Gabby Petito

[Kms943]

Keep in mind he sent texts to her mother after she was already dead pretending to be her, so it’s not like he blacked out.

I may have missed something, so this is a serious question. How do we KNOW he sent those texts? If the authorities haven’t established or released an actual time of death, how do we know she was already deceased when the texts were sent? I remember seeing that her mom speculated that the texts may not have been sent by her daughter, but has that been confirmed? There’s been a lot of details coming out, so did I miss them confirming the boyfriend sent those texts?

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

No I didn't miss anything, you are talking about "every person" and we are talking about the ones who murder. Seems you are trying to twist what was said to mean all people with mental illness. That is a far cry of what was being said.

Once you take a person's life you are forever being capable of doing it. Period. If you need medication and therapy in order to control that capability you will always be a danger to society. Always.

Please don't try and turn this into an argument. There was no twisting of words. I'm not going to go back and forth on this.

 

[JimMIA]

The FBI is in the process of serving a search warrant at Brian Laundrie's home. They have declared the house a "crime scene" and have removed his parents from the home -- placing them in a van in the driveway to keep them from interfering in their search.

 

[MillauFr]

Why are police spend so many resources on just two people when there are hundreds of unsolved murders that are not investigated?

 

[aprilgail]

The FBI now has Brians house taped off as a crime scene as of half hour ago. I still don't know what to make of his parents- did they help him try to cover this up? She lived in their home with them, how could they not want to help locating her.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Why are police spend so many resources on just two people when there are hundreds of unsolved murders that are not investigated?

I don't think this is the thread for that discussion respectfully

 

[ParklandDISDad]

The FBI is in the process of serving a search warrant at Brian Laundrie's home. They have declared the house a "crime scene" and have removed his parents from the home -- placing them in a van in the driveway to keep them from interfering in their search.

Have the police said they are not under arrest? Only detained? Some news outlets are reporting they are under arrest... obstruction charges maybe?

 

[MillauFr]

They are all the facts I need to know.

Facts you need to know for what? The only facts I want to know is how much money police are spending looking for these two while other crimes go uninvestigated because the press hasn't taken an interest.

 

[MillauFr]

Have the police said they are not under arrest? Only detained? Some news outlets are reporting they are under arrest... obstruction charges maybe?

Some news outlets are reporting alternative facts.

 

[JimMIA]

Have the police said they are not under arrest? Only detained? Some news outlets are reporting they are under arrest... obstruction charges maybe?

I don't believe they are under arrest. When the mom came out of the house, she was not handcuffed or restrained in any way. In fact, she came out by herself and got into the FBI van. I didn't see the dad, but I assume he got in the passenger-side second row.

It just looks to me like they were removed from the crime scene for the duration of the search, which would be normal procedure.

 

[Moliphino]

Bad or evil folks often don't present with an obvious scary look or behaviors.
It's kind of disturbing, but good to know.

Yup. It reminds me of a tweet I saw after the Sarah Everard murder where a woman had been out drinking and her male friend walked her home and made sure she was safe. Then days later he murdered a sex worker.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I may have missed something, so this is a serious question. How do we KNOW he sent those texts? If the authorities haven’t established or released an actual time of death, how do we know she was already deceased when the texts were sent? I remember seeing that her mom speculated that the texts may not have been sent by her daughter, but has that been confirmed? There’s been a lot of details coming out, so did I miss them confirming the boyfriend sent those texts?

It hasn't been confirmed nor has the timeline of her death at this point (forensics still needs to do that).

So what I've read is that the mom received a text on August 30th saying "No service in Yosemite" I don't know if that message itself is more what lends the mom to think it was not from Gabby (and forgive me if there is more up to date information but the articles I read said the mom wouldn't name who she thought could have sent them) as in that's not how she normally speaks.

However the mom did say that "I think I can do math" because the van showed up on September 1st back in FL. I google mapped it and depending on just where they were at it's approximately 35 hours to get back to where his home is located at. Without knowing the timeline of her death (going with the information that they are pretty sure the body is hers) and when the texts were sent time-wise it actually can line up math-wise for it to be sent from her. I'm not making a statement here on what I personally believe just looking at the information we have.

One thing I'm confused on is the mom is adamant that the text is not from her, says she thinks she can do math because of the timeline of when the van showed back up in FL but she didn't report her missing until September 11th. I haven't seen any indication that further texts were sent out so I'm not sure about the "sending texts after she died pretending to be her" came from. I don't know what to think but if you're convinced that last text isn't from your daughter and then you didn't hear from her on the phone for days and days later IDK just one of those things where it's got my head scratched. That "No service" text was the last one she received from Gabby's phone per the articles so we're talking 13 days without word but Brian had been in FL for 11 of those 13 days. It's just a confusing timeline in itself though if someone has more information on that timeline please share.

 

[Kms943]

Why are police spend so many resources on just two people when there are hundreds of unsolved murders that are not investigated?

I’ll try and answer this from my perspective / experience and hope it doesn’t turn into a flame war. I believe the problem is, most people only see the cases that the MEDIA deems worthy or publicizing and have no real knowledge of just how many resources are spent on missing person/Foul play cases. In this case, the main reason you are seeing so many Police resources involved is many fold. That being that the murder of the newlywed couple in Utah was being investigated as possibly related to Gabby’s disappearance, also because the suspected place of her disappearance was in Grand Teton National park, the FBI got involved and then because the boyfriend showed up back in Florida with the van that was registered to Gabby. I don’t know where you get the facts that show hundreds of murders are not investigated. Are there murders every year that are never reported to law enforcement? Yes definitely that is true. Are there hundreds of murders that are unsolved every year? Sadly yes, that is also true, but the reality is unsolved and not investigated are not the same thing. Again, I’m not looking to be argumentative, but just wanted to share my opinion of the quoted post.

 

[MillauFr]

I believe the problem is, most people only see the cases that the MEDIA deems worthy or publicizing and have no real knowledge of just how many resources are spent on missing person/Foul play cases.

Exactly correct. Unfortunately society deems some people to be of more worth than others...

 

[GreatLakes]

I may have missed something, so this is a serious question. How do we KNOW he sent those texts? If the authorities haven’t established or released an actual time of death, how do we know she was already deceased when the texts were sent? I remember seeing that her mom speculated that the texts may not have been sent by her daughter, but has that been confirmed? There’s been a lot of details coming out, so did I miss them confirming the boyfriend sent those texts?

If the text was composed and sent without service, like in a remote area of Wyoming, the phone might have sent it as soon as service was established. Unless the boyfriend had the phone (not sure if that has been established/reported) he might not have sent anything. It might have sent itself as soon as the phone picked up service so it is possible Gabby composed and sent the text herself but it wasn't received until much later.

As for why this case gets so much attention it is a mix of:

• She was pretty and young
• The case was interwoven with another murder and the higher the body count the more coverage
• This case has crossed at least 4 jurisdictions including federal so there are more departments involved than others
• The strange situation with the fiance returning home and not talking
• The parents doing everything possible to keep her in the news cycle.

 

[mjkacmom]

Her last known location was grand Tetons weeks ago (where her body was found). The Yosemite message arrived the day before he got to Florida.

 

[Sinder]

One thing I'm confused on is the mom is adamant that the text is not from her, says she thinks she can do math because of the timeline of when the van showed back up in FL but she didn't report her missing until September 11th. I haven't seen any indication that further texts were sent out so I'm not sure about the "sending texts after she died pretending to be her" came from. I don't know what to think but if you're convinced that last text isn't from your daughter and then you didn't hear from her on the phone for days and days later IDK just one of those things where it's got my head scratched. That "No service" text was the last one she received from Gabby's phone per the articles so we're talking 13 days without word but Brian had been in FL for 11 of those 13 days. It's just a confusing timeline in itself though if someone has more information on that timeline please share.

From what I read her parents didn't know he was back in FL until 9/10 and then reported her missing the next day.
Gabby and her mom had Facetimed on the Aug 23 or 24 and Gabby and Brian were planning on heading to Yosemite. Her mom got the text on the 30th and had assumed they were in Yosemite without cell service and that is why she hadn't heard from Gabby.
I'm guessing it's a case of hindsight now to think that the text on the 30th wasn't really from Gabby.

 

[Kms943]

Exactly correct. Unfortunately society deems some people to be of more worth than others...

I truly believe that if you change “society” to “media” then this statement is true.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Her last known location was grand Tetons weeks ago (where her body was found). The Yosemite message arrived the day before he got to Florida.

It's 2 days before he got back in FL. Her last known location doesn't mean that was when the text was sent that's not the same as her being dead already. If the text was sent on August 30th there should be no reason, unless cell service actually wasn't existent and so it wasn't able to be transmitted until service was restored, for her mom not to have received it on her end right after it was sent.

 

[JimMIA]

I don't know if that one "no service" text is important or not, but one thing to keep in mind is that people do get the "Y Parks" mixed up.

If someone sent a text saying Yosemite when they were actually in Yellowstone, they certainly would not be the first to ever make that mistake.