FP+ "Problems" - I Just Don't Get It

[Didi8367]

OP, I have to say that I had a similar experience. I am a 100% WDW newbie, too. Going for the very first time (well, I went when I was 2, but I have no memory of it).with a party of 9 people from 12/27-1/3, so . . . yeah . . . easily the busiest week of the year.

And, yet, last night, I got 100% of every FP+ reservation I wanted--including A&E and 7DMT. For ALL 9 people. On the first try. At all my "first choice" times. And there was plenty of availability. The only one even remotely "limited" was A&E and the earliest the were available (for a block of 9 people, mind you) was 11:40. But, after that point, there was a ton of choice.

I was very, very nervous going in because of all the negative stuff I'd read here, but I have to say, it couldn't have gone more smoothly.

 

[DisneyKidds]

I already Elsa-fied myself!

 

[DisneyKidds]

OP, I have to say that I totally agree. I am a 100% WDW newbie, too. Going for the very first time (well, I went when I was 2, but I have no memory of it).with a party of 9 people from 12/27-1/3, so . . . yeah . . . easily the busiest week of the year. And, yet, last night, I got 100% of every FP+ reservation I wanted--including A&E and 7DMT. For ALL 9 people. On the first try. At all my "first choice" times. And there was plenty of availability. The only one even remotely "limited" was A&E and the earliest the were available (for a block of 9 people, mind you) was 11:40. But, after that point, there was a ton of choice. I was very, very nervous going in because of all the negative stuff I'd read here, but I have to say, it couldn't have gone more smoothly.

Liar!

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

So, I'm thinking luck has nothing to do with it, and the 'problems' are either exaggerated or fabricated. How else do you explain it? Discuss amongst yourselves.......

I never said liar. I said fabricate. Two very different words, actually.

Yes, both are meant to deceive. However, a lie is a blatant false statement (someone saying they had a problem they really didn't have - which I don't think anyone here does), while fabricate means to invent or concoct something (by taking a real event and turning into a bigger problem than it is - which I think does happen).

Yes, there is a difference, but you didn't seem to know that when you first posted. In fact, you seemed to indicate that exaggerated and fabricated are two complete and totally different things.

So, yes, someone needs a dictionary. But it is the OP, not those of us that have read the post.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Does FP+ availability have anything to do with when most planners will go to the parks? I've noticed that I have had a relatively easy time scheduling my ADRs and FP+ (I got everything I wanted) and I'm going the week after Christmas (considered to be THE busiest time of the year). Is this because most of the planners don't go during this time? And during the dates that they do, most of the other planners are more likely to go and therefore making it harder to get ADRs and FP+?

The hypotheses stated in this thread have said that because of increased park hours, much more ride time = more capacity. With the 3 per guest limit, even though guest capacity has also increased, net result is that your chances are much improved in getting what you want at some point during your visit on a specific day.

(I was confused on how that would work, but another poster took the time to explain and it makes sense.)

 

[DisneyKidds]

Yes, there is a difference, but you didn't seem to know that when you first posted.......

Ummm...., no. Fabricate was carefully, knowingly chosen. Exaggerate and Fabricate are not the same thing, either.

 

[Angel Ariel]

The hypotheses stated in this thread have said that because of increased park hours, much more ride time = more capacity. With the 3 per guest limit, even though guest capacity has also increased, net result is that your chances are much improved in getting what you want at some point during your visit on a specific day.

(I was confused on how that would work, but another poster took the time to explain and it makes sense.)

:thumbsup:

It doesn't take as many people for fp+ to run out when the park is only open from 9am-7pm. Of course there is going to be more fp+ availability when the park is open from 8am-1am.

As others have said, the huge uptick in attendance for christmas week is largely from offsite guests, who can't book fp+ til 30 days. So it makes total sense that similar #s of onsite guests + 6 more hours of park time = better fp+ availability for the hottest attractions at 60 days.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I never said liar. I said fabricate. Two very different words, actually.

Yes, both are meant to deceive. However, a lie is a blatant false statement (someone saying they had a problem they really didn't have - which I don't think anyone here does), while fabricate means to invent or concoct something (by taking a real event and turning into a bigger problem than it is - which I think does happen).

One is a noun and one is a verb.

A liar fabricates statements.

Fabrications are blatantly false.

A synonym of fabricate is lie.

This is not rocket science.

What you are describing is the definition of exaggerate. Feel free to google the definition.


And btw--my brain comes up with the wrong words sometimes. Doesn't mean I am dumb or anything--it is a simple mistake. I advise to stop digging your hole and admit your error instead of insisting the word you used means something Quite different from what it was. A Mea culpa would do you good.

 

[Clawdya]

The hypotheses stated in this thread have said that because of increased park hours, much more ride time = more capacity. With the 3 per guest limit, even though guest capacity has also increased, net result is that your chances are much improved in getting what you want at some point during your visit on a specific day.

(I was confused on how that would work, but another poster took the time to explain and it makes sense.)

I must have missed that but it makes sense.

 

[DisneyKidds]

In addition to Elsa-fying myself, a already Mea Cupla'd.......even though you are wrong.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Ummm...., no. Fabricate was carefully, knowingly chosen. Exaggerate and Fabricate are not the same thing, either.

Please get a dictionary and a thesaurus. You are really making yourself look foolish.

And yes, in my post above, I did verify the definitions of fabricate and exaggerate to prove that you were indeed incorrect.

You carefully and knowingly chose a word and if this was a Vocabulary test, you would have epicly failed.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

In addition to Elsa-fying myself, a already Mea Cupla'd.......even though you are wrong.

Get. A. Dictionary.

Someone is wrong. But it isn't me.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Everybody grab their Websters...

Maybe our Webster's has a fabricated glitch that we are too incompetent to discover.

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

And btw--my brain comes up with the wrong words sometimes. Doesn't mean I am dumb or anything--it is a simple mistake. I advise to stop digging your hole and admit your error instead of insisting the word you used means something Quite different from what it was. A Mea culpa would do you good.

But the entire thread was meant to So, I'm pretty sure that a mea culpa won't be forthcoming.

What is really funny? I actually like the new system. No more sprinting across the park. But that doesn't mean it doesn't have problems. Like having to stay up until midnight or waking up at the crack of dawn.

 

[redsbe]

I'm pretty much a FP+ supporter, but your experience is not typical.

Getting SDMT and A&E during the busiest week of the year is indeed absolute luck. I am going two weeks earlier when crowd levels are less than half of what you will experience, and I can't get either or TSMM.

As for user experience, how is this a user friendly system.
Log on at midnight
Select one attraction you really want.
Get assigned that attraction at a time you do not want and 2 other attractions you do not want.
Return to start page and change time of first selection after clicking over to another page.
Return to start page to change experience #2 after clicking to another page.
Return to start page to change experience #3 after clicking over to another page.

That is as non-user friendly as any tech I have dealt with in the past decade, and I would be described as a techie.

Again I like the concept of FP+ just not the logistics of it.

I am also going in mid December and had no problem getting rides and attraction I needed and for days and times that worked with my plans, in about 20 minutes on the system. So experience will vary greatly among users, both positive and negative. I do not think that any one experience is illustrative and reflective of thousands of users each day.

 

[DisneyKidds]

Exaggerate - to represent something as being larger, greater, better, or worse than it really is.

Fabricate - invent or concoct something, typically with deceitful intent.

No, not the same. Webster's does not list these words as synonyms.

Not gonna perpetuate this ridiculous tangent beyond this response!

 

[DisneyKidds]

But the entire thread was meant to So, I'm pretty sure that a mea culpa won't be forthcoming.

That would be wrong again, as I did humble myself before the court several pages back. Keep trying though..,.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Exaggerate - to represent something as being larger, greater, better, or worse than it really is.

Fabricate - invent or concoct something, typically with deceitful intent.

No, not the same. Webster's does not list these words as synonyms.

Not gonna perpetuate this ridiculous tangent beyond this response!

I never said liar. I said fabricate. Two very different words, actually.

Yes, both are meant to deceive. However, a lie is a blatant false statement (someone saying they had a problem they really didn't have - which I don't think anyone here does), while fabricate means to invent or concoct something (by taking a real event and turning into a bigger problem than it is - which I think does happen).

You have been BUSTED for fabricated what you said the defintion of fabricating was . Nice try there, buddy.

No need to follow up. Your trail down the rabbit hole is documented.

And LIE is a synonym for fabricate.

 

[BugsDaddy]

I agree with the OP in theory but regardless of the Webster's definition of the words they used, you cannot argue the fact that they were perceived by most as rude and un called for.

I just didn't think we needed yet another thread to debate FP+. There may be glitches with the system but clearly those glitches seem to be getting worked out and it appears that more people are reporting positive experiences using the system than ever before.

All that being said, some have a flair for the dramatic and nothing will probably change that.

 

[DisneyKidds]

You have been BUSTED for fabricated what you said the defintion of fabricating was . Nice try there, buddy. No need to follow up. Your trail down the rabbit hole is documented. And LIE is a synonym for fabricate.

Lisa, you are doing better than Mary! Yes, you busted me on my incorrect paraphrasing of the definition of fabricate. Bigger was a poor choice of words there. Half a Mea Culpa to you.