Flight Plan ??? (SPOILER! Don't read if you haven't seen it!)

[Barb D]

I just watched the movie...
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Highlight starting here --> If the real bad guy intented to kill the "hijacker", how did he expect to collect the money? If the "hijacker" was dead, wouldn't the money be returned? I didn't catch that. (Or was the motive just to blow up the plane?) <--to here

 

[RyMickey]

Once again...spoilers below
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I saw it in theaters, but I think this could be the answer: Even though he was going to kill Jodie Foster, the money would've been wired to an account that he would've been able to access. Sure, Foster would've been dead, but the money would've still been in the account.

Let's be honest, though, with this movie I specifically remember Roger Ebert's review which went something like this: "When you walk out of the theater, you'll walk out liking Flightplan. However, on the drive home, you'll start to question what you saw (and not in a good way). Things just don't seem to fit together, but while you're watching it, it's a fun ride."

 

[Barb D]

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So once the money was wired it was irretrievable by those who sent it? Wouldn't they have tried to get it back? I guess I don't understand how money wiring worked.

And while we're spoiling, who WERE those guys looking in the window at the beginning? The guy she accused on the plane wasn't arrested at the end, so was he not involved after all?

 

[RyMickey]

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Yes, I think you're right in that once the money gets wired to an overseas account, it cannot be gotten back.

As for the guys at the window, I guess they weren't involved (although I have to be honest, I don't really remember how they were related to the whole story).

Sorry for the delay in response!

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Pretty cool....
This has nothing to do with the movie but I think your spoiler protection is great!

 

[cruisnfamily]

This is a spoiler thread so I can say what I want, right? Warning:spoilers to follow.
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.I watched this last night. I thought I had it figured out from the beginning~her dd was dead all along I figured she imagined her being on the plane, so the twist at the end really was a twist. What I didn't get was how incredibly lucky the bad guy was that nobody saw the little girl on the plane, what are the chances of that? And also, how did they change the passenger manifest? I know the one attendant was in on it but would she have that kind of power? And how'd they supposedly have a death certificate? Who told the pilot that? There were some confusing details.

One thing that wasn't clear....this bad guy picked her husband and killed him on purpose knowing that she'd transport his body on an airplane and he could store explosives in it? How'd he get the explosives in the casket anyway? I know they said they picked her because of her knowledge of the plane making her a believable hijacker but the rest of it doesn't fit AT ALL.

I did like the movie though!

 

[disneyred]

This is a spoiler thread so I can say what I want, right? Warning:spoilers to follow.
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.I watched this last night. I thought I had it figured out from the beginning~her dd was dead all along I figured she imagined her being on the plane, so the twist at the end really was a twist. What I didn't get was how incredibly lucky the bad guy was that nobody saw the little girl on the plane, what are the chances of that? And also, how did they change the passenger manifest? I know the one attendant was in on it but would she have that kind of power? And how'd they supposedly have a death certificate? Who told the pilot that? There were some confusing details.

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I would really like to hear the answers to these questions !!
anyone ??

 

[RyMickey]

You're right in that the guy was "incredibly lucky" that no one saw the girl. If I remember correctly, though, I think that the coroner was involved in the thing somehow. I could be completely wrong about this, but I think that's how they got the stuff in the casket.

 

[Barb D]

The funeral guy was in on it. There was a comment near the end about how he had been arrested.

After I posted this I read the huge long spoiler thread on IMDB. Most of the comments there were about the gaping plot holes (why didn't anybody see the girl on the plane, how did they get her into the food cart when they were kidnapping her, etc.)

 

[RUDisney]

Once a wire transfer clerk clicks on 'send' the money is gone. There is no way, internationally or domestically, that the money can be returned, unless the person who owns the account willingly gives it back. That's why there are multiple verifications on account numbers, routing numbers and amounts before the final wire is sent.

(I spent yesterday and today updating a wire transfer software package... so I'm in the know.)

 

[AnaheimGirl]

One reason "no one" saw the girl was because she bent down to pick up one of those wing pins (or something) from the floor as others were getting on the plane. Sorry, it's been a while since I saw it in the theater but I remember than she was down on the floor. Wasn't the girl scared, too, at one point and Jodie Foster had her sort of wrapped up in her coat with her? I can't remember exactly when that was. Plus, the flight attendant who was in on it was the one who spent the most time in their section, so she was just lying about not seeing her. Ditto for the "air marshall" who was seated across the aisle from them. There was the other flight attendant who seemed to remember the girl, but then said she couldn't remember one way or the other.

That family in front of them -- the parents were so oblivious even to their own kids screaming, that I'm sure they wouldn't have noticed a sad, quiet child behind them. At the very end, too, I'm sure I caught one of those obnoxious kids saying something like "see, I told you there was a kid back there", and the dad responding something like "really?", like he hadn't heard the kid mention it before.

I don't think it's so unusual that no one would remember seeing her. I don't pay enough attention to fellow passengers to remember who was with whom, unless there is something about them that's noteworthy, and again, as quiet as she was, it's not like she was attracting gobs of attention, unlike those kids in front of her.

 

[KimR]

But even if did turn out that noone saw the girl, how could he count on that happening? I thought the whole plot was incredibly convoluted. Now, I realize it is 'just a movie' and I usually have no problem suspending disbelief and just enjoying a movie for what it is; however, this plotline was just too far out of the realm of possiblity, IMO.

 

[cruisnfamily]

But even if did turn out that noone saw the girl, how could he count on that happening? I thought the whole plot was incredibly convoluted. Now, I realize it is 'just a movie' and I usually have no problem suspending disbelief and just enjoying a movie for what it is; however, this plotline was just too far out of the realm of possiblity, IMO.

I agree! I think that was the point I was trying to make!

The funeral guy was in on it. There was a comment near the end about how he had been arrested.

You're right! I remember that now. That helps a lot!

Still too many holes for me though. I enjoyed it but it really wasn't very plausible.

 

[AnaheimGirl]

But even if did turn out that noone saw the girl, how could he count on that happening?

Yea, that's true, that's a good question. I'm sure they set it up so he was across the aisle, and he planted the wings for her to find, to keep her out of sight, but they got pretty darn lucky that no one noticed them get on the plane together.

 

[DawnCt1]

They were the first on, it was a huge plane and the family with the noisy kids was a major distraction. Having said all that however, I am really impressed with the disappearing words "highlight here to here". that was definately cool!

 

[luvflorida]

Let's be honest, though, with this movie I specifically remember Roger Ebert's review which went something like this: "When you walk out of the theater, you'll walk out liking Flightplan. However, on the drive home, you'll start to question what you saw (and not in a good way). Things just don't seem to fit together, but while you're watching it, it's a fun ride."

This is exactly how I felt! I watched this movie on DVD last night and it kept me intrigued to the very end. However, afterwards, I questioned a lot of what happened in the movie.

The biggest thing that bugged me was that NOBODY on the plane remembered seeing the little girl. Even if she was bending down and picking up a flight wing pin and she boarded first with her mother, it just seems that on a packed flight, someone would have remembered seeing the child. And she would have had to walk past other crew members, not just the stewardess who was in on the scheme. And why was there such a lull between the time that the mother and child boarded the plane and any other passengers got on?

And, like other people pointed out, someone would have seen the 'sky marshall' or stewardess taking the girl and putting her under the food cart, or whatever they used to take her away in.

And this doesn't really have anything to do with the plot, but did anyone notice the poor woman sitting in her seat crying hysterically because she couldn't seem to get the oxygen mask on? Everyone around her either has their mask on or is putting one on. That scene just made me feel so bad for her! Someone help the lady, please! Oh well, art of the motion picture, I guess!

 

[beattyfamily]

This movie had a lot of plot holes, IMHO.

What bugged me the most, though, was that she saw those 2 men looking at her and then they are on the plane, yet no explanation?? What's up with that? Weird.

Even though it had so many holes in it, I enjoyed watching it but on the way home, I had more questions then answers.

 

[HOGFAN]

what I thought was really incredible was : how could the hijackers count on the mother sleeping in another aisle. if she had stayed in her seat, they couldnt have gotten to the girl.
I think JF imagined the guys in the window just as she imagined her husband after he died.

 

[luvflorida]

what I thought was really incredible was : how could the hijackers count on the mother sleeping in another aisle. if she had stayed in her seat, they couldnt have gotten to the girl.

That's true, I never really thought about that, as far as the hijackers plans. However, I thought the same thing about the mother sleeping in one set of seats and the daughter sleeping in another set of seats. The second the mother suggested to her daughter that they could move further back and stretch out more, I knew it was a bad idea! I just don't think the mother would have left her daughter that vulnerable.

 

[Barb D]

what I thought was really incredible was : how could the hijackers count on the mother sleeping in another aisle. if she had stayed in her seat, they couldnt have gotten to the girl.
I think JF imagined the guys in the window just as she imagined her husband after he died.

The sky marshall suggested the back seats to the mother. I guess he assumed she'd take him up on the suggestion. I know someone drugged the little girl; I wonder if the mother was also drugged beyond the sleeping pills she'd already taken.

I watched the movie again, and really payed attention to the scenes where other people "could" have seen the little girl (when people were boarding, sitting in seats, etc.) and I never saw her. She was behind the mother and below the level of the seats. They didn't show when the mother and daughter changed seats, but maybe by then everyone was sleeping.

I'm guessing the sky marshall may have had a Plan B in case anyone had seen her, though. Although he obviously didn't have every eventuallity coveredl; he didn't count on the mom INSISTING on talking to the pilot when the crew was deboarding.