Food and Wine Festival booth listing scan

Excellent news! Thanks for posting and be sure to have a most excellent time today ... I can't wait to hear all about the Gala tonight! :thumbsup2

OMG..so far booking the with the amex card has been so worth it. The chefs, food, adult beverages have been fantastic in the VIP area. We are having a blast. Back at the room now, getting dressed for the gala. Everything..so worth it.
 
First off, congrats on being smoke-free! I am too, it's been over 7 months for me. I know what an accomplishment it is. You go, girl! :thumbsup2

Second, thanks for the link to the complete Festival guide. It's great to be able to read the whole thing ahead of time and make some plans.

Finally - does anyone know any details on this "California Food & Wine Festival" that's listed on the very last page? It looks like it is scheduled during the Flower & Garden Festival, so if you planned your next trip for between April 24th and May 31st, you would get to attend both festivals at the same time.

The California Food and Wine Festival is later and longer by an extra week. We have gone since the "official" start and they get better each one. So far it has not compared to WDW in the amount of "special events" but what they do have seems to improve all the time. Briarrose did a FANTASTIC review of all the events she did last year. The only one we have done is called TASTE - thei:flower3: r version of PFTS and it does not even come close to PFTS! Personally I think the free wine classes and food demonstrations in California are WAY better. Hope this helps a little!
 
The California Food and Wine Festival is later and longer by an extra week. We have gone since the "official" start and they get better each one. So far it has not compared to WDW in the amount of "special events" but what they do have seems to improve all the time. Briarrose did a FANTASTIC review of all the events she did last year. The only one we have done is called TASTE - thei:flower3: r version of PFTS and it does not even come close to PFTS! Personally I think the free wine classes and food demonstrations in California are WAY better. Hope this helps a little!

Psst, I'm BriarRosie. :laughing: But thanks for the plug! :hug:

The blue link in my signature is my food-centric trip report of the California festival from April, and the green link is my food-centric trip report of the WDW festival from last October. I'll be taking more food photos in a few weeks.

If anyone is interested in reading about these, the links go to an index page, which has a clickable link for each review. No hassles scrolling through pages of commentary. :thumbsup2
 
Psst, I'm BriarRosie. :laughing: But thanks for the plug! :hug:

The blue link in my signature is my food-centric trip report of the California festival from April, and the green link is my food-centric trip report of the WDW festival from last October. I'll be taking more food photos in a few weeks.

If anyone is interested in reading about these, the links go to an index page, which has a clickable link for each review. No hassles scrolling through pages of commentary. :thumbsup2

I know who you are Lori! :lovestruc I was going by your "handle" so others knew who I was talking about!
It's like Breaker Breaker 19 this hear is the Rubber Duck and it looks like we have ourselves a convoy! OK How DID I JUST DATE MYSELF THAT MUCH?
Any who.. your reviews were WONDERFUL!!:banana:
 

OMG..so far booking the with the amex card has been so worth it. The chefs, food, adult beverages have been fantastic in the VIP area. We are having a blast. Back at the room now, getting dressed for the gala. Everything..so worth it.

Glad you had a good time at the contest VIP area! Now that the gala dinner is over... take your time... :surfweb: have a big cup of coffee... and TELL US HOW IT WAS!!! :yay: Pictures would be even better! :thumbsup2

I can't wait to hear about your big night! :goodvibes
 
Glad you had a good time at the contest VIP area! Now that the gala dinner is over... take your time... :surfweb: have a big cup of coffee... and TELL US HOW IT WAS!!! :yay: Pictures would be even better! :thumbsup2

I can't wait to hear about your big night! :goodvibes

Yes, what Michelle said! :goodvibes :hug:
 
Any possibility it's not Disney cutting back? I've always been under the impression that the wineries are providing all that wine that is poured during the seminars, and that they count on the exposure to increase sales. With an economic downturn, all corporations are re evaluating their advertising expenses. Some of them may feel that they can't count on the return on investment or just flat out can't afford to paticipate. Some that get involved in multiple festivals may have cut back. It's got be a huge investment in travel, product and personnel to come to Disney for a wine tasting.
 
Any possibility it's not Disney cutting back? I've always been under the impression that the wineries are providing all that wine that is poured during the seminars, and that they count on the exposure to increase sales. With an economic downturn, all corporations are re evaluating their advertising expenses. Some of them may feel that they can't count on the return on investment or just flat out can't afford to paticipate. Some that get involved in multiple festivals may have cut back. It's got be a huge investment in travel, product and personnel to come to Disney for a wine tasting.

I'm sure there is some truth to your point, but I looked at last year's festival guide and this is what I found:

2007 - Food & Wine Pairings were offered at 7 different Epcot restaurants.

2008 - Food & Wine Pairings are being offered at 3 different Epcot restaurants.


2007 - There were 6 Exquisite Evenings held at Epcot.

2008 - No Exquisite Evenings are being held.


2007 - There were 7 different signature dining events being held around WDW property.

2008 - There are 2 signature dinners, being held within 5 days of each other.


2007 - There were 6 Regional Feasts held at Epcot.

2008 - There is 1 Regional Feast being offered.


I could go on but I won't. I have no idea what's driving the festival "scale-back" but I think that there is more than one single explanation for it. And my husband and I are disappointed in what we perceive to be a real lack of special programming compared with previous years. And the "freebies" have been reduced pretty significantly, too.

When I spoke with a CM at the Disney Dining Experience office about my concerns last month I was told that a lot of these changes came about because guests asked for them. That's the biggest load of garbage I've come across since passing a landfill last week on a detour to my office. :laughing: In years past many of the F&W pairings sold out within a day after reservations began being accepted - many of the signature dinners and exquisite evenings also sold out quickly. To me that indicates that there was tremendous interest and demand for these type of events and certainly wouldn't warrant cutting them back so extensively while not making an effort to replace them with anything equally as interesting.

Just my two cents. :goodvibes
 
Here are theories I have, some of which are based on things I did hear which I won't attribute on a public board.

At the moment I'm talking about a WDW that just let my favorite place in all of WDW die out even though there were hundreds of people (including me) squashed against the walls in there last night trying to see one last show. And hundreds more who couldn't get in watching on video monitors outside. But I digress.

1) Small scale special events, say 40-50 people, are not profitable uses of WDW restaurants no matter how much they charge for the event. Individual guests will most likely not agree to pay the price at which those would become profitable.

2) WDW has noted the massive interest in two aspects of the food and wine festival - Party for the Senses and the Epcot food booths. For the vast majority of the attendees, the food booths ARE the food and wine festival. PFTS is a large event with a lot of people attending. Note how there are many more large walkabout events scheduled. WDW may have wanted to cut down on complaints that guests weren't able to book events because they all sold out too soon. That, and make the switch to larger events for profit reasons.

The Cook Book and Bottle on Friday, while excellent, had several empty tables in the festival venue, so it may also be that in the current economy there are fewer takers for the expensive events.

Two of the restaurants eliminated from the pairings - Coral Reef and Le Cellier - are currently highly popular with regular diners, especially those on the dining plan. Blocking off tables for a small scale event when many more people could fill those restaurants and turn the tables over would not have proven financially sound for WDW, not to mention angering dining plan users who couldn't get tables because special events blocked off part of the restaurant.

Same thing with the signature restaurants, which previously hosted their own dinners. Now, the result of the dining plan is: the restaurants are busy, the chefs are busy, the ingredients are cut (not entirely a dining plan thing) and there's no time or inclination to plan a special event of this type without a huge influx of cash - the kind that private parties and corporations pay, not the kind that WDW makes on food and wine festival.

3) WDW underestimated the interest level of locals and guests in the Bocuse D'Or gala (note how the admission price and inclusions kept being altered to accommodate guests who had annual passes, etc)

Actually I have heard the excuse "the guests asked for it" before (see my previous paragraph about my favorite place, which now no longer exists) and it may be the circles I move in, but I have yet to meet any of the guests that asked for it.
 
I think a big factor is the fee Disney charges wineries to even show up at the festival (from another board I had read $30,000).

We went to the DLR F&W festival this year and really talked up the Epcot festival. We even brought a brochure from last yearl's festival showing all the things that you could do. Some people even said they may travel to Florida to try it out. I hope no one had decided to travel to Florida. There were more free wine seminars in California than will be in Florida this year!!??!! (on a daily basis).

Ed

P.S. I know I said I would stop my negative comments until I was there first hand, but the cuts are too much to handle.
 
Since AllEarsNet has added the prices for Australia, here are the basics.

Ordering one of everything at the booths will cost $728.05. The number does not include the Desani and Evian waters :) . It only includes the smaller (12 oz) beers.

Out of the above number,

$201.65 for food
$52.00 for desserts
$221.00 for wine
$140.00 for beer
$52.00 for champagne
$27.70 for cocktails

The most increase in price from last year is the Poland kielbasi and perogi - went from $3.75 to $4.50 (many have gone up $.50)

The potato leek soup has stayed the same now for 3 years ($2.75)

Ed
 
Since AllEarsNet has added the prices for Australia, here are the basics.

Ordering one of everything at the booths will cost $728.05. The number does not include the Desani and Evian waters :) . It only includes the smaller (12 oz) beers.

Out of the above number,

$201.65 for food
$52.00 for desserts
$221.00 for wine
$140.00 for beer
$52.00 for champagne
$27.70 for cocktails

The most increase in price from last year is the Poland kielbasi and perogi - went from $3.75 to $4.50 (many have gone up $.50)

The potato leek soup has stayed the same now for 3 years ($2.75)

The lobster roll (which last made an appearance in 2006) went from $5.00 to $7.00.

Ed
WOW! Thank you for doing this - it is very interesting !
I like all the new cocktails being offered this year! I hope they taste as good as they sound!
 
Can anyone tell me whether any of the food at the kiosks are covered under a snack credit on the dining plan? If so, I might end up using all of mine and DS's snack credits in one day! :D
 
I am not on the dining plan. But it appeared to me today that ALL food items regardless of cost are covered by dining plan snack credits, same as 2007.
 
Glad you had a good time at the contest VIP area! Now that the gala dinner is over... take your time... :surfweb: have a big cup of coffee... and TELL US HOW IT WAS!!! :yay: Pictures would be even better! :thumbsup2

I can't wait to hear about your big night! :goodvibes

I do have pics...a lot of them, lol. Got them uploaded...now will get the report going.
 
Can anyone tell me whether any of the food at the kiosks are covered under a snack credit on the dining plan? If so, I might end up using all of mine and DS's snack credits in one day! :D

Yes, there seemed to be items at each booth covered by the snack credits.
They items covered are clearly marked with a little blue/white stamp next to them so you know exactly what you can/can't order if you are using snack credits to pay.
 
mmmmm..mmmmm...mmmm! i thoroughly plan to eat my world around the world.

thanks for posting, OP.
 












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