FP+ Details Are Out!

[doconeill]

The fact that the bands have three year batteries sounds expensive. And wasteful? Are they reusable for multiple visits over the course of three years? Even still, I may be wrong but the majority of guests do not go more than once a year, if that? So they get a band for a four day trip and then it it's basically trash? Doesn't sound eco-friendly or cost effective?

The battery isn't that expensive...watch-type, probably LiIon. Given the low transmit power, even though it is constant, it could reach the 2-3 year plan.

Yes, they are reusable. And from some of the more recent info, if you already have one, you're expected to use it again on the next trip, or be subject to a replacement fee (first replacement is free).

 

[buckeev]

Chekov: Keptin, I think we should call security out to New Fantasyland...it appears the guests are climbing the trees...

...squirrels & cats...hehe....


"Not only that, they absolutely won't stay out of the trash cans!"

I can't get the image out of my head...

CM: Someone call Security...STAT! The MagicBand Thingee show SIX customers are in the trash can behind Cindy's Castle...at 4AM!....-(deviously rolls eyes.)

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

I guess Disney will soon market FP+ "headliner packs", sort of like the local NBA team. You can buy a pack of tix that includes a bunch of teams/attractions no one is interested in for a low price. Or you can buy a pack that lets you see the Heat, Lakers, and Thunder for a nice premium. I can envision Disney having a sweet upcharge for a "Soarin', Test Track,... um, what else?" pack at Epcot or a "Mountain pack" at MK

 

[d1gitman]

Those two things are mutually exclusive?

just sayin' that people thought that returning after the posted time for FP would cause problems but it doesn't....maybe FP+ won't cause problems although many are convinced it will.

in the end, we have to realize that the success of FP+ will not be judged by us, but by Disney. The goal by DIS'rs (generalizing as a majority of the DIS) is to obtain as many FP's as possible to cram in as many attractions as possible and to repeat our favorites as many times as possible. To many, myself included, FP is a huge success...but, to Disney, it may be deemed a non-success (not necessarily a complete failure) of what THEIR intentions were. I would say that FP+ is proof that FP was not what they were after long term. Statements by Disney brass seem to indicate that as well. We the DIS'rs may end up viewing FP+ as a failure while Disney obtains the success they are after.

Then again, if FP created more revenue by means of customers spending more in the parks, then FP would be deemed a success by the brass.

Another aspect may be that they don't expect the majority to spend 10-16 hrs per day in a park...thus if they can bundle up a 4-6 hr day via the FP+ system and start migrating non-park elements into the MyMagic+ system, they can capture additional revenue that way. It may not be as blunt as trying to get us out of line and directly into the gift shops and eateries. They may be looking at how do we get guests to use more of ALL of WDW. Afterall, WDW is different from the other Disney locations with regards to size, available space and amenities.

 

[jade1]

So I will repeat ...

I am not going to book an entire week of FPs all in MK just so I can be sure I get to ride space, or 7DMT, especially since if I book in MK, that means I can't in the other 3 parks.

The point that I was trying to make, and many have made here, is that this system locks you into it, there is very little room for flexibility. This becomes even more problematic if you are doing a shorter trip ...

So, I book my FP for 7DMT for Monday, morning, have DHS booked, Tues, Epcot Weds, AK Thursday, heading home Friday. Monday is a crap day, lightning storms, or my kid is sick, etc ... No way I am getting a 7DMT FP on the day of (unless they reserve some for same day, but then there is a whole other host of problems they will get themselves into) ... So now I either get to TRY and get on 7DMT, stand by, but of course this might completely conflict with my FPs booked that day in the other parks, which will be equally difficult to change since other people have been on booking 60 days prior ...

Repeat complete ...

What if your kids sick thurs? Then you miss EE, Safari, FOTLK etc-even with current FP. If you shorten your week and have no hoppers-chances you miss things is much greater.

Your not locked in-you can see whats available a week before, night before, even before you leave your hotel in the am.

Hoppers and AP's will be even better now. Hit 7DMT at rope drop before going to another park.

Stay longer. Schedule MK (7DMT) more than ONE day.

Ticket type, FP+ change flexibility, length of stay, weather and maintenance are all factors to consider. If you have a favourite attraction you do not want to miss, using the system will make it happen-as long as its up and running.

 

[squirrel4569]

Had a couple of thoughts on my way home from work today.

One, I think that it is quite possible that the appearance of FP+ and MagicBand references on the website could be in preparation for the 2014 packages going on sale tomorrow. Since it's supposed to be rolled out in 2013, it would most assuredly be ready for 2014 packages so people could pick colors for their bands, cards vs bands, etc. Perhaps the 60+10 date would be for guests arriving January 1st or later.

Another thought is that most likely things are going to get rolled out in a phased approach and with a "soft opening" type of structure. They'll probably start with giving all on-site guests the option of using the bands to replace their KTTW card, while allowing some double dipping of the FP system. I'd expect this to happen in late August/early September when it's slow. If the FP+ system croaks they can hand out paper FP to guests without impacting overall usage of the system. Full rollout will then be in time for the MNSSHP (which may be very scary indeed for DISers ) when the big crowds roll in.

Still not real sure how to do a relatively seamless transition from FP to FP+. If you are a guest arriving on September 30th and FP+ is set to fully go live on October 1st, how do they handle that guest making reservations for rides and such?

Still so much unknown but just throwing out a SWAG on it.

 

[reelmom]

What if your kids sick thurs? Then you miss EE, Safari, FOTLK etc-even with current FP. If you shorten your week and have no hoppers-chances you miss things is much greater.

Your not locked in-you can see whats available a week before, night before, even before you leave your hotel in the am.

Hoppers and AP's will be even better now. Hit 7DMT at rope drop before going to another park.

Stay longer. Schedule MK (7DMT) more than ONE day.

Ticket type, FP+ change flexibility, length of stay, weather and maintenance are all factors to consider. If you have a favourite attraction you do not want to miss, using the system will make it happen-as long as its up and running.

But the way I read the original quoted poster is, that if something happens the day of and results in a change to FP selections, there might not be the FP available. If they are already booked up, the riding what you want with FP may not be an option.

 

[jade1]

But the way I read the original quoted poster is, that if something happens the day of and results in a change to FP selections, there might not be the FP available. If they are already booked up, the riding what you want with FP may not be an option.

I don't doubt on the day of a FP+-it could break down, sick kid or rain etc. To me the back up plan is to have it (if that important) already scheduled for another day, or to hop (have a hopper or AP) there first thing tomorrow and ride SB at RD-then hit my scheduled park.

Or to keep an eye on the App for any open slots.

I'm pretty sure if a ride breaks down during your FP+-they will attempt to let you on later in the day when its back up.

Then again I am more inclined to work with what a system offers to complete my plans-than do all I can to maximize my risk of something not working out.

 

[Patience]

It's on the website, not the app.

Ok, so I checked the website and I still don't see what you saw.

 

[squirrel4569]

Ok, so I checked the website and I still don't see what you saw.

If you go under My Disney Experience -> My Itinerary -> date within your trip you should see this on the right hand side.



Of course, it will have your name instead of mine.

 

[racinjunkie]

If you go under My Disney Experience -> My Itinerary -> date within your trip you should see this on the right hand side.



Of course, it will have your name instead of mine.

So I clicked on the link in the box and here's one of the items listed for DHS

AED/Automated External Defibrillators

... don't think anyone's going to intentionally add that to their day LOL

 

[mom2rtk]

I don't doubt on the day of a FP+-it could break down, sick kid or rain etc. To me the back up plan is to have it (if that important) already scheduled for another day, or to hop (have a hopper or AP) there first thing tomorrow and ride SB at RD-then hit my scheduled park.

Or to keep an eye on the App for any open slots.

I'm pretty sure if a ride breaks down during your FP+-they will attempt to let you on later in the day when its back up.

Then again I am more inclined to work with what a system offers to complete my plans-than do all I can to maximize my risk of something not working out.

So under this new system the only way to be certain you can do a favorite attraction, you'd have to short yourself on another day and use a second spot for that attraction? That's just not very doable if the magic number is 3.

If only they could come up with a system that would allow greater flexibility, allowing guests to make all of their decisions same day with a minimum of fuss once they got to the park, maybe something that didn't rely on inadequate wireless coverage in the parks, something that allowed for last minute changes in plans.

Ahhh......... if only. I guess we can all just keep dreaming.

 

[Yellowstonetim]

If you go under My Disney Experience -> My Itinerary -> date within your trip you should see this on the right hand side.



Of course, it will have your name instead of mine.

Are you sure this is about FP? It looks like the general way you can add various things to your itinerary such as MNSSHP, Night of Joy, etc. Was there something that specifically said FP+?

 

[squirrel4569]

Are you sure this is about FP? It looks like the general way you can add various things to your itinerary such as MNSSHP, Night of Joy, etc. Was there something that specifically said FP+?

You can build yourself a customized itinerary based on the shows and such that you want to see. I picked the day we have for DHS and was able to see and save the times I wanted for BATB, LMA, etc. They aren't reservations, but that system could easily be moved to that I'm sure. Similar to how the wish list currently is setup.

I think the PP saw the wording that you can book things when the windows open and immediately thought FP+ because it's on the brain. Like I said I'm sure that it will be used that way in the future, just not at the moment.

 

[doconeill]

I think it will allow you to build out a plan, and once it is to your liking, and you are within your FP+ booking window, offer convenient links to book them.

At least, it appears that's what it might mean.

 

[jackieinJuneau]

My MDE app does not say that in the Wish List tab. Where is the consistency with this crazy app???

Ha, I know the iphone and i pad apps don't match exactly and the MDE website changes in little ways all the time has is being very odd today.

 

[Praying Colonel]

So I clicked on the link in the box and here's one of the items listed for DHS

AED/Automated External Defibrillators

... don't think anyone's going to intentionally add that to their day LOL

If you get shut out of the FP+s for the E attractions, that may be the best option left.

 

[Buckeye218]

If you get shut out of the FP+s for the E attractions, that may be the best option left.

Now that's funny!! LMAO!!!!

 

[momof2n2]

So I clicked on the link in the box and here's one of the items listed for DHS

AED/Automated External Defibrillators

... don't think anyone's going to intentionally add that to their day LOL

ROFLOL.
Can you see the CMs running to the turn styles as you wave your RFID @ the gate!

 

[larryz]

step right on up to the bar and I'll pour you another glass of kool-aid...what's your flavor?

Now, now -- we don't "drink the kool-aid" any more.


We "eat the Dole Whip."