FP+ Details Are Out!

Remember, the magic number is 9. If you get 9 rides in a day you will be happy. So, you get 3 big attractions with your fast passes, and then 6 more should be no problem throughout the day even if you have to wait in stand-by (or take in Hall of Presidents, Stitch, COP, TTA, IASW, and Tiki Room). Then you day is over and you'll be happy.

Not calling you out on the "9" number, but instead I have genuine interest. Is that research from somewhere? I'd love to read it, or find where it was referenced. I love that kind of stuff :)

ExBellhop
 
Am I the only one seriously rethinking my WDW plan for 2014? As in, seriously thinking about not going?

I'm not rethinking my December trip or any future trips-what I'm doing is hoping that they have this stuff all figured out before I get there so that I know what I'm doing. :sad2:
 
If testing parameters continue to be used on roll-out, you get a group of fastpasses, with only one of the three being a headliner. That is one of the main things that bugs me about the new system.

The current test does not limit you to one headliner ("E-ticket"). Although the initial suggested choices may only include one, you are free to change them.

This was a major change from previous tests, where the attractions were tiered.
 
I've never, ever, EVER understood that number.
(And, yes, NINE is the number of attractions that it is claimed "most guests experience in a full day at WDW.")

There's a good reason that I've never, ever, EVER understood that number...

I've never, ever, EVER experienced nearly that FEW attractions in a full day at WDW.

Yeah...there are no words to figure this out. I'll wait and maybe go in 5 years when it's something completely different. I did 9 attractions by noon. Who are these people?
 

I've never, ever, EVER understood that number.
(And, yes, NINE is the number of attractions that it is claimed "most guests experience in a full day at WDW.")



There's a good reason that I've never, ever, EVER understood that number...

I've never, ever, EVER experienced nearly that FEW attractions in a full day at WDW.
I can't believe that number. If I walked out with only 9 - we would be crabby and frustrated
 
The current test does not limit you to one headliner ("E-ticket"). Although the initial suggested choices may only include one, you are free to change them.

This was a major change from previous tests, where the attractions were tiered.

So in current testing, participants would be able to select three headliners? If true, that is a definite improvement.
 
If testing parameters continue to be used on roll-out, you get a group of fastpasses, with only one of the three being a headliner. That is one of the main things that bugs me about the new system.


On the other FP+ thread, whatsarahsaid (who is currently one of the FP+ testers), was able to reserve 3 FP+s for 3 different headliners (no tiers in this round of testing).

Also, she said that when she missed/skipped one of her FP+ times, she was able to replace it with a second FP+ for a ride she had already done once with FP+ (so one day she got to do TSM twice with FP+ and another day she did RnRc twice with FP+, as I recall).

Of course this was only a test, but it suggests that there may be a less draconian scenario than only one-headliner-FP+-per-day.
 
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We love to park hop. The thing that really worries me is/ We can only fast pass 1 park per day. Why hop if this is how it works popcorn::
 
I'm not rethinking my December trip or any future trips-what I'm doing is hoping that they have this stuff all figured out before I get there so that I know what I'm doing. :sad2:

Or you could do what I have planned and head west for our annual Disney trip this year. They need to get the show on the road at WDW though so they can work out the kinks before we come back in late 2014.
 
We love to park hop. The thing that really worries me is/ We can only fast pass 1 park per day. Why hop if this is how it works popcorn::

Clever planners would book their FP's at the SECOND park of the day.
 
Parade/fireworks viewing I bet. No vultures hoping those areas don't fill and they let non-FP+ guests in...


That's a good guess.

I just hope it's not the Tangled bathrooms that are FP+ only, no-standby...
:lmao:
 
If testing parameters continue to be used on roll-out, you get a group of fastpasses, with only one of the three being a headliner. That is one of the main things that bugs me about the new system.

Yup, I'm thinking I am not going to be jumping for joy because I have a set of FPs for Country Bears in my pocket. Pretty much a "meh" thing for me.

I am a Disney fan but even I am shaking my head over how this whole FP+ system got all the way to this point. And I really would never, never, ever spend $24.95 for a BAND shirt, really!
There is surely a target audience out there who will enjoy spending for band accessories. I am not among them. Whatever Disney is giving out for "free" will be be just dandy for me.
 
yes, amongst other problems scheduling multiple parties.

I don't know about others, but Its not likely I would be willing, or others are willing, to let someone else book all their FPs, for themselves and their children, especially if there are differences in children, height, tolerance for rides, etc. If not, then basically we have to send out emails, like ok so May 2, John and Cindy Space mountain, 7DMT, Splash @ MK, Mid day, 5 yr/o Grace can't ride Min train or Space, so they will FP Dumbo and Peter Pan and splash, 10yr/o Robbie will ride with Frank on SM, 7DMT, but doesn't like to get wet, so they will do Haunted mansion, Grand parents Lynda and John will Do Splash, and 7DMT but don't like SM, so they will get Dumbo, and Melissa and Paul will split their 6yr/o and 9 yr/o ... blah blah blah ....

Ok, now add into that the kids change what they want to do, who they want to do it with, etc etc. Now that's just for planning ONE day, trying to coordinate with a group, through a single person.

What happens when people want to do it themselves, then you are going to get all those groups getting different times, etc etc. And nothing is going to mesh up.

This just sounds like an absolute nightmare for planning.

Let ALONE that you are supposed to KNOW all this, who (which kids, adults, etc) are going to do which rides, what days, at what TIME, 60 Days out !?!?!?

:rotfl2:
I'm sorry, but all I can do is laugh. My relatives already didn't like going to Disney with me because I told them we wanted to be at RD, we should ride certain rides first thing in the morning, and dh would be our fastpass runner. I had to back off the overplanning/overcontrolling attitude so I didn't drive everyone crazy. Back in the good old days when fastpasses didn't really expire, we could spend most of the day together and use our fastpasses together, even if the times didn't actually match. I can't imagine telling them we have to plan our schedule in detail and book the top attractions two months ahead of time, coordinating three or four different groups of people. :rotfl:
 
Considering the (un)reliability of WIFI in the parks, I'm afraid you might be right!

Not to mention that some of us refuse to buy smartphones because we don't want to be permanently tied to an electronic device instead of seeing things and talking to people.

Thank goodness my husband doesn't have the same attitude, so I could use his phone.
 
Not to mention that some of us refuse to buy smartphones because we don't want to be permanently tied to an electronic device instead of seeing things and talking to people.

Thank goodness my husband doesn't have the same attitude, so I could use his phone.

Same here. My wife and I are "talk-n-texters" and have no use for a smart phone. Good thing our kids are techno-equipped teenage Disneyphiles who can save the day! :laughing:
 
Not to mention that some of us refuse to buy smartphones because we don't want to be permanently tied to an electronic device instead of seeing things and talking to people.

Thank goodness my husband doesn't have the same attitude, so I could use his phone.

FYI, there is no law or requirement that owning a smartphone requires you to constantly poke people on Facebook, tweet, and play candy crush all day.

You can simply not use it for that. :)
 
I've never, ever, EVER understood that number.
(And, yes, NINE is the number of attractions that it is claimed "most guests experience in a full day at WDW.")



There's a good reason that I've never, ever, EVER understood that number...

I've never, ever, EVER experienced nearly that FEW attractions in a full day at WDW.

Most guests probably fall into that category. Many folks here, especially the ones chiming in on these threads, are the commandos. They do the maximum they can do with FP, strategies, etc. The majority are spontaneous and do things as they see them. Some will have a rough plan based on ADRs but will still stop and get autographs or shop or even stand in a long line just to ride something they or their kids want to do.
 
I'm sure nine was based on a variety of averages vs. customer survey feedback. And like any other average, it is not an absolute and doesn't apply to everyone. To be honest, I'm not sure how many we typically do in a day, and whether that is supposed to include eating (I'm sure Disney would love to consider their restaurants attractions :) ), etc.

Just throwing some numbers out...let's say, at MK with Fastpasses, I can do 9 attractions with an average wait time of 30 minutes each...that's only 4.5 park hours there.

OK, now let's also say I span two meal times...counter service 30 minutes, table service 60 minutes. Only up to six hours.

Two, maybe three bathroom breaks during 6 hours...let's be generous and give them 30 minutes total. Now we're at 6.5 hours.

Shopping? We don't do a lot of it, but let's say 30 minutes.

Time walking around, getting to places or otherwise not particularly occupied and other misc time? Again, lets be generous, taking our time...2 hours.

I'm up to 9 hours. MK is is typically open at least 12.

What do they expect I do with the other 3 hours?
 
I don't agree. When it comes to IT issues, we know Disney has a history of serious problems.

+1 on this. I think this has disaster written all over it. Of course, I tend to be pessimistic. Who wants to plan their rides now alongside the ADR's? Some vacation! I'm still hopeful they work this out properly though...
 
I'm up to 9 hours. MK is is typically open at least 12.

What do they expect I do with the other 3 hours?

I doubt the average person stays in a park for 12 hours. Just a guess.

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