bike in the middle of the street. We were the only witnesses so we immediately went to help him. I jumped out of the car while he dialed 911. We stayed with the unconscious man until the police, ambulance and fire men came. He was given 2 doses of narcam as it was a drug overdose. I am sure people who drove by thought we hit him. The police took our statements and then I really thought nothing of it until the police called me back a few days later asking for more details. I spoke with them but was very weirded out by the whole thing. I mean we were really Good Samaritans. The man had/has a pretty serious head injury. I was so weirded out that I called my detective brother who put out a call to the detective on the case who assured me that we had done nothing wrong and they were only following up on the fact that I saw a women bike by not long after he fell and apparently the man's family think the wife may have done something to him before he took the heroin. Still a very scary thing.

 

[luvsvacation]

The idea that the same outside person killed the 2 women and killed Gabby is pretty far fetched. The women were killed near Moab Utah on or around August 13th. Gabby was know by her parents to be in the Grand Tetons on August 25th. Thats 9 hours and a whole different state away. I highly doubt some random guy killed the 2 women and then followed Gabby for at least 12 more days to another state and killed her. It could be plausible that the boyfriend and/or Gabby killed the women but I’d lean more towards it being unrelated. If the murders would have been more accidental looking then I’d say maybe it was an accident and the guilt over what they did caused them a total breakdown and something happened from there. But with the women being shot multiple times I can’t figure out what would have caused them to do that. They don’t seem like the natural born killers type. I think the cases will turn out to be unrelated just highly coincidental. My top 3 guesses right now are that he killed her (probably accidentally), they split up (either him leaving or her running away, and when he realized she was actually missing he freaked) or it’s a publicity stunt (remember balloon boy).

 

[DLgal]

I watched the police body cam video - all of it. They are both WAY too immature to be heading off on a "van life" expedition like they did, and I don't care that they already did something similar by car. They thought that trip through not at all. They didn't even have any means to get a hotel room. Only one has a cell phone. The van is nowhere near adequate for the kind of time they were spending together. Nobody has mentioned it, but drugs? Seems like they were on something to me - both of them.

What I suspect is that they had another blow-up, only this time he locked her out of the van and drove off for real. He had threatened to do that before the police video - no reason why he wouldn't follow through. Just judging by her mental state I would say yes, that does put her life at risk. It doesn't mean he killed her.

I've seen some speculation that Brian may be on the Autism spectrum, which does explain his behavior in the video, as well as in some of their YouTube videos. At one point, the cop asked Brian if he took any medications and they muted out the first part of his response before hearing him say "but I don't take any medications", so he does apparently have some condition or other that maybe some people DO typically take meds for. We heard Gabby say she has "anxiety and OCD" but doesn't take meds. I wonder why they muted out Brian's answer but not hers.

In any event, they could absolutely be on drugs, based on their "lifestyle" and this whole nomadic existence/being at one with nature. I can see them doing psychedelics. They made it a point to say they don't drink, but interestingly the cops didn't ask about drugs. Just "medications."

I agree that they were ill prepared for this journey and really had no business being out on the middle of nowhere without means for emergency shelter and such. Just irresponsible, and I have a hard time understanding a lot about this whole situation.

 

[mom2rtk]

This is so true. My husband and I were on the way to the grocery store on a Sunday morning when we witnessed a man on a bike make a wide turn and then just fall off the bike in the middle of the street. We were the only witnesses so we immediately went to help him. I jumped out of the car while he dialed 911. We stayed with the unconscious man until the police, ambulance and fire men came. He was given 2 doses of narcam as it was a drug overdose. I am sure people who drove by thought we hit him. The police took our statements and then I really thought nothing of it until the police called me back a few days later asking for more details. I spoke with them but was very weirded out by the whole thing. I mean we were really Good Samaritans. The man had/has a pretty serious head injury. I was so weirded out that I called my detective brother who put out a call to the detective on the case who assured me that we had done nothing wrong and they were only following up on the fact that I saw a women bike by not long after he fell and apparently the man's family think the wife may have done something to him before he took the heroin. Still a very scary thing.

Would you do it again?

 

[Wendy31]

In farfetched reality -

What if the creepy guy is a serial killer, & he was at the restaurant stalking his next victim? He (or she but most serial killers are male) had his sights set on the newlywed couple, but he happened to be at the restaurant to witness Gabby & her boyfriend fight.

Like the newlywed couple, Gabby fits his profile.

He kills the couple.

Gabby & her boyfriend have another fight. Brian leaves her there.

The killer then stalks & finds Gabby.

Maybe he even offered her a ride after Brian left her, & he‘s the one that ends up taking her to wherever her last known location was.

And now Brian is feeling really guilty & embarrassed & knows leaving her alone was a totally jerky move & horrible thing to do. Maybe he even knows she went off w/ someone else after he threatened to leave her.

Again, totally far fetched. (And I’m not a true crime aficionado, but I don’t think most serial killers use guns, do they?)

But the coincidence of Gabby & BrIan being at the restaurant where one half of the couple worked, & she was there while Gabby & Brian were there is just really strange & intriguing to me. It’s probably a coincidence, but, still…

 

[mom2rtk]

In farfetched reality -

What if the creepy guy is a serial killer, & he was at the restaurant stalking his next victim? He (or she but most serial killers are male) had his sights set on the newlywed couple, but he happened to be at the restaurant to witness Gabby & her boyfriend fight.

Like the newlywed couple, Gabby fits his profile.

He kills the couple.

Gabby & her boyfriend have another fight. Brian leaves her there.

The killer then stalks & finds Gabby.

Maybe he even offered her a ride after Brian left her, & he‘s the one that ends up taking her to wherever her last known location was.

And now Brian is feeling really guilty & embarrassed & knows leaving her alone was a totally jerky move & horrible thing to do. Maybe he even knows she went off w/ someone else after he threatened to leave her.

Again, totally far fetched. (And I’m not a true crime aficionado, but I don’t think most serial killers use guns, do they?)

But the coincidence of Gabby & BrIan being at the restaurant where one half of the couple worked, & she was there while Gabby & Brian were there is just really strange & intriguing to me. It’s probably a coincidence, but, still…

I agree it's strange, but Moab isn't a very big place (the population center).

 

[ParklandDISDad]

So what do you think happened?

It just seems too crazy to be a coincidence that one of the two women who were killed actually met Gabby and Brian two days before they were killed (going by when their families/friends lost contact with them).

 

[luvsvacation]

In farfetched reality -

What if the creepy guy is a serial killer, & he was at the restaurant stalking his next victim? He (or she but most serial killers are male) had his sights set on the newlywed couple, but he happened to be at the restaurant to witness Gabby & her boyfriend fight.

Like the newlywed couple, Gabby fits his profile.

He kills the couple.

Gabby & her boyfriend have another fight. Brian leaves her there.

The killer then stalks & finds Gabby.

Maybe he even offered her a ride after Brian left her, & he‘s the one that ends up taking her to wherever her last known location was.

And now Brian is feeling really guilty & embarrassed & knows leaving her alone was a totally jerky move & horrible thing to do. Maybe he even knows she went off w/ someone else after he threatened to leave her.

Again, totally far fetched. (And I’m not a true crime aficionado, but I don’t think most serial killers use guns, do they?)

But the coincidence of Gabby & BrIan being at the restaurant where one half of the couple worked, & she was there while Gabby & Brian were there is just really strange & intriguing to me. It’s probably a coincidence, but, still…

Except that she spoke to her parents on the phone 12 days after the women were murdered and she was in another state 9 hours away from the murders. I’m sure she would have mentioned to them that she and Brian had split up and she had been riding around with some other guy for almost 2 weeks.

 

[GreatLakes]

My top 3 guesses right now are that he killed her (probably accidentally), they split up (either him leaving or her running away, and when he realized she was actually missing he freaked) or it’s a publicity stunt (remember balloon boy).

I think these are also the three most likely but in a different order. My #1 is she is crazy and ran off and he either tried to find her and failed or decided she did him a favor and left. He just wants to close that chapter in his life and since she is an adult capable of making her own decisions he isn't going to help.

Of course it is possible he killed her, possibly by mistake, or it is a publicity stunt but the smell test on this one is she left.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

For those who have a bit more information did she have a cell phone on her? If so did they try to ping it?

 

[pigletto]

It just seems too crazy to be a coincidence that one of the two women who were killed actually met Gabby and Brian two days before they were killed (going by when their families/friends lost contact with them).

Yeah three women are missing, we know they all met , and the only tie between all of them is HIM. It’s not that far fetched.

 

[DisneyLover1217]

I don't understand. How can he get away with not answering questions? Lawyer or no lawyer, doesn't he have to answer police questioning since he is the last person to have seen someone alive that is now missing and if he doesn't answer can't they arrest him for not cooperating in a missing person case?

 

[GreatLakes]

I don't understand. How can he get away with not answering questions? Lawyer or no lawyer, doesn't he have to answer police questioning since he is the last person to have seen someone alive that is now missing and if he doesn't answer can't they arrest him for not cooperating in a missing person case?

They don't even know a crime has been committed but in any case you don't have to cooperate with the police.

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[mjkacmom]

I think these are also the three most likely but in a different order. My #1 is she is crazy and ran off and he either tried to find her and failed or decided she did him a favor and left. He just wants to close that chapter in his life and since she is an adult capable of making her own decisions he isn't going to help.

Of course it is possible he killed her, possibly by mistake, or it is a publicity stunt but the smell test on this one is she left.

So he stole her van?