Fixed week calander?

[sweetdana]

My points are loaded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dean]

IMO the fixed week IS the way to go as long as the number of points fits. Even if one doesn't plan to use it, better to buy a fixed week as long as it's around the number of points wanted. IMO giving up the option of having multiple smaller contracts grouped together would be a small price to pay.

Week 1 will always be the first Sunday of the Calendar year (For DVC) and in any year where it would not be, an extra week is thrown in as week zero or 53 to move the week one back to the first of that day of the year.

There are strategies to benefit for reallocations or season changes where the points are lower than the total for a given fixed week. They're pretty obvious so no reason to go into them here.

 

[sweetdana]

IMO the fixed week IS the way to go as long as the number of points fits. Even if one doesn't plan to use it, better to buy a fixed week as long as it's around the number of points wanted. IMO giving up the option of having multiple smaller contracts grouped together would be a small price to pay.

Week 1 will always be the first Sunday of the Calendar year (For DVC) and in any year where it would not be, an extra week is thrown in as week zero or 53 to move the week one back to the first of that day of the year.

There are strategies to benefit for reallocations or season changes where the points are lower than the total for a given fixed week. They're pretty obvious so no reason to go into them here.

It is actually about 90 -110 points more than I would have purchased without the option; however for resale later, I believe owning week 52 will make up the difference. I feel a plan of renting every other year out, (or points), will work in my favor.

 

[Dean]

It is actually about 90 -110 points more than I would have purchased without the option; however for resale later, I believe owning week 52 will make up the difference. I feel a plan of renting every other year out, (or points), will work in my favor.

I doubt it'll work well financially but it may lessen the impact overall. This would seem to be one of those situations where value and cost might diverge. If that's what you want and this is a way to get it in a controlled fashion, it could be appropriate for the right person. However, I don't feel one will buy week 51 or 52 retail and make money by renting it out long term.

 

[dcfromva]

My points are loaded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are your points a June UY like you were expecting?

 

[BirdsOfPreyDave]

I wonder what happens if you want to check out on the 1st and only use part of your fixed week? I'm guessing you have to either use the whole week or convert to points?

Correct. If you don't want to use your fixed week exactly as pre-scheduled, you need to opt out of it and re-book using the points. That puts you in the same booking window as all other PVB owners for the re-booking, and you'd be competing with everyone else to book those nights again.

The same cancellation rules apply as with other DVC bookings. (Holding account if cancelled 1-30 days from check in, forfeiture of points if a no show for a reservation, and no refund of points if you check out early.)

 

[CarolMN]

That seems like a pretty sweet deal. I can't see a downside.

I can but it depends on the week you bought.

If you decide to give up your VGF fixed week, aren't you then competing with the rest of the VGF owners to book at 11 months? If, for example, you gave up a studio week in the last 6 weeks of the year, you might not get your week back!

If you give up a summer week (or other week that isn't in a time considered to be high demand) - well I would wonder why you bought a fixed week for that time in the first place. You would have paid quite a premium just to save the few minutes it takes to book a week online when your window opens.

 

[foreUT]

Purchasing a VGF fixed week has been my best DVC decision. I get the villa, view and week I want without having to worry about competition.

If fixed weeks were offered at the other resorts, then I would only own fixed week contracts. Our travel schedule is quite regular and, to me, the 10% extra is worth hassle free booking.

My points are loaded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't know what to think. Just told by Guide that my Aug UY would not get the 2014 points, if I bought a December Fixed Week. Then, he said I would have no points until December (or, it seemed like that is what he said; I was still flabbergasted from the "no 2014 points" comment when he said that.) I am wondering if he is just not that savvy about Fixed Weeks or I am totally wrong on how DVC handles FW. I have another timeshare FW with a point system and I thought there had to be a 12-month window for FW and 2015 would not provide that window for PVB purchases. Just completely confused over this, since I understood the premium you pay in points (over what the first-come, first-serve reservations would be) was the price paid for a FW, not ignoring that I am buying during my 2014 UY and the points are related to that function in a point-based system.

Totally confused!

 

[SpaceMountain77]

Don't know what to think. Just told by Guide that my Aug UY would not get the 2014 points, if I bought a December Fixed Week. Then, he said I would have no points until December (or, it seemed like that is what he said; I was still flabbergasted from the "no 2014 points" comment when he said that.) I am wondering if he is just not that savvy about Fixed Weeks or I am totally wrong on how DVC handles FW. I have another timeshare FW with a point system and I thought there had to be a 12-month window for FW and 2015 would not provide that window for PVB purchases. Just completely confused over this, since I understood the premium you pay in points (over what the first-come, first-serve reservations would be) was the price paid for a FW, not ignoring that I am buying during my 2014 UY and the points are related to that function in a point-based system.

Totally confused!

PVB opens April 1, 2015. As a fixed-week owner, you soon will be receiving a booking confirmation for your December 2015 reservation. You would not receive 2014 points for a week that was unavailable for booking.

Based on my previous experience with VGF, the resort opening date and fixed week determined the first booking and allocation of points.

 

[foreUT]

PVB opens April 1, 2015. As a fixed-week owner, you soon will be receiving a booking confirmation for your December 2015 reservation. You would not receive 2014 points for a week that was unavailable for booking.

Based on my previous experience with VGF, the resort opening date and fixed week determined the first booking and allocation of points.

Thanks for the response. Waiting for Quality Assurance to answer my questions!

ETA: Just got off phone w QA. Guide was incorrect. I do get the 2014 Aug uy points. YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SpaceMountain77]

Thanks for the response. Waiting for Quality Assurance to answer my questions!

ETA: Just got off phone w QA. Guide was incorrect. I do get the 2014 Aug uy points. YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How does that work? Were you given regular (floating week) 2014 points that can be used or banked? I am assuming that you are automatically opted out of the fixed-week for 2014 because the December reservation has passed.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

It is actually about 90 -110 points more than I would have purchased without the option; however for resale later, I believe owning week 52 will make up the difference. I feel a plan of renting every other year out, (or points), will work in my favor.

This is assuming you will be able to resell it as a fixed week. I haven't heard that confirmed anywhere. Do we know that it can be resold the same way?

 

[erionm]

This is assuming you will be able to resell it as a fixed week. I haven't heard that confirmed anywhere. Do we know that it can be resold the same way?

There has already been at least one VGF Fixed Week Resale that remained as a fixed week upon transfer to the new owner.

 

[wdrl]

This is assuming you will be able to resell it as a fixed week. I haven't heard that confirmed anywhere. Do we know that it can be resold the same way?

When a deed with the Fixed Week option is resold, the Fixed Week option and all of its rights and obligations transfers to the new owner. If the new owner intends to use the Fixed Week, then they follow the same rules as they apply to all Fixed Week owners. If the new owner has no intentions of using the Fixed Week and instead was merely buying the underlying points, they need to remember that they still have to opt out of the Fixed Week each and every year.

As erionm posted, there has been at least one VGF Fixed Week deed that was on the resale market.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

There has already been at least one VGF Fixed Week Resale that remained as a fixed week upon transfer to the new owner.

Wasn't it reported that the buyer could have chosen not to retain the fixed week portion? Or was it just that they had to decide about the upcoming reserved week. Might have been both actually.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Thanks guys. I must have missed that discussion thread.

Sounded like to me that it would have been a good opportunity to lay further restrictions on resales. I'm actually surprised they are letting it slide. I understand what you're saying about it being part of the original deed but once it's sold, I would argue that it is at Disney's discretion as to how they draw up the new deed. It would be interesting (to me) to see if there are legal requirements out there protecting the status of those points/deed as originally sold. If that's the case, how can they take away any benefits from resale buyers? Those too, were part of the original deed if that's the argument.

 

[CarolMN]

Is there a deadline to tell DVC that you are opting out of your fixed week reservation?

Can you keep your fixed week reservation and then wait until just a few days before the fixed week begins to opt out?

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Is there a deadline to tell DVC that you are opting out of your fixed week reservation?

Can you keep your fixed week reservation and then wait until just a few days before the fixed week begins to opt out?

There's a deadline. I can't remember what it is, but my (former) guide and I had that exact discussion the day GFV went up for sale. I remember talking about it but I don't remember the answer. I want to say it was 30 days.

 

[erionm]

If that's the case, how can they take away any benefits from resale buyers? Those too, were part of the original deed if that's the argument.

The benefits taken from resale purchasers are not guaranteed by your deed. DVD could take those away from all members if they felt it was in their best interest.

From the Member Benefits Guide posted on the member website:

DVD reserves the right to amend the terms and conditions of the Disney Travel Program at any time and without notice, in its sole
discretion. Further, DVD reserves the right to modify, supplement or terminate the Disney Travel Program at any time and without
notice, in its sole discretion, subject to the obligation on the part of DVD to honor reservations for Disney Accommodations
confirmed prior to termination. In the event the Disney Travel Program, or any portion thereof, becomes unavailable as a result of
events beyond DVD’s control, DVD reserves the right to substitute a replacement benefit of a type, quality, value and term
reasonably similar to the Disney Travel Program. Reservations at a DVC Resort shall be deemed conclusively to be reasonably
similar to unavailable Disney Travel Accommodations.

The Disney Travel Program as reference above includes the various options of the Disney Collection.

https://dvc.disney.go.com/media/dvc...itsguide/01-12-2015-Member-Benefits-Guide.pdf

 

[BirdsOfPreyDave]

Is there a deadline to tell DVC that you are opting out of your fixed week reservation?

Can you keep your fixed week reservation and then wait until just a few days before the fixed week begins to opt out?

It works the same as regular reservations. Cancel more than 30 days before check-in date to avoid holding account.