Frozen Ever after ride.................something I just read...........

[dkrauss]

I just read a rumor on the another site that the Frozen Ever after ride will be a Tier 1 FP+ ride with Mission Space going to Tier 2. So this would mean.............Soar'in, Test Track, and Frozen are all Tier 1. You can only pick 1..............

Is this a good thing?

Doug

 

[hiroMYhero]

Mission Space returns to Tier 2 on the day that Soarin' reopens ~ that's confirmed.

A combination of rope drop, FP, and Standby will have to be used, or, more than one morning in Epcot.

 

[HopperFan]

Just about every thread on here that has been this discussion has the majority of folks believing that Tier 1 will include Soarin', Test Track, Frozen Ever After and Anna & Elsa plus some believe Illuminations will stay. No surprise Mission would drop to Tier 2.

While Anna & Elsa may seem not worthy - they are still popular and that should rise considerably as folks will want to see their Sommerhaus and potentially the new clothes! I don't care about them but want to see the house.

 

[JimmyV]

And what about the meet and greet? Will that also be a 1? Or are they bundling the ride with the meet and greet where first you ride and then you meet, as a single package deal? It is hard to imagine that they will make parents choose between the ride and the meet-and-greet has their sole Tier 1 attraction. It is also difficult to believe that they would expect people to use up two of their three Fast Passes on Frozen experiences.

 

[bcrook]

I just read a rumor on the another site that the Frozen Ever after ride will be a Tier 1 FP+ ride with Mission Space going to Tier 2. So this would mean.............Soar'in, Test Track, and Frozen are all Tier 1. You can only pick 1..............

Is this a good thing?

Doug

I don't think there is a way around it. With Maelstrom, test track, and the third screen of Soarin, Epcot still doesn't even come close to having one tier 1 ride for everyone coming into the park. With an average attendance of 37000 and the tier 1 rides only accommodating about 33000 people - that's a lot of people going without.

If maelstrom or test track was a tier 2, then about 7000 people would be thrilled but 11,000 people wouldn't get any of the big three.

 

[bcrook]

And what about the meet and greet? Will that also be a 1? Or are they bundling the ride with the meet and greet where first you ride and then you meet, as a single package deal? It is hard to imagine that they will make parents choose between the ride and the meet-and-greet has their sole Tier 1 attraction. It is also difficult to believe that they would expect people to use up two of their three Fast Passes on Frozen experiences.

That is a good question. Any idea on the capacity of a meet and greet? 2000-3000 a day. More?

 

[Chucky!]

I would imagine the meet and greet would have to be separate to the ride, the difference in capacity would be too great.

 

[JimmyV]

That is a good question. Any idea on the capacity of a meet and greet? 2000-3000 a day. More?

Much larger with much greater capacity than anything we have seen before. 13,000 Sq Ft according to Theme Park Tourist. Google this article to see site plans:
"3 Things We'd Like to Know About Epcot's SECOND Confirmed Frozen Attraction"

 

[bcrook]

Much larger with much greater capacity than anything we have seen before. 13,000 Sq Ft according to Theme Park Tourist.

What happens when it loses popularity and can't sustain that?

Turn it in to a seasonal staging area for food and wine?

Interesting.

 

[JimmyV]

What happens when it loses popularity and can't sustain that?

Turn it in to a seasonal staging area for food and wine?

Interesting.

My daughter wondered the same thing when we were there in April. She asked why they would convert an entire Pavilion in Epcot over to a movie that came out several years ago and is losing popularity with each passing year. While there is no doubt that it will remain popular for the near-term, it is difficult to imagine that it will be as popular in 5 years or 10 years or 15 years. Given the slow pace at which things change at Disney World, there will quickly become a time when this conversion has outlasted its usefulness. Unless of course they intend to make this a franchise with movies coming out every other year for the next 20 years.

 

[bcrook]

My daughter wondered the same thing when we were there in April. She asked why they would convert an entire Pavilion in Epcot over to a movie that came out several years ago and is losing popularity with each passing year. While there is no doubt that it will remain popular for the near-term, it is difficult to imagine that it will be as popular in 5 years or 10 years or 15 years. Given the slow pace at which things change at Disney World, there will quickly become a time when this conversion has outlasted its usefulness. Unless of course they intend to make this a franchise with movies coming out every other year for the next 20 years.

Not just a pavilion, they absorbed the adjacent lot that could have housed another country. So in essence, it is a double lot pavilion.

 

[minnie mum]

The pavilion is big, but it holds more than just the girls. There will be 3 meeting rooms, the gift shop, and bathrooms. My guess is that the rest of the space is all queues. Even with 3 meeting rooms, the throughput for this probably won't equal the ride's.

I couldn't care less about the M&Gs. I want to see what they did with the bathrooms. If they can turn Rapunzel's toilets into a work of art, the least they can do is something as fabulous in Froway. As long as the seats aren't frozen.

 

[bcrook]

The pavilion is big, but it holds more than just the girls. There will be 3 meeting rooms, the gift shop, and bathrooms. My guess is that the rest of the space is all queues. Even with 3 meeting rooms, the throughput for this probably won't equal the ride's.

I couldn't care less about the M&Gs. I want to see what they did with the bathrooms. If they can turn Rapunzel's toilets into a work of art, the least they can do is something as fabulous in Froway. As long as the seats aren't frozen.

 

[mom2rtk]

Just about every thread on here that has been this discussion has the majority of folks believing that Tier 1 will include Soarin', Test Track, Frozen Ever After and Anna & Elsa plus some believe Illuminations will stay. No surprise Mission would drop to Tier 2.

While Anna & Elsa may seem not worthy - they are still popular and that should rise considerably as folks will want to see their Sommerhaus and potentially the new clothes! I don't care about them but want to see the house.

I believe Berlioz noted on another thread that A/E would not be in new costumes.

 

[mom2rtk]

And what about the meet and greet? Will that also be a 1? Or are they bundling the ride with the meet and greet where first you ride and then you meet, as a single package deal? It is hard to imagine that they will make parents choose between the ride and the meet-and-greet has their sole Tier 1 attraction. It is also difficult to believe that they would expect people to use up two of their three Fast Passes on Frozen experiences.

I absolutely believe they will make parents choose between the 2 for their sole Tier 1 FP. They have so little capacity for FP in that park, I can't imagine it any other way.

 

[mom2rtk]

As long as the seats aren't frozen.

In the summer, that might actually be worthy of an up charge.

 

[slbgnb]

There will be 3 meeting rooms

Do you mean there will be 3 meet & greets in the sommerhaus? If so, who else will be there?

 

[mom2rtk]

Do you mean there will be 3 meet & greets in the sommerhaus? If so, who else will be there?

Just A/E. It's why the lines this time at Epcot will be shorter than they were last time they were in Epcot.

 

[slbgnb]

Just A/E

There will be 3 A/E's meeting in 3 separate rooms?

 

[mom2rtk]

There will be 3 A/E's meeting in 3 separate rooms?

When they are inclined to staff for it.

Let's just say that the wait times didn't go down when they moved to the MK because of FP.