EXPIRED - Direct Sales Incentives - Summer 2020 - Expanded list!

[sethschroeder]

I'm betting on a spike in unemployment and an ongoing recession. The amount of stimulus that has been injected into the worldwide economy is massive and will be coming to an end.
Not sure why you think there is a terrible chance that better discounts come in 2021 just because of sales data from August.

Metrics have likely been redefined for reduced sales, they don't have any WDW resort under construction or nearing completion that they need to rip through RIV to get it sold out, and 95% of the population is not taking any or very minimal trips in all of 2020/possibly first half of 2021 which means there is an extra ordinary amount of saved discretionary funds for middle/upper class families when they start filing back in to WDW over the next 18 months (DVC seems to understand the long game right now based on things like resale restrictions but that can always change).

Also note that there have been multiple reports of "exciting" new membership benefits in the pipeline that we could see roll out. Which lines up with doubling down on benefits or soft value vs giving away actual cash.

Finally I am just not sure how much more they really would sell if they did even an extra $5-$10/point discount for the 125+ points. If they are raising prices now it seems they don't think doing additional discounts will be that beneficial.

I am not sure why you are betting on a spike in unemployment when the reality is people are still coming back from government mandated shutdowns at this point which will fight increases in unemployment. You will also notice much of the unemployment currently is stemming from those under 25 years of age which is double that of those over 25.

https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea10.htm
You will also notice a vastly larger number of temporary job loss than normal times as well:
https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea11.htm
This temporary job loss can turn in to permanent, it can turn in to being brought back then let go, or they can be called back to work.

 

[TinkB278]

Does anyone have any possible guesses on what these new direct owner benefits could possibly be?

 

[sethschroeder]

Does anyone have any possible guesses on what these new direct owner benefits could possibly be?

No one has a clue other than complete guesses from what I have come across. Some have rumored that they will go in place with the 125 point increase. So maybe a information leak prior to the end of the month.

 

[Ruttangel]

Does anyone have any possible guesses on what these new direct owner benefits could possibly be?

Cant see them being AP related if this comes out before AP sales restart.
in that case, it must be more free ice cream!

 

[TinkB278]

No one has a clue other than complete guesses from what I have come across. Some have rumored that they will go in place with the 125 point increase. So maybe a information leak prior to the end of the month.

I just can’t decide if I want to buy direct before the prices go up on 9/16. I was pretty set on going resale but now this throws a wrench into things. I hope a leak comes before 9/16...

 

[EYL]

I just can’t decide if I want to buy direct before the prices go up on 9/16. I was pretty set on going resale but now this throws a wrench into things. I hope a leak comes before 9/16...

Stall...? Schedule for a video tour for the last day, then the offer is still good until 9/23 (7 days later). Put a down payment on that day and you have at least 10 days afterwards to rescind? That takes you to October 3rd (Saturday), which I hope information will be forthcoming from DVC by then...

 

[sethschroeder]

I just can’t decide if I want to buy direct before the prices go up on 9/16. I was pretty set on going resale but now this throws a wrench into things. I hope a leak comes before 9/16...

Are you going with RIV/CCV/AUL or with a sold out resort?

I would just outline the contract you want, do the down payment, don't sign the contract when it comes over that way the 10 day cancellation period doesn't start and you can buy more time.

There is zero requirement to sign the contract the moment it comes over and just taking a tour isn't going to do anything for you if your sold out resort is a waitlist, the longer you wait to price increases and the 100 to 125 direct increase the more likely of waitlists occuring on places like SSR, OKW, AKV if they don't already have a waitlist.

 

[becauseimnew]

Are you going with RIV/CCV/AUL or with a sold out resort?

I would just outline the contract you want, do the down payment, don't sign the contract when it comes over that way the 10 day cancellation period doesn't start and you can buy more time.

There is zero requirement to sign the contract the moment it comes over and just taking a tour isn't going to do anything for you if your sold out resort is a waitlist, the longer you wait to price increases and the 100 to 125 direct increase the more likely of waitlists occuring on places like SSR, OKW, AKV if they don't already have a waitlist.

I talked to my guide yesterday, they don’t have October AKL points available, but do have April.

 

[Lorana]

I talked to my guide yesterday, they don’t have October AKL points available, but do have April.

If they have April, they can have October, because Disney can change the UY. Ask him to put you on the waitlist for Oct UY if that’s what you really want.

 

[jccarney]

So I’m planning on purchasing 100 direct points of OKW or AKL. Since there is not a current discount for new members would it be better to see what the new member benefits will be or go ahead and buy before the 16th. AP discount is my main reason for buying direct.

 

[becauseimnew]

So I’m planning on purchasing 100 direct points of OKW or AKL. Since there is not a current discount for new members would it be better to see what the new member benefits will be or go ahead and buy before the 16th. AP discount is my main reason for buying direct.

I would probably buy closer to the 16th, because I think you have 10 days to back out just in case new offers are available (not that I think that's going to happen).

 

[TinkB278]

Are you going with RIV/CCV/AUL or with a sold out resort?

I would just outline the contract you want, do the down payment, don't sign the contract when it comes over that way the 10 day cancellation period doesn't start and you can buy more time.

There is zero requirement to sign the contract the moment it comes over and just taking a tour isn't going to do anything for you if your sold out resort is a waitlist, the longer you wait to price increases and the 100 to 125 direct increase the more likely of waitlists occuring on places like SSR, OKW, AKV if they don't already have a waitlist.

If I went direct I’d go RIV. Otherwise I’m just planning on buying AKV resale. I can’t justify paying direct prices on an AKV direct.

 

[Sandisw]

If they have April, they can have October, because Disney can change the UY. Ask him to put you on the waitlist for Oct UY if that’s what you really want.

But they will not sell without current UY points. Since April is in its 2020 UY but October is 2019, changing it only works if the April UY had 2019 points, which it does not because that UY has ended,

 

[GivemetheDreamFinder]

No one has a clue other than complete guesses from what I have come across. Some have rumored that they will go in place with the 125 point increase. So maybe a information leak prior to the end of the month.

Thats what im thinking. Our guide definitely drived that home when we were talking. Luckily we went for 150.

 

[sethschroeder]

I would probably buy closer to the 16th, because I think you have 10 days to back out just in case new offers are available (not that I think that's going to happen).

Anyone wanting the current incentives or wanting in before the 100 points should really be buying now. Put your down payment down and then just don't sign the contract.

That is what I would be doing. The longer you wait the more likely they end up pushing you in to wait lists. Everyone should make up their own decision but the 10 day cancellation verbiage is in the contract you have to sign I think it states something about once you sign. I had done that previously and then backed out like 13 days later (5 days after signing) with no issues.

 

[sethschroeder]

If I went direct I’d go RIV. Otherwise I’m just planning on buying AKV resale. I can’t justify paying direct prices on an AKV direct.

You can wait until the last minute then since they will 100% have RIV points for you make sure to give them 3 days though just to avoid any issues. I know last year people waited until the last day and had issues because they called so late in the afternoon.

 

[dreamit]

I finally called to inquire about purchasing direct. I’ve been following the resale threads, as I’ve been looking to purchase 230-250 points resale for use at Aulani and WDW. Now I’m considering 100 points direct at OKW and then resale for the remaining points. I’ve been going back and forth for weeks. Given we’re not local and my DH only accompanies my DD and me every other year to WDW, I don’t think we’ll come out ahead with any Gold Pass savings; however, I think I’ll always feel a twinge if I only hold resale points. It’s so dumb, but I think of being at Aulani seeing members with their sparkly wristbands, and it’d make me feel like my membership was less valuable (which, in a way, would be true). It’s emotional versus logical.

In any case, I want to share the guide told me that they are in specific UYs for selling the sold-out resorts. Currently, that UY is April. She said she needs to get an exception approval to sell a different UY, but did not make it sound like that would be an issue. I imagine given the guideline, they’re pushing April. Too, she mentioned they’ve been selling a lot of SSR resort as of late.

 

[Where'sPiglet?]

I finally called to inquire about purchasing direct. I’ve been following the resale threads, as I’ve been looking to purchase 230-250 points resale for use at Aulani and WDW. Now I’m considering 100 points direct at OKW and then resale for the remaining points. I’ve been going back and forth for weeks. Given we’re not local and my DH only accompanies my DD and me every other year to WDW, I don’t think we’ll come out ahead with any Gold Pass savings; however, I think I’ll always feel a twinge if I only hold resale points. It’s so dumb, but I think of being at Aulani seeing members with their sparkly wristbands, and it’d make me feel like my membership was less valuable (which, in a way, would be true). It’s emotional versus logical.

In any case, I want to share the guide told me that they are in specific UYs for selling the sold-out resorts. Currently, that UY is April. She said she needs to get an exception approval to sell a different UY, but did not make it sound like that would be an issue. I imagine given the guideline, they’re pushing April. Too, she mentioned they’ve been selling a lot of SSR resort as of late.

So do only blue card members get sparkly wristbands? Resale gets not-sparkly?

Why would you choose OKW over Aulani for your direct points?

 

[dreamit]

So do only blue card members get sparkly wristbands? Resale gets not-sparkly?

Why would you choose OKW over Aulani for your direct points?

It‘s my understanding you need to show your blue card to get the sparkly wristbands, along with other discounts and benefits while at Aulani. I feel like a 5yo as I whine about non-sparkly wristbands.

I do consider purchasing Aulani resale points. Given what’s going on in Hawaii right now, it doesn’t feel as “safe” as purchasing a WDW resort, at least not until COVID is a thing of the past. Also the MFs on non-subsidized Aulani are high. Too, while I’d like to think I can make it it Aulani every other year, that’s unlikely.

My 14 yo DD and I do visit WDW once a year, sometimes twice. I have adult children who come into play on some visits, but who knows what the future will bring. I did manage to get in three trips on an AP this past year. I guess I’m looking at OKW for the direct points because of cost—it’s easier to swallow the OKW spread between resale and direct points. If using the points at WDW vs. Aulani, I’d probably try to use them as SAP on visits where I’m looking at studios—ideally at Poly. If wanting a bigger villa, OKW looks appealing for point charts and room size. For the resale points, I wouldn’t necessarily stick with OKW. Maybe there’s a flaw in my thought process?

 

[disneykim17]

I just can’t decide if I want to buy direct before the prices go up on 9/16. I was pretty set on going resale but now this throws a wrench into things. I hope a leak comes before 9/16...

WIll the direct prices go up on the sold out DVC as well?