FP + What we know and what we want to know

[andyman8]

What I don't understand is why people are saying that this move favors the non-planner. If someone is not willing to make a dining reservation (something Disney touts as "important"), I highly doubt they'll even think to make a ride reservation. I honestly think the move favors the other end of the pack (cough cough Len Testa) who plans out an order of attractions and pinpoint at exactly what time he or she will do it.

And I wouldn't necessarily call the people who do not go to rope drop lazy. Remember, you're on vacation. I much rather sleep in (something that I don't do when I'm at home during the work week) than walk on Space Mountain when I'm half asleep. I prefer to stay at the parks later into the evening. It's all a matter of personal preference.

 

[keaster]

Again, this whole system gives RD no value at all. The old system worked fine, Disney is just catering to the lazy people who don't get up in time for RD and complain that there are no TSM FPs available.

Can we please not call people who don't get to the park for rope drop lazy? I commented on this on another thread (or it might have been earlier in this one!)

My DH gets up every day at 5am for a 12 hour work day, I don't refer to him as "lazy" when he wants to sleep until 8am while on vacation

 

[labattblue]

I am opposed to FP+. It is ADR's on steriods, and I am not a fan of ADR's. I am hoping it is a major failure.

 

[mom2rtk]

So all this talk about group touring as me thinking....... not about the groups that want to tour together, but the opposite. What about the big groups who THOUGHT they wanted to do everything together.......... but by the end of their trip need some serious SPACE from the group they are traveling with.
I mean.... things CHANGE in the course of a trip. Oh, and don't ask how I know this!

 

[emmababy]

Is this bracelet detachable? The last thing I want to wear in 100 degree weather is a bracelet strapped to my arm or in all my pictures!

 

[SRUAlmn]

Is this bracelet detachable? The last thing I want to wear in 100 degree weather is a bracelet strapped to my arm or in all my pictures!

That was my first thought, too. I'm a teacher, so we only ever go in the summer, and I usually can't even stand to wear my watch, let alone a giant dog collar bracelet! It would have to be detachable, because you'd have to take it off to shower, right??? Oh, I hope so!

 

[SRUAlmn]

Can we please not call people who don't get to the park for rope drop lazy? I commented on this on another thread (or it might have been earlier in this one!)

My DH gets up every day at 5am for a 12 hour work day, I don't refer to him as "lazy" when he wants to sleep until 8am while on vacation

Thank you I also get up at 5am every day and work 10 hour days. I "sleep in" on vacation, which is normally about 7:00 or 7:30, but still not early enough to get ready, get the bus, and make it for rope drop.

 

[ryalluvdiz]

It looks detachable in the photos, but honestly, they have waterproof ones for the six flags water parks that do the same sort of thing, so i guess you could swim with them on.

 

[Sammie]

They are adjustable, waterproof, detachable, light weight and do not have to be worn to work.

 

[SRUAlmn]

They are adjustable, waterproof, detachable, light weight and do not have to be worn to work.

I read this twice before I realized you meant work (function,) not work (job) I thought you were making a joke and saying you wouldn't have to wear them for the rest of your life

 

[Sammie]

I read this twice before I realized you meant work (function,) not work (job) I thought you were making a joke and saying you wouldn't have to wear them for the rest of your life

Yes, as in you can take it off, put it on your bag, in pocket and still use it. It does not have to be on your wrist to function.

 

[Majik9]

So this is what it looks like when a person is under your accoutn and you can "assign" them things:

Currently if you try to assign them anything it wont "stick" and you also can't do so between full-blown accounts either. It just forgets the choice, say for dining, immediately after you do it. Dining Reservations ask for each person but then promptly forgets who you chose other than the primary. On a full blown account this little bar indicating what they have reserved doesn't appear presently either - it's under My Profile - Family and Friends - Edit (whichever account you've added) in the pseudo-accounts.

But as you can see there's the all important "Virtual Ticket." APs, people with reservations, etc.. will have a ticket assigned to them. That will allow the FP+ to be assigned at 60 days or less.

My hotel and ADR's for my family "stick" if you will.
FYI

 

[bcrook]

Is there any indication that there will be charge for missed FP+ attractions? If they do institute that, like they did for dining, it will be the end of Disney trips for my family. I travel with a large and highly unpredictable group of people, if they decide to stop and have a few drinks at the ESPN club, then a Soarin' FP+ is not going to convince them to leave, even if there is a surcharge for missed reservations.

We have already stopped dining at signature restaurants because of this, I don't want rides and fireworks to be phased out of our vacations as well!

There is absolutely no talk of that. I wouldn't worry about that one.

 

[doconeill]

Is there any indication that there will be charge for missed FP+ attractions? If they do institute that, like they did for dining, it will be the end of Disney trips for my family. I travel with a large and highly unpredictable group of people, if they decide to stop and have a few drinks at the ESPN club, then a Soarin' FP+ is not going to convince them to leave, even if there is a surcharge for missed reservations.

We have already stopped dining at signature restaurants because of this, I don't want rides and fireworks to be phased out of our vacations as well!

I really, really don't think they will charge money.

At worst, you lose the FP+ for that day.

 

[emmababy]

Thanks! I wonder why a bracelet and not the card?

Also, what is the website? You all seem to know a ton and how to link everyone. I am a dvc member and can't find anything!

I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, nt having to sprint to soarin or TSM first thing to be able to ride will be great! Per ordering food could be a perk.

Only getting 3 fast passes and not being able to use at different parks on the same day is a bummer. At MK, there are so many rides to limit to just 3. I have no clue how to choose!

 

[Laketravis]

So all this talk about group touring as me thinking....... not about the groups that want to tour together, but the opposite. What about the big groups who THOUGHT they wanted to do everything together.......... but by the end of their trip need some serious SPACE from the group they are traveling with.
I mean.... things CHANGE in the course of a trip. Oh, and don't ask how I know this!

Will be interesting to see what affect this has on large tour groups.

 

[gcoolie]

Can we please not call people who don't get to the park for rope drop lazy? I commented on this on another thread (or it might have been earlier in this one!)

My DH gets up every day at 5am for a 12 hour work day, I don't refer to him as "lazy" when he wants to sleep until 8am while on vacation

Thank you. We traditionally were never RD people, preferring to relax in the morning and then stay in the parks as late as possible. Vacation, right? In 2011, we missed out on TSM and Soarin because FP was gone by the time we got to those parks and we are unwilling to stand in any line for two hours. This year, we decided to stop being "lazy" and get there at opening. That worked just fine and we rode everything, but still would rather have taken it slow in the morning.

However, what I have not done the last couple of trips was make any ADRs. I was worried that FP times wouldn't work out with the set dining times. If I know ahead when my FP times are, I will feel more free to make ADRs. Better for Disney, right?

Just a thought. I don't feel strongly about the whole thing one way or the other. I am enjoying this discussion and the in-depth analysis! I am really looking forward to trip reports once this up and running.

 

[tessa67]

I don't want this to be a generalization but I feel for the grandmas and grandpas who bring their grand kids. If we are struggling to understand this how will they ever figure it out?

(I know there are some very tech savvy g-ma/g-pa out there, but many are not.)

 

[bigAWL]

Just to summarize what I think WDW is doing with this whole FP+/MyMagic+ thing.

I have a couple comments about this summary...

This information, along with park tickets, dining plan, PhotoPass pictures, and a charge card will be stored on a guest's MagicBand.

Careful about the wording here. There should only be an ID number of some sort stored on the MagicBand. Any device reading the band would have to also have access to the Disney database in order to reconcile that ID number to the personal information you list. Report your wristband lost, and it can easily be rendered useless to anyone who finds it.

First of all, I'm left to assume that you cannot change or cancel your reservation after you've checked-in online 60 days in advance but what if Uncle Lou suddenly dies and you have to cancel even if you've purchased trip insurance? One is left to assume you won't get your money back if you've checked-in.

Are you talking about room reservation and not getting a refund after checking in at 60 days? I suppose it would depend on the terms of your hotel room reservation. I'm a DVC owner, and my terms say if I cancel my room more than 30 days in advance, my points will go back into my account (ie. nothing is lost). Online Check-in should in no way override those terms and conditions.

I understand there are separate Online Check-in Terms and Conditions. I can't find them. Anyone have a copy of those?

 

[fflmaster]

For those that know, is it better to setup my disney experience to invite my family or to simply just setup the accounts to say I manage this account?

I am the planner of the whole group and would be the person setting up the adrs and FP+

Also, what do you do for those that use the same email account.

For example my father and mother don't even use email. How do I set them up?