Florida Teacher Gets No Jail Time

[CathrynRose]

I certainly don't want to demeane one or the other, but I would think, being molested by a priest would carry a bit more emtional damage than having consentual sex with a 25 year old, beautiful woman.

Would it be bad then, if she was a big fat beastly woman??

 

[CathrynRose]

Please. This is absurd. It is best to never judge a situation unless you have a detailed knowledge of the facts and applicable law, That said. we'd rather not have new residents that are prone to such overarching judgments

Call it absurd. I lived there for 18 months and saw a warped judicial system over and over.

I saw my "detailed knowledge" on the news night after night after night after night.....

 

[sodaseller]

I can't speak of any special expertise in the area but I have some good friends that have been active in Guardian ad Litem (staff) and now run a Catholic adoption agency for abused and neglected children. They are far from prudish as far as adults are concerned, but have convinced me that all children, even teenage boys, are scarred by sexual activities with adults. Also, adults that seek relationships with teenagers, esp those like LaFave, which, as noted, are certainly attractive enough to attract adult attention, often do so because they need relationships they can express false dominance in and manipulate.

This case drew a lot of discussion about tthat very perception - that the boys would be fine. They felt strongly otherwise, speaking generally (keeping confidentiality) of analagous situations in which the boys were strongly effected, esp. as to their ability hold mature adult relationships. Children that are violated sexually by adults, and that would include and a 24 and a 14 year old, are altered. I have always had some sympathy for those facing criminal charges for consensual relationships with very little spread in age , i.e. 18/15, as that is not a significant difference in maturity in most cases.

 

[boomhauer]

Would it be bad then, if she was a big fat beastly woman??

It's bad either way. That's not what this post is referring to. It's referring to the psychological "damage" inflicted upon the 14 year old.

 

[sodaseller]

Call it absurd. I lived there for 18 months and saw a warped judicial system over and over.

I saw my "detailed knowledge" on the news night after night after night after night.....

You will never get accurate information from local news - they live to mischaracterize something in a salacious manner. Nor is it detailed in the least. I have seen many hardworking and honest individuals slandered by local news, like Judge Greer and the judge compelled to release Joseph Smith

On the Jennifer Porter issue, your snap statement suggests that you are adopting the local news comparisons of her sentencing to vehicular homicide cases, which she was not charged with (and which the evidence strongly suggests she was not guilty of). Her sentence was not out of line with similar "leaving the scene" adjudications, even those involving death. That's the kind of real facts that judges have to work with but idiot reporters don't

 

[CathrynRose]

It's bad either way. That's not what this post is referring to. It's referring to the psychological "damage" inflicted upon the 14 year old.

Okay fine - if you want to talk semantics....is is "damaging" if it was a big, fat beastly woman?


I just feel - ESPECIALLY with this woman being a TEACHER - this is UNacceptable.... it's flat out wrong!

 

[boomhauer]

Okay fine - if you want to talk semantics....is is "damaging" if it was a big, fat beastly woman?


I just feel - ESPECIALLY with this woman being a TEACHER - this is UNacceptable.... it's flat out wrong!

I don't know - Probably not if it was consentual.

It is flat out wrong. I didn't say it wasn't. It's wrong on the teacher's part. I don't blame the 14 year old kid at all.

 

[Jennifer S]

Why did Mary Kay Latternou (sp?) get jail for being w/ her student but this woman didn't? I don't know all the facts of this case and what the differences are.

 

[boomhauer]

Why did Mary Kay Latternou (sp?) get jail for being w/ her student but this woman didn't? I don't know all the facts of this case and what the differences are.

Because Mary Kay wasn't as hot as this woman.






............................................just kidding.

 

[BelleMcNally]

I don't know what to say. I can assure you, at age 14, I would have.

I think that a 14 year-old boy could definitely have the desire to be with his "hot teacher", but even if he wanted it and actively pursued it, it would be damaging.

As a female, I can tell you that when I was 14 I was in *loooove* with one of my male teachers, and probably thought that I would love for him to want to have sex with me...but if we actually *had* engaged in a sexual relationship...I think I would have felt diferently.

Is this kind of abuse the same as when a "big bad man" takes a girl against her will? No. But not all kinds of sexual abuse are the same.

That said, I do understand your point...I've had to endure many of my brother's/friend's comments about this or that sexy teacher.

 

[MICKEY88]

well, I totally agree with you. If the teacher would have been a male, people would be screaming for the Death Penalty.

Not to flame you VetteChick - but do you honestly not feel that a 14yo boy can't be abused? I have to wonder about the Psychological effects any Jr. High kid that forms such an attachment to an authority-adult will have for years.

hmmm I did that at 13 with a 22 year old teacher and the only after effects I have are fond memories...

 

[Planogirl]

Shades of Mrs Robinson!

How would some of you who don't see it as "so bad" feel if it was your son or nephew? I don't think that a teen will necessarily be scarred for life either but it's still wrong.

As for the double standard, keep in mind that girls tend to mature faster than boys. That would make a teen girl's infatuation with a teacher even more understandable than that of a boy's. But teachers should certainly know better.

 

[Virgo10]

Florida's justice system stinks to high heaven - Check out Jennifer Porters case, as well.

Another fine reason, to stay put and only *visit* Florida - not move there.

That seems a bit harsh. I moved here from Massachusetts last year and it seems that there was a lot of stupidity up there too.

BTW, when you find the perfect place, please let the rest of us know about it.

 

[CathrynRose]

You will never get accurate information from local news - they live to mischaracterize something in a salacious manner. Nor is it detailed in the least. I have seen many hardworking and honest individuals slandered by local news, like Judge Greer and the judge compelled to release Joseph Smith

On the Jennifer Porter issue, your snap statement suggests that you are adopting the local news comparisons of her sentencing to vehicular homicide cases, which she was not charged with (and which the evidence strongly suggests she was not guilty of). Her sentence was not out of line with similar "leaving the scene" adjudications, even those involving death. That's the kind of real facts that judges have to work with but idiot reporters don't

*sad* I do not want to argue about this, BUT...

She killed 2 boys, and left the scene of the crime. 2 kids, died - THEN her parents helped her cover up her little mishap, washed the car, removed these children's hair from the windsheild and refused to cooperate with the police investigation. Then Jennifer lied about it for days. And lookie!!! Only received house arrest - hmmmm.

If she was sentenced similar to past "leaving the scene of the crime" incidents, then this just further justifies my opinion of Florida's justice system.

 

[CathrynRose]

That seems a bit harsh. I moved here from Massachusetts last year and it seems that there was a lot of stupidity up there too.

BTW, when you find the perfect place, please let the rest of us know about it.

Seriously - look up Florida's crime's and the punishment that followed. I think you'd be suprised.

 

[RitaZ.]

But isn't that kind of the point? I mean, a woman who looks like that should not have a problem finding partners.... don't you think?

Honestly, it makes me feel even creepier about her to know that for whatever reason, she needed to go cruising amongst the 7th grade PE class. There just has to be something seriously wrong with the lady.

TB, precisely what I have thought.

 

[CathrynRose]

I have seen many hardworking and honest individuals slandered by local news, like Judge Greer and the judge compelled to release Joseph Smith

Youre defending the judge that allowed Joseph Smith to go free to rape and murder a girl just a short time after?!?!? He *should* be slandered!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-17-florida-murder_x.htm

 

[RitaZ.]

I love how, simply b/c the victim is a boy, he "wanted" it and "enjoyed" it.

Yes, the double-standard is very much alive.

 

[sodaseller]

Youre defending the judge that allowed Joseph Smith to go free to rape and murder a girl just a short time after?!?!? He *should* be slandered!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-17-florida-murder_x.htm

And it would be slander, becuse he absolutely followed the law. But don't let that keep you from from grabbing a pitchfork and torch

 

[CathrynRose]

And it would be slander, becuse he absolutely followed the law. But don't let that keep you from from grabbing a pitchfork and torch

Yeah, youre right. He followed the law and had the authority to make a decision otherwise BUT chose not to - and now Carlie Brucia is dead, and was also raped before she was killed.

Oh well.