Former Disney World employee arrested

[Aliceacc]

My point is whatever background checks, if any, Disney does isn't enough to ensure possible sex offenders aren't hired. My point is parents who assume WDW is safe for young kids, because it's Disney are wrong. My point is 7 years is a long time for a person like that to be around kids.

My point is posters who think Disney can check photo ID from every guest, in order to ensure customers on the sex offenders list can't enter WDW are living in Fantasyland.

I agree with everything you've written.

But, as I understand it, it wouldn't have mattered HOW thorough a background check they did, because that doesn't stop someone until after the FIRST time they're caught. I can't imagine what else Disney could have done in this case, any more than the congregation of this man could have done to protect themselves or their kids.

As much as we love to romanticize it, Disney World is a theme park. I think Disney does a fabulous job of trying to make it as safe as possible. But that simply does NOT mean it's "SAFE", just "as safe as possible." To be honest, I would be a lot more concerned about all the guests than any of hte CMs. Anyone can buy a ticket. Everyone has free access to the bathrooms, the resort hallways and staircases, and billion other places. There's no background check on the thousands of people on Disney property every single day.

Checking your good sense at the gate is a tragedy waiting to happen.

As to Disney checking to ensure that its employees are WORKING at work, no, I'm really fine with it. And if my employer wants to do the same, I'm good.

My primary concern here is for the 2 kids of the man they arrested.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

What's important here is keeping kids safe in an environment where parents tend to let their guard down

What's important is making sure the parents understand Disney can't make Disney safe enough for parent to let their guard down.



Both are what is important! They go hand in hand


AKK

 

[alice99]

Is there another story that says he's a registered sex offender? This one makes it sounds like it's his first offense. Right now he's just a guy accused of something. How can Disney know what is in people's hearts? And sexual predators are drawn to places like this and schools and playgrounds. I'm glad Disney is being vigilant for us because our kids don't have that kind of protection most times they leave the house. Unfortunately we can never assume they are safe.

WDW employs roughly 65,000 in central Florida alone. Not to mention the some 10,000 contractors and operating participants that work on property too (many of which interact with guests). This volume creates a challenge but they are at least up to date on techniques for weeding out those who are deemed undesirable. Disney's hiring policies are as good as they can be. They do their best to ensure nobody slips through the cracks and to catch those that turn bad. Granted, this is done NOW. Hiring policies and practices are drastically changing with technology. In this instance, where were we in 2006 when this guy was hired, what accesses did we have to prevent bad apples from getting in. Tonka said it best, they can't do anything until they get caught. Managers can profile people to the extent the law allows.

My takeaway form this story, Disney had a bad apple, he got caught, they got rid of him, and he's paying for his crime. As far as me and my humble opinion are concerned, Disney did their job and took care of the situation as best they could.

Completely agree with both of these. Disney may be magical, but how can they possibly know what is going on inside someone's head or heart?
Their screen shots have helped the authorities catch a sex predator.

 

[Bob NC]

Frankly reading this again, is anyone else bothered by the fact that Disney takes a screen shot of an employees computer every 3 seconds???? think how many of you are reading Disboards from work.....think your boss would approve? Big brother is watching at Disney that's for sure.

It's not "Big Brother", it's his employer taking screen shots of THEIR OWN computer.

I think in this case you are looking for some type of conspiracy where absolutely none exists.

I don't think this was the "employees computer", I believe it was a computer belonging to Disney.

 

[arthropodtodd]

It is odd that I can post about offenders yet again the DIS, sad really.

I found this to be an interesting story and given my job field (in treatment and assessment of sexual offenders) would find it interesting what happens to the guy now.

CP (child pornography) is a growing problem while the number of physical sexual assaults continues to go down. CP and internet/technology based offenses seems to be our future in the my field.

In my opinion, these guys can be hard to treat, but the majority of them do not offend physically, which is good news. I would have to pull out a journal for a few years ago to give the exact %.

I applaud Disney in this.

 

[summerw]

Probably nothing else. A poster in the thread which discussed Disney policy of not selling APs to customers on the sex offender list said:

What's important here is keeping kids safe in an environment where parents tend to let their guard down

What's important is making sure the parents understand Disney can't make Disney safe enough for parent to let their guard down.

Hopefully all parents know this already that no such place exists. I went to one of the Catholic schools with a priest who is now in jail. We all liked him a lot before we knew. And my mom babysat for a child whose father was later arrested. You never know, even in your own home. The best you can do is get to know your kids and talk to them.

 

[darkwing818]

I am glad they took care of it so fast and properly...............and a Pastor on top!. One sick *******!

AKK

Hits the nail on the head. No messing about.
What also, really struck me about this story, was the guy was a Pastor.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

. . . employees are fingerprinted, that is a sign that they do criminal background checks. I would hope through the FBI, which has the national databases . . .

1) That is all they can do.
2) After all, I slipped through.
3) And, I am guilty and didn't get flagged
. . . I used NFL descriptions without the permission of NBC or the NFL
. . . I tore the "do not remove under penalty of law" tag from my mattress


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[theparsons]

It's not "Big Brother", it's his employer taking screen shots of THEIR OWN computer.

I think in this case you are looking for some type of conspiracy where absolutely none exists.

I don't think this was the "employees computer", I believe it was a computer belonging to Disney.

No, not looking for conspiracy and yes, Disney has the legal right to monitor their computers.....but it also still is just weird to me that they would do that. I live in the new Fantasyland, having moved from the old Fantasyland.....and CMs are good people that don't need that level of checking! Somehow it conjures up Yensid in my warped brain.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

No, not looking for conspiracy and yes, Disney has the legal right to monitor their computers.....but it also still is just weird to me that they would do that. I live in the new Fantasyland, having moved from the old Fantasyland.....and CMs are good people that don't need that level of checking! Somehow it conjures up Yensid in my warped brain.

It's not weird at all, it is simply part of business today and I am glad Disney is doing all they can to weed out these sickos!

this is not someone surfing the net or planning a vacation on company time. This sicko was dealing in illegal and totally horrific child abuse.

The fact we have at least this one child porno guy shows they are being successful! I am sure the rest of the good CM's at Disney are happy this guy is gone!

AKK

 

[Aliceacc]

No, not looking for conspiracy and yes, Disney has the legal right to monitor their computers.....but it also still is just weird to me that they would do that. I live in the new Fantasyland, having moved from the old Fantasyland.....and CMs are good people that don't need that level of checking! Somehow it conjures up Yensid in my warped brain.

I think you might be surprised at some of the people who are on the sex offenders registry.

I know one. He was a good friend, had a job with a brokerage firm in NYC, was an usher at mass and the father of a boy who is now 13. My kids called him "Uncle Bob." I can't tell you the number of times my kids were in their house.

About a year after he and his family moved cross country, his teenage niece flew in for a visit. And woke up one night to find Uncle Bob's hand in her pants.

As far as kids are concerned--and adults too-- EVERYONE needs "that level of checking." After all, we all urge our kids to find a CM if they ever get lost. We place our trust in those CMs, and 99.999% of them deserve it, and go above and beyond for our kids. But we, and Disney, still need to be on guard against that 0.001% who might do our kids harm.

 

[theparsons]

It's not weird at all, it is simply part of business today and I am glad Disney is doing all they can to weed out these sickos!

this is not someone surfing the net or planning a vacation on company time. This sicko was dealing in illegal and totally horrific child abuse.

The fact we have at least this one child porno guy shows they are being successful! I am sure the rest of the good CM's at Disney are happy this guy is gone!

AKK

Yes, IF he is guilty of course we're all glad that he has been caught....and maybe I've just been out of the corporate world too long, but taking a screen shot of the computer screen every 3 SECONDS? When you think of the number of employees just at Disney alone, that would require thousands of employees just to monitor other employees. Seems a bit obsessive....and considering how many of these disgusting types are out there for years before they get caught, also doesn't seem very effective.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Yes, IF he is guilty of course we're all glad that he has been caught....and maybe I've just been out of the corporate world too long, but taking a screen shot of the computer screen every 3 SECONDS? When you think of the number of employees just at Disney alone, that would require thousands of employees just to monitor other employees. Seems a bit obsessive....and considering how many of these disgusting types are out there for years before they get caught, also doesn't seem very effective.

He was caught with the filth on his company computer, looking at it...........give him his trial...........fine............but if they only get 1 at a time by monitoring the company owned computers/systems it shows its needed!

Frankly this is legal, the employees know they do it, you have no logical reason to disagree. It NOT obsessive at all, The children come first.

I don't see how you could even suggest that monitoring be stopped because YOU feel its infective, even thought is has proved it works.


AKK

 

[momof2n2]

Will the arguing continue in this thread as long as it did on the "Sex offenders banned from WDW" thread? I hope not.

Yes, sometimes people are found innocent after a charge was placed and that's sad and wrong. But that isn't what happened here......

 

[aubriee]

No, not looking for conspiracy and yes, Disney has the legal right to monitor their computers.....but it also still is just weird to me that they would do that. I live in the new Fantasyland, having moved from the old Fantasyland.....and CMs are good people that don't need that level of checking! Somehow it conjures up Yensid in my warped brain.

Not weird at all. Their computers, they have a right to monitor them.

I work at a psychiatric hospital. Every year on our hire date we have a bunch of computer courses that we are required to take that basically are just reminder courses to make sure our knowledge and skills are kept up to date. We also have an all day PMAB class and the nurses have an all day medical skills class that we have to attend. If we don't get them all done by the end of our hire date month we get written up. One of the computer courses is titled Computer Useage. It basically reminds us what we can and can not use hospital computers for (we are allowed to use them for limited private use--can send private emails or plan vacations, for example, but may not use them to play games, shop on ebay, or enter sweepstakes). One of the questions that's always on the test at the end of that particular course is that we have no right to privacy, that the computers are checked randomly, and if we are caught going anywhere we are not supposed to, it is grounds for immediate dismissal without any recourse. Another question that is always in that course is that we are not allowed to check any part of a patient's record that we don't have reason to be in that part of their chart and if we are caught in a patient's chart when we don't have a reason to be in there, we will be immediately dismissed. Only the nurses and doctors have internet access and if we are caught letting anyone else use our internet, we may be dismissed. In fact, there are several RNs that have lost their internet access, because they let one of their mental health workers use it. The mental health workers didn't go anywhere bad, they just weren't supposed to be on the nurse's internet. It is stressed during new employee orientation exactly what we can do on the internet and that if we are caught violating the hospital's policy, no second chances will be given. We are told straight up that they monitor our computer useage closely and we'd better be careful where we go.

 

[Judyfun]

Frankly reading this again, is anyone else bothered by the fact that Disney takes a screen shot of an employees computer every 3 seconds???? think how many of you are reading Disboards from work.....think your boss would approve? Big brother is watching at Disney that's for sure.

I do not work for Disney, but I know that my work computer is just that, the companies computer and I also know that they keep tract of what we do and where we go online.