Expedition Everest Line

[jpolak]

I guess that's what progress looks like.

 

[PatMcDuck]

Honestly, I'm very interested to know if ALL of those people in-line are actually within their FP+ window or not. On our last visit, we encountered a lot of people standing in the FP+ line, only to find out that they were only waiting for their FP+ window to open.

I will take it one step further……. if there is a 1/2 hour line for FP+ returns, outside the first scanner, I would consider hopping on that line 1/2 hour BEFORE my return time, so that I would hit the first scanner shortly after my actual return time.

Which would be a bummer for people who do not even get on the end of line until their window. Sorry, it would just seem to make sense to me; and would not happen if the lines were under control.

 

[o0quirkygirl0o]

I will take it one step further……. if there is a 1/2 hour line for FP+ returns, outside the first scanner, I would consider hopping on that line 1/2 hour BEFORE my return time, so that I would hit the first scanner shortly after my actual return time.

Which would be a bummer for people who do not even get on the end of line until their window. Sorry, it would just seem to make sense to me; and would not happen if the lines were under control.

Conversely, what if you waited until the last 10 minutes of your window to ride with your FP+ (which DH and I frequently did back in October)? If you hit that line with only 10 minutes to go, wouldn't your FP+ run out before you ever hit the tapstyle? I can tell you how angry that would have make me.

How would you even know that sort of line was happening until you were right up on it? There isn't a line app for FP+ lines. Wait, maybe that is the next thing Disney will roll out! Bleh.

 

[lugnut33]

I'm sorry, I just don't get anybody who thinks this is an acceptable situation.

 

[Mom2Stitch]

I think the fact that they have made available signs marking where some of the extended FP lines actually begin says a lot in itself. If these were isolated incidents there would be no signs. A CM for an unexpected problem would be sent over to help the guests locate the end of the line. But to have ride specific signs all ready to grab and go says this is happening often enough that they are prepared for it.

You are exactly right. Where is management in this mess? Leaving it up to the CM to deal with? How many of those people in that line complained to the CM or guest services?

Another poster made mention the FP does not=walk on. That is true, but it also shouldn't mean standing in a line like that. It never meant that before.

I will take it one step further……. if there is a 1/2 hour line for FP+ returns, outside the first scanner, I would consider hopping on that line 1/2 hour BEFORE my return time, so that I would hit the first scanner shortly after my actual return time.

Which would be a bummer for people who do not even get on the end of line until their window. Sorry, it would just seem to make sense to me; and would not happen if the lines were under control.

I was thinking this very same thing. What's more is you are encouraged to plan, plan, plan. So I made those plans--I have FP 1,2,3 and those are situated around show schedules and ADRs. If I get to FP #1 and the line is like that, it very possibly messes with the rest of my schedule.

If the back up is at the scanners, why can't that CM that's walking around holding a line sign have some type of hand scanner instead? When it's not so busy, sure use the stationary scanners. But when it gets like that why couldn't the CM have a scanner to get everyone into the que quicker? The CM would be trained and would know how to get the mickey's lined up much quicker than the guest. If there were a screen of some sort on the scanner they could also see that the FP+ was or was not valid at the time.

I truly believe that FP+ can work, they just have to think about it another way and fix it sooner rather than later.

 

[Love Tink]

Count the smiles.

 

[MisterPat]

I only see about 7 trains worth of riders in that line. Granted there are probably more inside, past the first scanner. But still, it takes about 4 minutes for 7 trains to run.

I have been inside of Space Mountai with the legac FP's forover a half hour in line. I don't see this as any different, other than the fact that the majority of the lines are no visible.

 

[lugnut33]

I only see about 7 trains worth of riders in that line. Granted there are probably more inside, past the first scanner. But still, it takes about 4 minutes for 7 trains to run.

I have been inside of Space Mountai with the legac FP's forover a half hour in line. I don't see this as any different, other than the fact that the majority of the lines are no visible.

Does it make sense to you that the line should be outside in the exposed weather and taking up a walkway?

And honestly, I've been during the height of Christmas and have never seen the FP line for Everest that long. NEVER!

 

[2Tiggies]

Does it make sense to you that the line should be outside in the exposed weather and taking up a walkway?

And honestly, I've been during the height of Christmas and have never seen the FP line for Everest that long. NEVER!

Done Easter weekend twice (one of those days happened to be at AK) and never saw lines like that anywhere either. Ever.

 

[JimmyV]

I only see about 7 trains worth of riders in that line. Granted there are probably more inside, past the first scanner. But still, it takes about 4 minutes for 7 trains to run.

Not sure how the "real" math works, but I got in a line that looked just like that and my timed wait was 23 minutes.

IIRC, each train holds 36 people. They are probably pulling 4 or 5 out of the single rider line. Let's assume 32 FP people per train. 7 trains of people = 224 people, and that assumes that 7 consecutive trains take FP people only without a single SB person boarding. (And if that is true, we have a whole other problem to discuss). Each Mickey tap has to be held for a count of 3 to get the light to turn green. And then you have to account for the misfires, and the time in between people. There are tapstiles on two sides, but they do not allow people to use them smoothly two-by-two. So assume that even with doubling up, it will require 150 individual touches (some simultaneous and some not) to get past the Mickey. And assume that the average time to tap plus the interval between people is 5 seconds, (Very aggressive, actually). That comes to 5 seconds x 150 people = 750 seconds. It would take 12 and a half minutes just to get 224 people past the Green Gate Keeper. And you haven't even gotten to the second Mickey yet.

 

[Love Tink]

I only see about 7 trains worth of riders in that line. Granted there are probably more inside, past the first scanner. But still, it takes about 4 minutes for 7 trains to run.

I have been inside of Space Mountai with the legac FP's forover a half hour in line. I don't see this as any different, other than the fact that the majority of the lines are no visible.

Okay, A) Expedition Everest is almost three minutes long...just the ride (not including boarding and the safety check). I didn't take BC Calculus, but I'm pretty sure 7 trains in 4 minutes isn't right.

B) Having a FP line get unexpectedly held up once you are in it is vastly different from arriving for your "locked in" experience - one of three you got to schedule for the day - and being told you have to walk 80 yards to the end of the line before you can even enter the building. It's frustrating in an entirely different way.

And if you waited 30 minutes in the FP line for Space Mountain in the past and then complained to a CM I bet they would have given you an anytime FP. Because that would have been a weird occurrence. Now it's the New Normal.

 

[Jupiter]

Good poll question (if it hasn't already been asked):

What do you think is the longest acceptable FP return wait?

 

[rustyfla]

So my friend shows me this youtube video of the Expedition Everest Fastpass+ line so long it goes by Finding Nemo!

Expedition Everest Line Line

That video was taken this month on the 13th
Can anyone tell me why it was like that or if it is still like that these days?

I just got back yesterday from a week at Disney.
Went on Everest on Wed, without a fastpass and the wait was 50 minutes.
Went around noon and this was spring break time so the park was packed.
I think the line just looks longer, but moves pretty quick.

 

[MattRyan]

When I went in August the lines were nothing like this, but there were only a handful of us testing. Had it been like this back in August I may not have gave FP+ such a warm reception, yikes.

 

[2Tiggies]

Good poll question (if it hasn't already been asked):

What do you think is the longest acceptable FP return wait?

If you start one, consider giving different options for inside queuing and outside queuing. Honestly I can deal with 10 minutes on the inside line much better than on the outside in the blazing sun or pouring rain.

 

[MichelleVW]

We were there the same week as the video and although we saw one or two really long Fast Pass lines we thankfully we never hit any of them. We didn't go to AK that day but we went the next day with a Fast Pass for EE about 4:00 and we didn't wait at all.

We never had any long waits for anything that week.

 

[amg35]

So my friend shows me this youtube video of the Expedition Everest Fastpass+ line so long it goes by Finding Nemo!

Expedition Everest Line Line

That video was taken this month on the 13th
Can anyone tell me why it was like that or if it is still like that these days?

Holy cannoli!!!

Eww....

When I've said I'm fine with a line...that's not what I meant!

 

[chapie1968]

So my friend shows me this youtube video of the Expedition Everest Fastpass+ line so long it goes by Finding Nemo!

Expedition Everest Line Line

That video was taken this month on the 13th
Can anyone tell me why it was like that or if it is still like that these days?

Don't worry, all the FP+ lovong hacks will tell you that FP+ is not having negative impact on line wait, either FP or stand by ....

 

[chapie1968]

I only see about 7 trains worth of riders in that line.

I think you may have a problem with math.

 

[amg35]

I think you may have a problem with math.

Did you actually create a username and just join a Disney board to bash people who like fast pass +?