Ever flown in a 737 Max 8?

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What was your experience like? Was it a noticeably quiet ride in terms of engine noise, as some have reported? My son has extreme sound sensitivity due to an ear disorder, and I'm trying to choose a route that is usually serviced by quieter planes (specifically trying to avoid the always loud 737-800). I've read that the 737 Max 8 is relatively quiet, and if we fly in & out of Miami we'll probably be on one of those. I could alternatively choose a route that is usually serviced by an Airbus, which is also on the quieter side, but Miami would work better logistically if the 737 Max 8 is a good plane for those with sensitive ears. Anyone flown one of these?

ETA: Please answer on topic as to your own experience on the 737 Max 8. Thanks!
 
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We flew one from PHL to MCO on July 2, 2021, and it didn't have the insistent buzzing. The seats were hard, tables smaller but there did seem to be more seat room.
 
Get him noise cancelling Bose headphones. Worth their weight in gold.
Those are problematic in themselves because of the pressure their own sound waves place on sensitive ears (they make their own sound that tricks the brain into not hearing other sounds, but the sound pressure is being exerted on the ears regardless). So that's not a solution for us, unfortunately. He will have headphones that use passive noise reduction.
 
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I can't help answer your question, but I wouldn't assume that any given flight will be on a specific airframe. Sure, the airline might plan route A to B to be on a Max 8, but the actual aircraft could come down with a mechanical issue forcing an equipment change.
 
I can't help answer your question, but I wouldn't assume that any given flight will be on a specific airframe. Sure, the airline might plan route A to B to be on a Max 8, but the actual aircraft could come down with a mechanical issue forcing an equipment change.
But when the schedule shows every single flight of the day between two cities using a given airplane, which is the case here, it seems very likely that you'll get that airplane, because they'd probably switch out another of the same model if there was a mechanical issue. Nothing is guaranteed, but it's a pretty good bet.
 
What was your experience like? Was it a noticeably quiet ride in terms of engine noise, as some have reported? My son has extreme sound sensitivity due to an ear disorder, and I'm trying to choose a route that is usually serviced by quieter planes (specifically trying to avoid the always loud 737-800). I've read that the 737 Max 8 is relatively quiet, and if we fly in & out of Miami we'll probably be on one of those. I could alternatively choose a route that is usually serviced by an Airbus, which is also on the quieter side, but Miami would work better logistically if the 737 Max 8 is a good plane for those with sensitive ears. Anyone flown one of these?

Airbus narrow-bodies are not quieter in fact, they use the same engines. On the older A32X & 737's it is the CFM 5A/5B. On the Max and NEO it is the CFM-LEAP engine. No idea where you got that conclusion from. Either the MAX or NEO will work for you due to the newer engine. Also planes can be swapped at any time between schedule changes and maintenance. Do not buy a ticket for a short-haul flight on the assumption you will be on a guaranteed aircraft type, unless the airline only operates one type.

If your son's ear disorder is that severe, it may be better to drive to avoid subjecting him to pressure changes
 
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Airbus narrow-bodies are not quieter in fact, they use the same engines. On the older A32X & 737's it is the CFM 5A/5B. On the Max and NEO it is the CFM-LEAP engine. No idea where you got that conclusion from. Either the MAX or NEO will work for you due to the newer engine. Also planes can be swapped at any time between schedule changes and maintenance. Do not buy a ticket for a short-haul flight on the assumption you will be on a guaranteed aircraft type, unless the airline only operates one type.

If your son's ear disorder is that severe, it may be better to drive to avoid subjecting him to pressure changes
In fact, if you're sound sensitive the A320 family are much louder because the sound is much busier - their hydraulic systems make terrible noises throughout the flight. Also, the floor squeaks in the A320 family when somebody walks on it, on every one I've been on - issues you don't have on the 737NG.

If you want a really quiet aircraft, get into the 787 Dreamliner, Airbus A350, Boeing 777 ... in that order. Yes, the 737-MAX family is quieter than previous gen 737's, but all narrowbodies are still noisy aircraft.

And don't discount the Bose headsets - while they do put out an inverse wave to cancel out the heard noise, at the sort of SPLs and wave characteristics you see in jet turbines, they actually do reduce SPL substantially. The Bose commercial headsets are just offshoots of their armored vehicle headsets, in use since the 1980's, that reduced the hearing loss in armored units to almost nothing; ditto with the aviation headsets worn by flight crew. They are literally designed just for aircraft, and performance outside of that environment is not indicative of performance in that environment. But, if you'd rather not risk $300 on a headset, then get some hearing protection - I recommend either 3M Pelnor or visiting a gun store.
 
Airbus narrow-bodies are not quieter in fact, they use the same engines. On the older A32X & 737's it is the CFM 5A/5B. On the Max and NEO it is the CFM-LEAP engine. No idea where you got that conclusion from. Either the MAX or NEO will work for you due to the newer engine. Also planes can be swapped at any time between schedule changes and maintenance. Do not buy a ticket for a short-haul flight on the assumption you will be on a guaranteed aircraft type, unless the airline only operates one type.

If your son's ear disorder is that severe, it may be better to drive to avoid subjecting him to pressure changes
Driving isn't an option.

I know from dozens of flights on both types of planes that the Airbus 321 is quieter than the Boeing 737-800. Here is an article in which decibel levels in different cabins were measured, and you'll see that there is indeed a wide variation between different narrowbodies, and that most 737s are among the loudest type.

Quiet Please: Which Aircraft Are the Quietest in the Sky?

There are other factors in an airplane's design that can effect noise besides engine type. There is also wide variation in sound level on the same plane depending on where you sit on the plane (front is quieter).

The 737-900 is relatively quiet, as well, but that's not consistently used on any of the routes we're looking at. As I indicated above, I'm considering a route that is always served by a 737 Max 8 (every flight of the day between the two cities is served by that plane), so it's very likely that we'd end up on that plane.
 
In fact, if you're sound sensitive the A320 family are much louder because the sound is much busier - their hydraulic systems make terrible noises throughout the flight. Also, the floor squeaks in the A320 family when somebody walks on it, on every one I've been on - issues you don't have on the 737NG.

If you want a really quiet aircraft, get into the 787 Dreamliner, Airbus A350, Boeing 777 ... in that order. Yes, the 737-MAX family is quieter than previous gen 737's, but all narrowbodies are still noisy aircraft.
The A230 family's intermittent noises are nothing compared to the deep, loud drone of the 737-800. We've flown on both types over a dozen times each, so really do know the difference in sound between the two. A floor squeaking is nothing compared to the high-decibel drone that the 737-800 makes. People without sound sensitivity probably block a lot of it out because it's such a constant sound, but for those with extreme sensitivity it is a constant problem.

I've flown in an A380, which are supposed to be very quiet, but didn't find it quiet at all. Perhaps because we were flying very fast or there was a lot of wind? The average A320 is quieter than the A380 we flew on.
 
The A230 family's intermittent noises are nothing compared to the deep, loud drone of the 737-800. We've flown on both types over a dozen times each, so really do know the difference in sound between the two. A floor squeaking is nothing compared to the high-decibel drone that the 737-800 makes. People without sound sensitivity probably block a lot of it out because it's such a constant sound, but for those with extreme sensitivity it is a constant problem.

I've flown in an A380, which are supposed to be very quiet, but didn't find it quiet at all. Perhaps because we were flying very fast or there was a lot of wind? The average A320 is quieter than the A380 we flew on.
I have sound sensitivity as well and can't tune out the aircraft noises, every single one gets processed, and peak sound pressure on an A320 throughout most of the cabin is 3-5 db higher than in a 737NG. Also, while I can reduce overall SPL level very easily, earplugs can cut 25-30 db, noise cancelling headphones can get 15-20 on the Boeing and 5-10 on an Airbus, the A320's constant throughout the flight electro-hydraulic systems turning on and off can't be effectively filtered. Seriously, if you just have straight SPL sensitivity, get earplugs from a gun shop. They're cheap, 100% effective, and anything that reduces the bark of .30-06 to hearing safe also reduces an airliner's SPL to the level of a library.

As for your A380, as in all aircraft, the overall sound pressure in the cabin depends significantly on where in the aircraft you are. "Flying very fast," and, "A lot of wind" do not impact the noise - jet airliners all travel at roughly the same airspeeds in cruise, and they do not travel relative to the ground, but relative to the air, so wind has zero impact. Overall SPL on an A380 is lower than on an A320 by quite a bit, but it depends where you are in each aircraft. Especially once you get aft of the engines, the noise climbs significantly (this is what the Boeing engine chevrons aim to reduce).

By far the quietest narrowbody aircraft I've flown in are the MD-80's and 717's in the first class cabins, because the engines are all in the back - in the back of the aircraft though, you have to scream your drink order at the FA's.

Generally speaking, from my experience with over 20 segments in each of these airframes, the quietest location on Boeing 737's are the back of first class/front of coach - the cockpit window and nose shapes dating from the 1950's, that generates fairly significant wind noise, but you're still fairly far forward of the engines. The A320 family, A330, A340, MD-80, MD-90, 717, 757, 767, 777, and 787 all are quieter the more forward in the cabin you are. On the 747, the upper deck or forward of the 1L boarding door on the main deck are your best bets, and the A380 is forward part of the second cabin on the upper deck.
 
Driving isn't an option.

I know from dozens of flights on both types of planes that the Airbus 321 is quieter than the Boeing 737-800. Here is an article in which decibel levels in different cabins were measured, and you'll see that there is indeed a wide variation between different narrowbodies, and that most 737s are among the loudest type.

Quiet Please: Which Aircraft Are the Quietest in the Sky?

There are other factors in an airplane's design that can effect noise besides engine type. There is also wide variation in sound level on the same plane depending on where you sit on the plane (front is quieter).

The 737-900 is relatively quiet, as well, but that's not consistently used on any of the routes we're looking at. As I indicated above, I'm considering a route that is always served by a 737 Max 8 (every flight of the day between the two cities is served by that plane), so it's very likely that we'd end up on that plane.

That study you linked too is flawed. They lumped the 737 classics (300/400/500) with the 737NG (700/800/900) and made no distinction between them which is incorrect.

But not to get to far off topic, which AA route are you flying? A schedule with all 737 MAX is simply a placeholder for now, but if you tell us the route we can assist you better.
 
Hoping to get some more responses to my actual query, which was people's experiences flying in a Boeing 737 Max 8.
 
Airbus narrow-bodies are not quieter in fact, they use the same engines. On the older A32X & 737's it is the CFM 5A/5B. On the Max and NEO it is the CFM-LEAP engine. No idea where you got that conclusion from. Either the MAX or NEO will work for you due to the newer engine. Also planes can be swapped at any time between schedule changes and maintenance. Do not buy a ticket for a short-haul flight on the assumption you will be on a guaranteed aircraft type, unless the airline only operates one type.

If your son's ear disorder is that severe, it may be better to drive to avoid subjecting him to pressure changes
You can try to predict what airplane you will be on, but I think it’s easier to try to sit well forward of the engines, and wear some comfortable ear protection.
 














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