For those who stream Netflix/Hulu...

Other countries offer faster speeds with truly unlimited connections over cell phones, you would think we could do the same here.

But you are not putting things in their proper perspective...

South Korea, for example, is the most "connected" country in the world. A huge majority of homes and businesses in that country have high-speed internet with no known restrictions.

South Korea is also roughly the size of the state of Indiana, which makes it significantly smaller than the U.S. (same for all those European countries, too).
 
We are very happy with Charter and are part of the Class Action Suit against ATT.

Need to remember, Charter Communications is not available all over the U.S. Companies such as Comcast, Time Warner, and Cox are way bigger.

As much as I would like to support a "hometown" outfit such as Charter, I still question their stability/long-term viability in the marketplace. Plus, I'm not sure if you are speaking of AT&T DSL or U-verse, but U-verse stands head and shoulders above Charter and their big, black, clunky "digital" box.
 
Ugh, thanks for the heads up. This might end up sending us back to Comcast... With two gaming computers (and two WoW accounts), one computer we use almost exclusively for streaming movies, and a Wii that we use for Netflix and some online gaming, we were consistantly well below Comcast's cap. But with Uverse unavailable in our area, we're stuck with DSL from AT&T and that cap is much lower.

I wonder if AT&T will add a meter to their account site so subscribers can see how much bandwidth they're using. Comcast's meter had us running consistently around 100-125GB/mo, just barely under AT&T's cap, and I don't like the idea that we'll be charged for overage without any way to monitor our use.
 
I wonder if AT&T will add a meter to their account site so subscribers can see how much bandwidth they're using. Comcast's meter had us running consistently around 100-125GB/mo, just barely under AT&T's cap, and I don't like the idea that we'll be charged for overage without any way to monitor our use.

DH and I were talking about this last night, and I'm certain that at&t will HAVE to add some way for you to determine what your usage is, otherwise you'd have no way to know if you are close to the limit or not.

I'm guessing that we will be WAY over the limit. DH works from home and does computer programming stuff, and he is always sending huge files to and from his clients, plus we play a lot of facebook games, surf the internet, get lots of email and watch lots of streaming Nextflix.

It looks like we might be moving to Comcast. :sad2:
 

DH and I were talking about this last night, and I'm certain that at&t will HAVE to add some way for you to determine what your usage is, otherwise you'd have no way to know if you are close to the limit or not.

I'm guessing that we will be WAY over the limit. DH works from home and does computer programming stuff, and he is always sending huge files to and from his clients, plus we play a lot of facebook games, surf the internet, get lots of email and watch lots of streaming Nextflix.

It looks like we might be moving to Comcast. :sad2:

I work from home too, though fortunately not in a capacity that involves a lot of large files. It is more our recreational usage that I'm worried about, because e-mail and txt/doc attachments aren't that bandwidth-intensive.

I may end up limiting the kids' Netflix viewing rather than switching back to Comcast, because we're paying a few dollars less with AT&T for home phone, satellite TV, and internet than we were paying Comcast for a smaller cable package and internet without phone service. But if they don't add a meter and I can't track use, it may be back to Comcast rather than getting surprise fees from AT&T.
 
Service providers will almost surely soon provide metering tools for consumers on metered service, if they don't already do so. I doubt that gap, where it still exists, will exist that long. It's only conspiracy theorists that suspect ISPs of trying to trick people into paying unexpectedly for overuse. The reality is that ISPs simply are aiming to have consumers pay for the value they receive from the service offered... there is no justification for assuming that they're seeking to keep consumers in the dark about how much service they're using.
 
But as I have pointed out, there are still plenty of unmetered services out there.

If you are under contract with a company that is adding a cap to your existing service, it would constitute a significant change and allow yo 30 days from the date the cap is put in place to cancel without paying an ETF and don't let them tell you that you can't, it's the law.

Bottom line is the best way that you can voice your displeasure is to vote with your wallet.

As for Comcast, they are also adding caps in many markets, double check that your market is not one of them.

Clear.com also offers phone and Internet packages and with Netflix and Hulu there is very little reason to have cable these days. Of course with unlimited packages on so many cell phone plans, there is very little reason to have a home phone any more either. Another alternative is to get a Skype unlimited ameria plan and a cell phone that works with skype and has an unlimited data plan. Granted they are getting harder to find on cell phones, but still possible as well.
 
As for Comcast, they are also adding caps in many markets, double check that your market is not one of them.

In my market Comcast added a 250GB/month cap. Pass it once and they will warn you. Pass it again and they have the option of banning you for a year. They offer a bandwidth monitor on their website or you can do a search for "bandwidth monitor" and find a free one to install on your computer. We don't stream anything and still managed to get a warning.

We dropped Comcast because of their bandwidth restrictions and switched to AT&T UVerse, which has no limit. I made them put it down in writing that they had no limit before I let them install it and monitored it to make sure.

Uverse also sells TV packages so there may come a time when they don't like the competition and will impose a cap. When they do we'll switch to someone else.
 
As stated in the article from the first post AT&T uverse is also imposing a cap, it's higher than DSL, but it is still a cap.
 
Charter will be here to hook us up this week:thumbsup2

We have ATT DSL and Dish, but with Xbox Live, Netflix, 2 laptops, our DSL is slow. We decided as a family, we would rather have a faster connection and more control over our media.

What is the class action against Att?
 
Bottom line is the best way that you can voice your displeasure is to vote with your wallet.
Very true. Do be prepared, though, to switch a few times, before things settle down, and when they settle down, do be prepared for the final destination to include metered service for heavy users. No other end-result is as likely as that.
 
Charter Internet has the same caps, if not less than UVerse. I spent quite a bit of time on the phone with them yesterday. They are also nationwide, so it's not a small local company by any means. The only difference, is they say they won't throttle their customers, and there's no charge for going over the cap. However, continued use over the cap will result in loss of your internet, any where between 3-6 months.

25mb down speed has a 250 cap, quoted at $69 a month
18mb down speed has a 150 cap, quoted at $54 a month


UVerse is the current ISP
6mb down speed has a 250 cap, paying $40 a month
12mb down speed has a 250 cap, quoted at $45 a month

AT&T will notify you at 60%, 90%, and 100% usage.

The overall cost to provide the internet is extremely cheap, but they don't want to put up the infrastructure to support the growing online community and the needs. So it would cut into their huge profit margin. Got worry about the lining of the CEO's pocket and the shareholder's.
 
UVerse is the current ISP
6mb down speed has a 250 cap, paying $40 a month
12mb down speed has a 250 cap, quoted at $45 a month

AT&T will notify you at 60%, 90%, and 100% usage.

We pay $45/month for their 12mb with unlimited bandwidth. Their 12mb is actually slower than the 8mb cable we had from Comcast but we don't care since Comcast had a 250 cap and, while slower, it's a tortoise vs hare result.

The day we get a notice from AT&T about caps is the day we start looking for another provider.

The overall cost to provide the internet is extremely cheap, but they don't want to put up the infrastructure to support the growing online community and the needs. So it would cut into their huge profit margin. Got worry about the lining of the CEO's pocket and the shareholder's.

That is why companies exist. If you owned stock in AT&T it's exactly what you would want them to do. If you think you can provide it for a lower cost and wish to work for less money there is nothing stopping you from starting your own ISP and putting AT&T out of business.
 
We pay $45/month for their 12mb with unlimited bandwidth. Their 12mb is actually slower than the 8mb cable we had from Comcast but we don't care since Comcast had a 250 cap and, while slower, it's a tortoise vs hare result.

The day we get a notice from AT&T about caps is the day we start looking for another provider.

The cap is supposedly coming in a couple of months. Too bad this can't be applied like when they changed the data plan on the cell phones. That current customers can't be grandfathered in.


What I don't get, is if this only effects 2% of the market, why are they implementing these new rules? So you know it's got to be affecting more than that.
 
Charter Internet has the same caps, if not less than UVerse. I spent quite a bit of time on the phone with them yesterday. They are also nationwide, so it's not a small local company by any means.

No, Charter is not a small, local company (but they are indeed "local" in my town, since their corporate HQ is in St. Louis), but as the nations #4 cable company, they are nowhere near as big as Comcast/Time Warner Cable/Cox.
 
Well, as more and more movies/tv viewing and all that start streaming through the internet, the average person is more likely to start hitting that cap. Not just the IT/engineer kind of person who uses massive amounts for data transfers.

An average netflix movie is 1-2gb, and the average tv show is 300-400mb. Well we got the basic DVD quality down, now people want more HD movies and shows (like through Hulu and Vudu). So now it's up to 8gb movies. Play those 2-3 times a week and that's 24gb x 4 weeks, averaging just under a 100gb a month on just movies. Got more than one streaming device, kids in one room, parents in another, it'll be quite easy to use even more than that.

The gaming industry is moving more and more towards downloadable games. It's cheaper than having to produce discs, manuals, cases, and then paying the middle man (retail stores) to carry the games. It used to be just small 1-2gb games, that were simple like Tetris or Angry Birds, the cost was usually around $10-15. Now it's full games that are 10-20gb, the cost is usually around $40-60.

Patches, updates, and the wonderful DLC (download content, just to squeeze a few more bucks out of a player), are all through the internet. There's some games that wind up with 2-3gb updates (like Unreal Tournament).

Then there's the great online community so players can play against each other from around the world. Well there's more internet streaming. It's very little in comparison, but it does add up over time. Especially for the WOW users who are addicted.

Now that we've got our media covered which is probably going to be the greatest user of internet bandwidth, there's the basic internet browsing. Most sites are under a 1gb, but there's more and more sites popping up that are larger than 1gb.

People are always wanting better quality, and companies are finding it easier and easier to provide the better quality, but the internet companies don't want to keep up with the new technology that's available. Remember the olden days when having DSL was a big thing and expensive as heck? In 2004 I was paying $50 a month for Bellsouth DSL (around 1mb-3mb per second), now $50 a month can get you 6mb-18mb per second. As long as people have the speed to download, open files, and view large web pages, they don't seem to notice how much bandwidth they're actually using.

As we move into a world of everything is on "my time", people are going to want to do things when they want to, not when some one else says so. People don't want cable, because A) it's too expensive, and B) they don't always have the time when it's actually on to watch their shows. Look how many people "wouldn't survive" without their DVR boxes. The internet and streaming allows for people to do things on "their time".
 
And this is why we vote with our wallets and go to someone without any caps. We all need to do this when caps are implemented.
 
Very true. Do be prepared, though, to switch a few times, before things settle down, and when they settle down, do be prepared for the final destination to include metered service for heavy users. No other end-result is as likely as that.
I disagree, the services that I have previously mentioned have no caps. I do not see all of them imposing caps. Also, if any company adds a cap and you are on a contract, you can cancel the contract due to the change in the contract.
 














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