Freshman "Funds"

My partner and I have a 19 y/o foster son. We send him $500 at the first of every month.

We also visit him at school twice a month for a "good" dinner out and then do a TP/paper towel/laundry deterg./ etc. run.

He gets good grades and is an awesome young man. Anything we can do to make his life easier gives us such great satisfaction:goodvibes
 
Fair enough. If you think your children are capable of supporting themselves at age 18 with the education they have received by that time, then obviously that is what works best for your family.

If I sent my children out into the world at age 18 and made them pay their own way for whatever came next, I would feel I had failed as a parent.

I agree with you 100%.

With age, they will learn. With every passing year, they understand that they need to scrimp and save. But I never want the child I love to be pre-occupied with bills as an 18 or 19 year old.

I want them to focus on school and school alone. As long as the grades are excellent, I will be there to pick up the rest of the burden:thumbsup2
 
I spend about 70 every two weeks on groceries as a college student.


Edit: I didn't see the word "given". I work so I pay for my own food just because I don't want to have to ask my mom. She would give it to me with no hesitation. But if she gave me 550+ a month for food, no doubt I would be eating fillet mignon for dinner every night :) sheesh. 600 is more than my rent for my apartment. And more than a 3 meal a week meal plan also at my school.

My mom just brought me a crock pot. I freeze my meals out for the week, and in the mornings throw them in the pot while I'm in classes and at work so when I get home there is a hot fresh meal ready. Maybe he can do something similar?

Wow! If I was your mother I would be very proud of you. Seems like you know what you are doing. Good for you and good luck with school!:thumbsup2
 

So because YOU partied and threw away an oppotunity-ALL other kids do the same???
We helped our kids....and one who had unbelieable expensive (art supplies) and late, late night computer graphic work-lived at home because he had no time to work

Parents with this unrealistic attitude of "Junior' having to struggle to succeed-make me laugh:rotfl2:

He is now employed at a successful design firm and has done projects for Fortune 500 companies(Proctor & gamble, Frito Lay, Oreck, Budweiser)-right now working on a Coke product.:)

Where did I say that all other kids will do the same? I'm talking about my and my dh's experiences and how they relate to how we feel about OUR KIDS.
 
Swan4Me said:
So you had $5 A DAY"?????? For food??? What year was this?

This is now. I'm still in school.I go grocery shopping every two weeks when I get paid. I get my meats, fish, fruit and vegetables and some snacks and juices. That lasts me for two weeks until I go again. I cook at home, I don't eat out often. It's in my budget, I just don't do it often. Why do you think it's 5 dollars a day? That's why I don't get how people parents are giving them 500 for food. 500 would last me a looonnnggg while.
 
tink20 said:
Wow! If I was your mother I would be very proud of you. Seems like you know what you are doing. Good for you and good luck with school!:thumbsup2

Thanks :) I'm trying.
 
This is now. I'm still in school.I go grocery shopping every two weeks when I get paid. I get my meats, fish, fruit and vegetables and some snacks and juices. That lasts me for two weeks until I go again. I cook at home, I don't eat out often. It's in my budget, I just don't do it often. Why do you think it's 5 dollars a day? That's why I don't get how people parents are giving them 500 for food. 500 would last me a looonnnggg while.

$70 every two weeks = $5 per day for food.
 
Echoing what was said earlier, I don't think it's reasonable to expect a college student to eat for the same price a frugal housewife can feed her family:

- We moms have spent years honing our cheapness-skills. I know that today I am a much smarter shopper than I was at 18, 19, 20.
- It's more expensive to cook for just one person. For example, you use half a bell pepper . . . and the remainder may go bad before you want it. A family would've gobbled up the whole thing. Multiply that times all your cooking, and it equals real money.
- Our kitchens are already stocked with cooking oils, spices, condiments, flour and sugar. Replenishing those things doesn't cost nearly as much as starting from scratch; after all, they don't all run out at the same time.
- Typical college students don't cook with the same skills we do; thus, they're likely to rely upon convenience foods.
- Many students don't have their own cars, and -- even if they do -- learning the best prices to shop isn't something they can pick up in a week or two. For example, I always buy peanut butter in the HUGE containers at Walmart; they're much cheaper. But I buy my spices at the health food store. I buy my beef from a co-op. I'm always finding new places to buy food, but in college almost everything I bought came from the grocery store -- it was what I knew back then.
- I own crock pots, a pressure cooker, a stove and any number of other things that allow me great freedom in cooking whatever I want. These things let me cook lots of cheap foods as well. In contrast, my college daughter owns one frying pan, one cook pot with lid, one small casserole dish, and a pizza pan. She'll cook a bit on weekends, but she'll have to use a community kitchen in the dorm -- it's not reasonable to think she can regularly cook inexpensive meals in such a situation.

Yes, you can give examples of how to overcome these problems (freezing individual portions, etc.), but the typical college student isn't going to master those homemaking skills AT THE SAME TIME as learning to live independently, adjusting to college and a new environment, and while working and studying. Yes, I value homemaking skills, but as my daughter heads out to college in two weeks, those aren't the things I'm pushing her hard to learn in the next few years.

If I were going to give my daughter food money during college, I think I'd make it $100/week. That's enough that she'd have to scrimp a bit, but she'd be able to make it.


Other off-shoot topics:

Paying your student's way /not paying your student's way may have some influence on how seriously he takes his studies . . . but how you've raised him for the last 18 years has much, much more influence. This one factor isn't a one-shot proof-positive of whether a student will do well in college. I've talked to my daughter about searching for BALANCE. I don't expect her to sit in her room studying her Chemistry book every Saturday night -- but I do expect her to put in enough hours with that $366 book to pass the class. I expect she'll finish her four years having put in lots of time studying . . . but also plenty of time hanging out with friends, going skiing, going to movies, even drinking a bit -- but in safe circumstances.

We have one of those work-your-way-through schools in my state. Being a poor kid, I was very excited when I learned about it. It didn't take me long to figure out that it was not a well-respected school. I would never, ever recommend it to my kids.

nchulka, I am very conservative -- but you're just off-base in numerous ways. I'm definitely hearing anger, anti-social behavior, maybe even agoraphobia in your posts. Based on just this thread, you really don't come off sounding like a happy person. Following the crowd isn't always the wrong choice, especially when it comes to things like bike helmets. Yeah, we grew up without such things . . . but my high school class was considered "exceptionally lucky" because only one of our classmates (out of 130 or so) died. In contrast, my brothers' classes each lost 4-5 kids. Our kids have to live in today's world; some pressures have increased, while other things are easier/better.

In my opinion, the best moms are the ones who spend plenty of time with the kids in the pool . . . but also carve out time for themselves (to read that book). Makes me think about how hard my husband and I worked to go on EVERY school field trip when our kids were young (and they went on one about every third week), then one day the time came when neither of us could go. Just couldn't happen. So our oldest went on an all-day field trip to our state capital by herself. She came home a little taller, declaring, "I went to Raleigh all by myself." We definitely took note that day and realized that we needed to balance involvement with chances to do things independently.

Can an 18-year old support himself? I say yes, but he probably can't do it well. If he's trying to attend college AND support himself, he's probably going to go into debt to do it. We intend to help our children through college so that they can start their professional lives without "being in the hole" already. If we help them, they're more likely to graduate on time, which means they can start working in a better-paying job sooner, start saving for retirement sooner. The totally on-his-own 18-year old will spin his wheels in dead-end, minimum wage jobs for years. My kid will work hard in college, spend some time in those minimum wage jobs, but in her early 20s will begin to work in a professional job. It looks remarkably like common sense to me.
 
This is now. I'm still in school.I go grocery shopping every two weeks when I get paid. I get my meats, fish, fruit and vegetables and some snacks and juices. That lasts me for two weeks until I go again. I cook at home, I don't eat out often. It's in my budget, I just don't do it often. Why do you think it's 5 dollars a day? That's why I don't get how people parents are giving them 500 for food. 500 would last me a looonnnggg while.

I hope you aren't a math major.
I also bet you are a thin young woman, and not a growing 18-19 yr old young man who would not be filled up with a salad and 1/2 a chicken breast.

More like 1/2 a box of cereal at a time. (which is at least $3 a box)
$35 a week does not buy much food, and even less in certain parts of this country. Soup, regular canned soup was $2 and up, a can in the stores near my DD's campus.
 
Tink-aholic said:
$70 every two weeks = $5 per day for food.

So when you go grocery shopping, and spend whatever amount of money you spend, you divide it in your head as ___ amount per day? I buy food, I eat breakfast, lunch and dinner, so yes, 3 meals a day by spending 70 every two weeks. I don't think of terms as 5 dollars a day. even if my breakfast is a quick granola and some yogurt on the way to class. And I cook big dinners, enough for me to eat for lunch while I'm at work the next day. I'm not struggling or eating Ramen noodles every day.
 
The "why do you think it's $5 per day" could have been rhetorical?
 
This is now. I'm still in school.I go grocery shopping every two weeks when I get paid. I get my meats, fish, fruit and vegetables and some snacks and juices. That lasts me for two weeks until I go again. I cook at home, I don't eat out often. It's in my budget, I just don't do it often. Why do you think it's 5 dollars a day? That's why I don't get how people parents are giving them 500 for food. 500 would last me a looonnnggg while.

So I am guessing MATH isn't your major?;)
YOU said you spend $70 every two weeks for food
70 divided by 14 ( there are 14 days in two weeks, BTW) = $5 a day for food

Honestly , most college kids don't use crock pots
So let's say $1 breakfast....granola bar and milk
$2 lunch....can soup
$3 dinner.... A value meal at Wendy's

Not healthy & high in sodium
 
$600 a month for food? Man, that student has a great beer and pizza fund!!

Jim
 
That's why I don't get how people parents are giving them 500 for food. 500 would last me a looonnnggg while.

$500 also covers gas money (although he drives very little). It covers a new shirt here and there. It covers a snack or a night out with friends. It covers an occasional coffee not brewed at his tiny apartment.


I don't think turning an 18 year old loose with $37.50 a week is fair or doable. If you were my child, I would give you more money:flower3:
 
Hannathy said:
I hope you aren't a math major.
I also bet you are a thin young woman, and not a growing 18-19 yr old young man who would not be filled up with a salad and 1/2 a chicken breast.

More like 1/2 a box of cereal at a time. (which is at least $3 a box)
$35 a week does not buy much food, and even less in certain parts of this country. Soup, regular canned soup was $2 and up, a can in the stores near my DD's campus.

No I'm not a math major ma'am. All I did was answer the question. Yes, I am thin, so what fills me wont fill a 19 year old guy. I get that part. But if I was spending 500 on groceries every month, I would probably be eating lobster tails right now. OP knows her son best and how much he eats. Y'all know your children best and what is good for your families. What's 140 a month for one person, may take 400 to feed another. Doesn't take a math genius to figure that out.
 
I guess I'm still confused. Someone going away to college SHOULD know how to take care of themselves in a reasonable way. They SHOULD know how to cook an inexpensive, nutritious meal. As parents, we've had 18 years to teach them these things, and if we haven't, it's OUR failure, not theirs. How sad. My kids have already begun making their own meals (they are 12), and doing their own laundry. We talk about good/not good food choices. We cook together. We shop together. They know what a "good" value is in food, and what is not. By 18, they better be able to plan a week's worth of meals for themselves for $100 (in today's money) or I will consider myself a major failure.

It's just silly, to me, to say they can get out of college still not doing those things because they need to devote themselves to their studies. Realistically, it does not take more than 40 hours a week to go to class, and study for said classes (I'm more than willing to bet that the average kid spends way less than this, actually). That leaves plenty of time...at least as much as the average working adult has...to take care of the basics of shopping, meal preparation, etc. And, plenty of time to also have fun.
 
Here it goes....

I am against drinking, drugs, smoking

I am against pre-marital sex, adultery, and homosexuality

I am for SAHMs :)


!

Let me burst your C of O cherry. I graduated from dear old C of O and you cannot guarantee they will not be exposed to other ideas and situations there. For the record:

I drank at C of O. I am not really a smoker or druggie but believe me it was available.

I had SEX at C of O and I was certainly not alone. The dorms are closed to the opposite sex so everyone just got creative. You never knew what you might see off on some more secluded paths on campus. Oh and those cheap $29/night hotel rooms in Branson during off season were fabulous. Many, many, many girls got pregnant.

I am against adultery but not homosexuality. I think people are born gay and they should be able to marry and have all other civil rights that I have.

I am a working Mom as are the vast majority of the women I went to C of O with.

And probably worst of all......I voted Democrat! :lmao:



Plus it's a very poorly regarded school with very few successful alumni. I get that not everybody should go to Harvard, but to set mediocrity as your goal seems sad to .

I will take exception to this. It is not Harvard but many of us have received a good education from C of O. I have a B.S. in math and believe me I worked very hard for it and my degree is in no way inferior. I had a 30 on my ACT so it is not like I did not have other options - most of the students are there because they simply could not afford to go elsewhere. I am a database administrator for a large regional insurance company and my DH is a chemist with our state university. I have many friends who have been very successful in their careers after C of O. So save your speech about mediocrity.....
 
Social Worker Sue said:
$500 also covers gas money (although he drives very little). It covers a new shirt here and there. It covers a snack or a night out with friends. It covers an occasional coffee not brewed at his tiny apartment.

I don't think turning an 18 year old loose with $37.50 a week is fair or doable. If you were my child, I would give you more money:flower3:

See. I was thinking 500 was strictly food. Because I know if I had 500, for "food". Most of it wouldn't be spent on food....lol. My mom gives me extra money when I ask. She tries to give me money and I kindly decline. I work a fairly good job that works around my school schedule. I pay rent, food, gas and my fun stuff (clothes, eating out, movies, etc) I say $70 because after going grocery shopping this is what I roughly spend and eat until I'm full. But as another poster pointed out, what will feed one, will probably cost more for another :)

I'm okay guys. I don't think I have a high sodium diet, I'm healthy, and I don't go hungry :) I've talked to a few friends about this today and even they said they couldn't imagine spending that much on food. Every town is different :)
 
This is kind of off topic, but lobster prices are crazy low this year. In Newfoundland, average market price is around US $5.70/pound right now. (source: http://www.ffaw.nf.ca/?Content=Fish_Prices/Lobster/Lobster_Prices_2012_NL)

Farmers' markets vary a lot. There are the upscale ones where the prices are higher than the supermarkets, but the produce is perfect... no spots, carefully washed, the very best of its type. Then there are the ones where the farmers sell whatever's in season out of the back of a truck, for whatever they can get for it.

Wow, wish I was back there, although crab was $2.99 a pound in January.

Farmers markets here are all out of the back of the truck, all better produce than the store, for less. There is one every Sunday across from where I work.......everything is so much for $1. 4 avocados for $1 ($1.25 in the store).......6 ears of corn for $1.
 


Disney Vacation Planning. Free. Done for You.
Our Authorized Disney Vacation Planners are here to provide personalized, expert advice, answer every question, and uncover the best discounts. Let Dreams Unlimited Travel take care of all the details, so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy a stress-free vacation.
Start Your Disney Vacation
Disney EarMarked Producer






DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest DIS Tiktok DIS Twitter

Add as a preferred source on Google

Back
Top Bottom