FW Boats-Ladies Sit First

[stacktester]

I'm livid as u know what tonight. We were coming back from Magic Kingdom on the boat after EMH and there were several senior citizens and ladies having to stand up as all the seats were gone by the time they boarded. I said out loud I couldn't believe some people wouldn't give a seat to a lady or senior citizen. Not one boy or man stood up. I was shocked. Well ol stacktester made a scene at WDW tonight. When the boat stopped at WL and some seats came available some teenagers and men grabbed the seats as the seniors were still standing. I said ummm excuse me there's some ladies right here who are gonna take those seats. I had to walk the ladies to the seats as they were feeling awkward by now and looking at me like it's ok I'll just stand. This man who had 2 teenage boys and his wife on a row stood up and asked what my problem was. I said the problem is you don't have senior citizens standing when able bodies can stand up and offer a seat. He was P'd off but ol well. I don't know where these people come from but where I come from my momma would bust me with a 2x4 if I didn't show respect to seniors and ladies. I would've thought that after saying out loud somebody would've jumped up and said here's a seat. I don't know how many times I have. I see people all the time not getting doors and stuff too for people. It's a shame and I wish people showed some common sense. Sorry to just raise holy *^#L but I had to get this out lol.

 

[jocie]

AMEN!!!!!

I hear ya, that is just so disrespectful!

 

[Shannone1]

I'm livid as u know what tonight. We were coming back from Magic Kingdom on the boat after EMH and there were several senior citizens and ladies having to stand up as all the seats were gone by the time they boarded. I said out loud I couldn't believe some people wouldn't give a seat to a lady or senior citizen. Not one boy or man stood up. I was shocked. Well ol stacktester made a scene at WDW tonight. When the boat stopped at WL and some seats came available some teenagers and men grabbed the seats as the seniors were still standing. I said ummm excuse me there's some ladies right here who are gonna take those seats. I had to walk the ladies to the seats as they were feeling awkward by now and looking at me like it's ok I'll just stand. This man who had 2 teenage boys and his wife on a row stood up and asked what my problem was. I said the problem is you don't have senior citizens standing when able bodies can stand up and offer a seat. He was P'd off but ol well. I don't know where these people come from but where I come from my momma would bust me with a 2x4 if I didn't show respect to seniors and ladies. I would've thought that after saying out loud somebody would've jumped up and said here's a seat. I don't know how many times I have. I see people all the time not getting doors and stuff too for people. It's a shame and I wish people showed some common sense. Sorry to just raise holy *^#L but I had to get this out lol.

First off- I am totally jealous that you are there AGAIN !!

Secondly- Good for you !! Some people just have no manners. Even as a woman, I give my seat up for someone who is elderly (man or woman) or another mom holding a baby. I am a healthy woman...I don't have to sit !!

When we were there in April and got totally drenched in a downpour at MK we had to wait almost an hour to get on the boat back to FW. The line was all the way outside the pavillion !! Everyone was cold, wet and tired. They packed the boats as much as possible. Chad sat in one row and put our 10 yr old on his lap because she was sleeping. I carried our 6 yr old on my lap so someone else could squeeze in next to me. We were squished, but I figured we were all in it together at that point and we might as well try to make the best of it. By the time we got back to FW, my legs were asleep and my arms cramped up...but we survived. Wouldn't you know just about everyone on the bus was going back to the campground....I think 4 people got off the boat at WL . And you know...they wouldn't let anyone stand on the boats that night...they said it was against regulations. We were pretty close to an angry mob and were loudly complaining to the CMs that is was ridiculous to have little kids out here freezing and then not sending the boats back at capacity. We asked them repeatedly to let some people stand just to help get people back faster, and they wouldn't do it.

 

[bradisgoofy]

"Wouldn't let anyone stand" I've been on the big boats many times and there is always people standing when the crowds are large. What's up with that? Also, my DW and I, although not very senior citizens, both have leg and knee problems that make it difficult to stand for long lengths of time. We too have experienced younger people taking seats and making others stand.

 

[bigdisneydaddy]

Its everywhere in society, no one values social graces. Its the whole "I'm gonna get mine" attitude. I have NEVER sat on any WDW transportation if a woman, child or elderly person was standing, its kind of funny to watch the reaction of some folks when you give up your seat to someone, they look at you like you are crazy.
As with Stacktester... my Mother raised me better than that.

 

[disney4dan]

Same thoughts here Stacktester, I was always taught better manners than that and have given up my seat regularly. I guess all we can hope for is to set a good example and hope that some of the younger kids learn from the example. I was happy to see my teenage son and his friend get up and offer their seats to a woman on one of our recent trips. I have also noticed this when riding public transportation here locally, that some (certainly not all) of the younger adults and teenagers will get up and offer their seat.

Congratulations to you for taking your "stand" (pun fully intended! Sorry, couldn't resist)

 

[PattnFmly]

I hear you! I've dealt with this problem in Boston too, taking public transportation. People are just inconsiderate. You see it in everything from this issue, to having more items in the "10 item or less" line to having to beat you out from a stop light. Everyone needs to be first ... it just sucks. When we are bussing in WDW, we typically have our two DS's sit, and we stand in front of them to leave seats for others. DS's don't have the hang of ... hanging on when bus is moving!

 

[mouseketeer_mom]

Oh I got one for ya!

When I was about 6 months pregnant (read: very obviously pregnant), my mother, sister and I flew out of Dulles International to attend a cousins wedding. We had to take the shuttle out to our terminal. When we boarded the shuttle it was already pretty packed. We stood while an entire college age baseball team of young men sat! In uniform!

 

[I'mNoPrince]

sorry I have to disagree with you here.

If people want a seat they can wait for the next Boat Bus or however.

After 14hours in the parks The boys and men have been on there feet all day as well and if a seat is available then so be it.

Now on regular public transportation thats a different thing as you really can't expect them to wait for the next bus and hope it has an empty seat but at WDW they have that choice.

 

[DisCamper]

My soon to be wife & I always give up our seats to senior citizens men and women and also give them up to women with small children. Not just on the boat, but buses and monorail to.

 

[des1954]

I have mixed emotions on this one... I'm (1) A senior & (2) Female I've always figured if I can go for hours in a park, I can certainly stand another 10 minutes on the boat. Fortunately, I'm not so senior yet that I have any physical difficulties! Both DH & myself have offered our seats to those who appear to have trouble, or to parents with young, sleeping children. I've seen consideration more often then not, & we've been avid FW campers for 33 years.

I must admit though, when I see young teens or young adults sitting there oblivious to those around them, I get sort of steamed up! It's a shame that they have not been taught polite societal gestures, but then...who's to blame??? Probably their parents.

Most of the time, inconsideration still seem to be the exception, and not the rule.

My biggest pet peeve are parents who drag their small children around the park to the point of extreme exaustion. I understand that you've paid a lot of money for the vacation, but what fun is there in making your little ones (and yourselves) miserable in the name of having "fun"?

 

[David Johnson]

I would offer my seat to someone that i felt needed it BUT if these people ladies, seniors can walk a theme park for 12-14 hours then standing for ten more minutes so they can get to their resort does not bother me too much. What i don't seem to get is why someone would create such a ruckus over such a petty thing as this and then take the time to justify their behavior by writing this thread after they are home is baffling to me. I would love to create a scene at the end of my day over a seat. Happy trails.

 

[lawnspecialties]

sorry I have to disagree with you here.

If people want a seat they can wait for the next Boat Bus or however.

After 14hours in the parks The boys and men have been on there feet all day as well and if a seat is available then so be it.

Now on regular public transportation thats a different thing as you really can't expect them to wait for the next bus and hope it has an empty seat but at WDW they have that choice.

I'm always tired after a full day at the parks, but I ain't that tired.

.... What i don't seem to get is why someone would create such a ruckus over such a petty thing as this and create an awkward situation for everyone .....

I don't consider it "petty" but it did seem a little strong. Quite often, just doing the right thing, in front of others who aren't, can speak louder than any words.

 

[greytmom]

I would offer my seat to someone that i felt needed it BUT if these people ladies, seniors can walk a theme park for 12-14 hours then standing for ten more minutes so they can get to their resort does not bother me too much. What i don't seem to get is why someone would create such a ruckus over such a petty thing as this and then take the time to justify their behavior by writing this thread after they are home is baffling to me. I would love to create a scene at the end of my day over a seat. Happy trails.

You're kidding, right?

 

[greytmom]

I keep telling my DH, that Disney seems to bring out the worst in people.

One time we were waiting in line for the tram, in our row (they have those metal bars to separate the rows, so when the tram pulls up it aligns to the row on the tram, KWIM?) It was crowded. We were with our 3 kids. I was holding the baby and my two other kids got on the tram. My DH was folding the stroller and I was waiting for him to finish so we could get on. People in another row that should have waited for the next tram actually pushed my DH out of the way and got on the tram where we should have been sitting. Now my 2 kids are sitting there on the tram while my and DH are standing there with no where to sit with the baby!! I was floored. I'm sorry, but people show no respect , and this is what they are teaching their children. It's the same way when you try to get on some of the attractions, like the Teacups, for example, it's every man for himself, and that is one of the few things I hate about going to WDW.

 

[Mr Man]

I'm with OP on this one and give him my kudos. I don't see this as acting like Disneyland Police at all. Social graces are sorrowfully lacking in this day and age. I wholeheartedly believe in public shaming to highlight shameful behavior.

I set aside what may or may have not happened prior to entering the boat. because who knows, perhaps this senior citizen just turned in their ECV, perhaps they just ran the Disney marathon. It doesn't really matter. What does matter is it is not polite for a person in their prime to sit comfortably while an older person/with child/inhibited stands. Period. Boy Scouts taught me this much. Seems like common sense.

From there it is simply a matter of who wants to be polite & who doesn't. Me personally, I have a sliding scale on how I treat people. Start out with mutual respect and go from there (up or down). Preferably up of course.

 

[I'mNoPrince]

The biggest problem is that they bang into our Heads on a daily basis that everyone should be treated equally. That we should not offend anyone by making conssions to them. To be polically correct in everything we do.

Well I think the OP offended the ladies he was trying to help and guilted them into doing something they didn't want to do on their own.

I'm raising DD to fend for herself and not depend on a MANS Honor to get what she wants . If she wants a seat she will either ask for it herself or just wait . If she wants a boy to open the door for her she will ask him to do so then it's up to him what his next step will be.

It has nothing to do with respect and everything to do with the way things are in this day and age.

 

[Swimnoid]

Hey, basically we are just talking about common courtesy that us "older" folks were brought up by. If it had been me as a teen, I would have been in BIG trouble with my parents if I didnt give up my seat to someone in need whether we had all been in the parks or not.

I have worked with families over the last 30 years and from my experience those same common courtesies are not being taught, at least not to the same extent. Its a lot more ME ME ME now.

 

[David Johnson]

Hey, basically we are just talking about common courtesy that us "older" folks were brought up by. If it had been me as a teen, I would have been in BIG trouble with my parents if I didnt give up my seat to someone in need whether we had all been in the parks or not.

I have worked with families over the last 30 years and from my experience those same common courtesies are not being taught, at least not to the same extent. Its a lot more ME ME ME now.

And I'm sure you would have had to get the switch off the tree and proceeed out to the woodshed to accept your punishment. This is a different day and age and I could agree that people could be more courteous to others but we have to adjust.

 

[greytmom]

Wow, this is sad. I agree wholeheartedly with Stacktester and others on this thread. Wondering where the parents are of the kids that are so disrespectful towards elders?? There right here on this thread.