FP+ Details Are Out!

[faindrops27]

So when will this be up and running for guests? Will fast pass plus be up for my Sept stay.

 

[mesaboy2]

So when will this be up and running for guests? Will fast pass plus be up for my Sept stay.

No one knows, but IMO almost certainly not by September.

 

[doconeill]

So when will this be up and running for guests? Will fast pass plus be up for my Sept stay.

Asked and answered every few pages...

No one knows exactly...probably not even Disney right now.

Tests are underway...will it be up for Sept for everyone? Probably not. For the resort you are at? Maybe.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I know what I will do if I cant get a ride itinerary that I like for our annual week down there....cancel.

note to self, dont tell kids til day 59

 

[PrincessArlena'sDad]

Anyone else hear a response in recent days from Disney Guest Relations? Back a week or so ago when several folks said they were going to contact Disney with pre-feedback about FP+, I wrote an email and included all my contact info. I got an auto-response saying that they had received my email. No further word, which is OK by me. I was just curious to hear if anyone had anything to add from Disney in recent days that might add to our collected "knowledge" about MB and FP+

I sent an email over the weekend, and all I got so far is the auto-response. Anyone care to read the tea leaves on this "silence?"

 

[PrincessArlena'sDad]

Here's a new issue I just thought of, at least I think it's not plagiarized

Inspired by all the rides closed for all/most of my trip (JC, Muppets, SE, Prince Charming RC, Tiki Room - why can't it ever be Stitch and Speedway?):

Most (if not all) of these were announced less than 60 days out, will ride refurbs be consisently/always announced prior to 60 days?

Can you imagine getting TSM, and then less than a month out, finding out your FP+ is cancelled, and there is nothing left but LMA?

Also, can you imagine all the posts like the following that will be on here everyday:
"wdwinfo has TSM down on the date I have my FP+, but disneyworld.com has it open. Should I change it to Star Tours now, or hope wdwinfo is wrong, and hold on to my TSM FP+, but then, if the closure is "ofiicially" announced, I'll probably be stuck with LMA"

 

[bauer1168]

Here's a new issue I just thought of, at least I think it's not plagiarized

Inspired by all the rides closed for all/most of my trip (JC, Muppets, SE, Prince Charming RC, Tiki Room - why can't it ever be Stitch and Speedway?):

Most (if not all) of these were announced less than 60 days out, will ride refurbs be consisently/always announced prior to 60 days?

Can you imagine getting TSM, and then less than a month out, finding out your FP+ is cancelled, and there is nothing left but LMA?

Also, can you imagine all the posts like the following that will be on here everyday:
"wdwinfo has TSM down on the date I have my FP+, but disneyworld.com has it open. Should I change it to Star Tours now, or hope wdwinfo is wrong, and hold on to my TSM FP+, but then, if the closure is "ofiicially" announced, I'll probably be stuck with LMA"

"We are sorry to inform you that Space Mountain will be closed during your vacation. You can can exchange your Space Mountain FP for a 'magical' experience at Carousel Of Progress, where there's always a great, big, beautiful tomorrow, shining at the end of everyday!"

 

[mom2rtk]

Here's a new issue I just thought of, at least I think it's not plagiarized

Inspired by all the rides closed for all/most of my trip (JC, Muppets, SE, Prince Charming RC, Tiki Room - why can't it ever be Stitch and Speedway?):

Most (if not all) of these were announced less than 60 days out, will ride refurbs be consisently/always announced prior to 60 days?

Can you imagine getting TSM, and then less than a month out, finding out your FP+ is cancelled, and there is nothing left but LMA?

Also, can you imagine all the posts like the following that will be on here everyday:
"wdwinfo has TSM down on the date I have my FP+, but disneyworld.com has it open. Should I change it to Star Tours now, or hope wdwinfo is wrong, and hold on to my TSM FP+, but then, if the closure is "ofiicially" announced, I'll probably be stuck with LMA"

That's a really good point. Having a ride down on a given day is certainly a disappointment. But when it means you gave up a spot that could have been used for another headliner (that is now booked) does add another unpleasant wrinkle.

 

[Yellowstonetim]

Feel free to take the negative approach-its great conversation IMO. But for us-the new system crushes the old one, even at worst case.

Amen. Here, have a nice big Dole Whip. I'm gonna love FP+!

I think that the new FP+ will help our family too in some ways. We would be quite happy to get two pre-reserved headliners a day in one park a day. We know what parks we will generally be in on what day by 60 days out. We enjoy a lot of the second-tier rides as well. We don't tour for hours and hours a day. We like to spend time at the resort and of course eating lol.

Anyway, I think the effect it will have on people will definitely depend on how they tour now.

Agreed, I think 9 times out of 10 it will be an improvement!

We're only a "small percentage" when it serves the purpose to say so. We're the "vast majority" when it comes to villainous intent to break the rules, over-use and hoard FP's.

DIS members are numerically a very tiny percentage of annual WDW visitors, however, MANY people beyond DIS do FP running, rope drop running, and maximizing FP's. You can see it when you are at the parks.

I predict that this will be the case for FP+. The majority of the guests will be perfectly satisfied with the limit that is set (and I think it will be adjusted up, probably to 5) and a very small number of guests will be satisfied after adjusting their strategy and a smaller number still will be completely dissatisfied with the limitations.

Again, I agree 100%! It will just take some adjustment, but it will be good.

 

[agavegirl1]

I sent an email over the weekend, and all I got so far is the auto-response. Anyone care to read the tea leaves on this "silence?"

I have not yet received a received a response and I do not want to read the tea leaves on this. I'm too scared of where they may take me.

 

[doconeill]

I sent an email over the weekend, and all I got so far is the auto-response. Anyone care to read the tea leaves on this "silence?"

[Scene: Poor intern sitting at desk, in the dark, late at night...supervisor is in an office nearby, door open]

Intern: Why? Why do they keep asking these questions? We don't even know the answers yet! We're just testing it now!

Supervisor: Another Fastpass+ complaint?

Intern: Yes! They are incessant...always talking about how only three Fastpasses will ruin their vacation, blah, blah, blah...

Supervisor: Just send the canned response, and put it in the Fastpass+ folder. Someone will look at it in the morning.

Intern: OK.

[Intern looks back at screen...highlights the entire Inbox....and clicks Delete.]

Intern: [quietly] Response sent...curse you, DISers...

 

[LisaTC]

[Scene: Poor intern sitting at desk, in the dark, late at night...supervisor is in an office nearby, door open]

Intern: Why? Why do they keep asking these questions? We don't even know the answers yet! We're just testing it now!

Supervisor: Another Fastpass+ complaint?

Intern: Yes! They are incessant...always talking about how only three Fastpasses will ruin their vacation, blah, blah, blah...

Supervisor: Just send the canned response, and put it in the Fastpass+ folder. Someone will look at it in the morning.

Intern: OK.

[Intern looks back at screen...highlights the entire Inbox....and clicks Delete.]

Intern: [quietly] Response sent...curse you, DISers...

 

[whatsarahsaid]

Cross-posting this with the MagicBand thread...

I finally got my post trip survey as a MagicBand tester. Just wanted to pop in and let everyone know I will definitely be communicating some of the concerns that have been expressed here on the Dis if given the opportunity to.

 

[agavegirl1]

Cross-posting this with the MagicBand thread...

I finally got my post trip survey as a MagicBand tester. Just wanted to pop in and let everyone know I will definitely be communicating some of the concerns that have been expressed here on the Dis if given the opportunity to.

Thank you whatsarahsaid! I am so glad they followed up with you!

 

[Planogirl]

I've been picturing Frank and Lisa Newbie grabbing Stitch FP+ because their kids love Stitch. Wouldn't that be a surprise?

 

[Shaden]

I've been picturing Frank and Lisa Newbie grabbing Stitch FP+ because their kids love Stitch. Wouldn't that be a surprise?

Nah, I am SURE that is going to happen.

Its one of the things that does lend weight to the people that argue that there will be lots of FP slots for the headliners, although, I still think a lot of people will flock to those, esp return guests.

A BUNCH of people are going to "waste" FP on absolutely stupid crap they don't need to use FPs on.

So first they will limit them to 3, then a BUNCH will get burned on useless stuff... so maybe there will be plenty of room for us DISers to book our headliners. Maybe even same day (although I still don't think same day FPs in addition to your 3 will be available).

But here is the problem with that, it doesn't really make the system better for the most of us (although those two people who said they only like to go in the evening will benefit) ... because for us it removes flexibility, increases planning needed, and limits our use of FP.

But for the newbies it will be even worse, and where we WILL benefit, by booking the rides that you NEED FP for, we will benefit not because the SYSTEM is good, but because other people are uninformed, and will not be able to navigate the system well.

 

[magicbob]

A BUNCH of people are going to "waste" FP on absolutely stupid crap they don't need to use FPs on.

But for the newbies it will be even worse, and where we WILL benefit, by booking the rides that you NEED FP for, we will benefit not because the SYSTEM is good, but because other people are uninformed, and will not be able to navigate the system well.

How long do you think it will be before we start to see posts here decrying the unfairness of "super users" who know enough not to take a FP for Tomorrowland Transit Authority, Stitch, Carousel of Progress, etc. since Disney doesn't publish it on their website and post signs at the kiosks to ensure that ALL guests know you don't need a FP for those attractions?

Then again, one of the unintended consequences of FP+ may be that we now WILL need a FP to do those attractions without a long wait.

 

[bjakmom]

But here is the problem with that, it doesn't really make the system better for the most of us (although those two people who said they only like to go in the evening will benefit) ... because for us it removes flexibility, increases planning needed, and limits our use of FP.

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^This! Is my greatest criticism of FP+ and if it rolls out requiring me to lock into a park day for FP+ times 60 days out, and means I have to keep to checking for changes and availability and/or doing standby for the headliners if I want to ride them - yuck! I'm a huge planner, but have never made a trip without at least one or more days that change due to weather, what the kids need/want and/or illness - in May we had a 6 hour weather delay at the airport - totally changed our 1st (and 2nd) day plans.

Then again, one of the unintended consequences of FP+ may be that we now WILL need a FP to do those attractions without a long wait.

^ And that! I'm also dreading what it will be like when they start blocking off all the FP+ spots for parades and shows and the kind of atmosphere/lack of magic that may create.
One of the unintended consequences IMHO of not closing/clearing the park on party nights is how it feels when the CMs come through the character lines and parade route checking for wrist bands and escorting families out of the park. It has just created a vibe I really don't enjoy. I believe it will spread the attitude of those who stand in line and bemoan the current FP line out into the streets before parades and/or shows.

 

[ExBellhop]

Friend of the family got to test recently. Went to studios. Had no problem getting FP+ for all 3 E's. Said everything went smoothly. Will be testing again soon.

Let the "yes, but"s begin

Obviously YMMV, IMO, BYOB, etc. lol

 

[ArwenMarie]

Friend of the family got to test recently. Went to studios. Had no problem getting FP+ for all 3 E's. Said everything went smoothly. Will be testing again soon.

Let the "yes, but"s begin

Obviously YMMV, IMO, BYOB, etc. lol

"Yes but" that was during the test. That doesn't mean that is how it is going to play out in real life once it goes live.