EPCOT... UGH!!! DOUBLE UGH!!!!!!!!!!!

[Disneylover99]

Went to Epcot in July. Realized how hard it actually is to find a glass of wine!

I enjoy my wine in France or Germany.

 

[Jennasis]

You might have missed the US navy guy who got so drunk he attacked 3 CM's with a piece of PVC pipe.

It didn't happen while I was there.

 

[Jennasis]

Drunk people who drop the F-bomb without a care are likely also to be the type who'd drop the F-bomb without a care when sober.

 

[maxiesmom]

I do have to say I LUV THE JALEPENO MARGHARITA! <<<<--- emphasis

It is well known and understood all over the web that all caps is yelling. It isn't a Disboard thing. Not sure how you haven't heard that before.

 

[serenitynow]

It didn't happen while I was there.

So I guess it wasn't you, then.

 

[Jennasis]

So I guess it wasn't you, then.

 

[Mambo Junkie]

Actually, I find the thread quite informative (other than the intentionally obtuse and unnecessary comments) because it has been in the back of my mind that I will encounter extremely drunk and obnoxious people during my visit. I am not talking about the person who chooses to stroll around with a beer or wine glass in hand, or someone who buys a drink or 2 at different kiosks, but those who either set out to get trashed, or have no filter and don't know when to stop AND (offensive caps here) are loud and obnoxious.
What constitutes a family unit aside, I often travel with children, and we enjoy going to the countries to meet the different characters, see a few of the attractions, and enjoy the atmosphere. Because of the marketing towards families with young children I do hold Disney to a higher standard than other venues. Through television, online and magazine ads we are encouraged to make WDW a destination for children from a very young age to young at heart. I do not enjoy loud, obnoxious or offensive behavior anywhere, but especially somewhere that has been heavily promoted as something entirely different. That said, I will give it a try and see for myself if the behavior the OP wrote about is the norm or just bad luck. I will, however, wisely keep my findings to myself.
Enjoy!

 

[Moback]

It didn't happen while I was there.

So it didn't happen?

 

[Moback]

It is well known and understood all over the web that all caps is yelling. It isn't a Disboard thing. Not sure how you haven't heard that before.

Sorry I thought it was used for making an alert to a comment that should be emphatic. Are there any other internet rules that I need to be made aware of? If so I do apologize as this is all new to me.

 

[P'colaBeachBum]

Yes, I know it's considered to be "Shouting", but Caps don't point to rudeness.

Considering the way I felt about seeing drunk loud 20-somethings all over the place at 1/ 2 pm in the afternoon, I think the caps are appropriate.

Definitely don't go to there on the weekend during F&W if yesterday upset you!

 

[Jennasis]

So it didn't happen?

The post of mine you quoted, originally, said that I had never seen unruly drunks at Epcot in any of my over 30 trips...and followed with "I'm sure there etc etc".

 

[Moback]

Actually, I find the thread quite informative (other than the intentionally obtuse and unnecessary comments) because it has been in the back of my mind that I will encounter extremely drunk and obnoxious people during my visit. I am not talking about the person who chooses to stroll around with a beer or wine glass in hand, or someone who buys a drink or 2 at different kiosks, but those who either set out to get trashed, or have no filter and don't know when to stop AND (offensive caps here) are loud and obnoxious.
What constitutes a family unit aside, I often travel with children, and we enjoy going to the countries to meet the different characters, see a few of the attractions, and enjoy the atmosphere. Because of the marketing towards families with young children I do hold Disney to a higher standard than other venues. Through television, online and magazine ads we are encouraged to make WDW a destination for children from a very young age to young at heart. I do not enjoy loud, obnoxious or offensive behavior anywhere, but especially somewhere that has been heavily promoted as something entirely different. That said, I will give it a try and see for myself if the behavior the OP wrote about is the norm or just bad luck. I will, however, wisely keep my findings to myself.
Enjoy!

I have been there with children and saw a young man puking in a bush. The kids pointed him out and I simply told them that he was laughing at that tree. Yes it does happen quite often, and I am not a prude, but I do support the intent of the original poster. In simple Irish wisdom, a man needs to know his limits.

 

[Princess_Kirky]

Say what!?! Only drunks hang out in the WS?! I was there last Sat. (night) and Sun. (Am into the afternoon). I did not see any lewd or inappropriate behavior. The place still has a family vibe. I enjoyed a few drinks that may have even been integral to treating myself to some very expensive perfume in Italy.

 

[CarolynU]

I was at Epcot during the last F&W Festival. I am a solo older traveller. One Saturday early evening I was knocked flying in the Mexico Pavilion as I was exiting the boat ride by a drunken guy wearing one of those sombrero's they sell in the carts. He was staggering all over the place. I just managed to stop myself actually falling over. I then went outside and as walking I came across two more groups holding drinks who were starting to argue, so the language was reflecting that and it felt loud and quite intimidating. I passed them quickly but then another guy and his girlfriend who were arm in arm with drinks in their hands were weaving from side to side and also bumped in to me as I was attempting to try and walk around them.
At this point I'm afraid that I stopped enjoying myself and just left and drove to Disney Springs which definitely had a far more pleasant vibe for me. I was actually able to get an ice cream sundae and walk around without feeling as if at any minute I could have been knocked over. One persons pleasure is another persons nightmare I'm afraid. I don't mind people drinking at all. In fact I love a glass of wine before or with a meal, or a cocktail or two, but everything in moderation is my motto.

 

[wyurm]

It sickens me to see every other person walking around with beer, wine, shots. It is completely ridiculous. Even more annoying were the(no exaggeration either) 25+ bridal/bacherlorette parties I seen strolling around, drinking every chance and every spot they could. Not to mention the groups or millennials there obviously just to drink. Treating World Showcase like a St Paddy's day pub crawl.

AND ALL OF THIS ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON???
I'd hate to see what the night looks like.

I will never visit World Showcase on a weekend again, and after seeing this garbage, I don't think I'll be back for a loooooong time. I know the F & W festival had become a drunk fest, but now every weekend is as well. I'm out, and yes, I will be writing an e-mail stating my dissatisfaction even though I'm not the type of person that usually would do that. In fact I think I have done it one time before and coincidentally it was to Disney about the MNSSHP, when they started over selling it.

I don't see any mention of seeing drunken behavior, only seeing people holding alcoholic beverages and seeing groups of people who are assumed to be at Epcot to drink .

All of us have the potential to offend, but only we have the power to rise above that and realize that if it's not harming us then we should let it be. I sincerely hope Disney takes these angry emails for what they are and doesn't take action on them.

 

[yulilin3]

Well, I guess I'll contribute to this discussion with my personal thoughts.
People go to Epcot to enjoy the park
People go to Epcot to enjoy an adult beverage or two or three
People go to Epcot to get drunk and do the Drinking Around the World Challenge
People go to Epcot for any combination of the three
Just google "drinking around the world" challenge and you'll find many sites and articles devoted to it. There are shirts, lanyards, strategies...it's a thing
In my 18 years going to Epcot I've seen people enjoying drinks all the ay up to people knocking over other people, puking,peeing,going into the Epcot fountain (which was stopped by Disney security not before the 2 people actually were touching the water in the fountain)
What do I do when I see bad behaviour? I move along, it's their own lives, wallets and liver that will live through the consequences. It doesn't make me wanna leave Epcot.
Just found this video of a group doing the drink around the world thing. This is repeated by maybe 10 groups a day, it could be just friends, or kids that just turned 21, bachelors, and bachelorettes...
Enjoy

 

[Southernmiss]

And to think, all those 'drunken millenials' were cute little princesses once upon a time who grew up to love Disney and have their own dream of a bachelorette party at WS come true.

I've read the whole thread and don't understand why op couldn't ignore, move around them and move on.

We spent a day at Epcot in May, I couldn't tell you a thing about any other guests in that park today or the day after we visited. I was too busy enjoying my own teens, 22 y/o and dh to notice or care what others did. With no alcoholic beverages involved.

And another thing, I remember growing up and visiting my grandpa in the Midwest in the summer. After Sunday morning Mass, families and people of all ages would meet at the bar next door to the church and visit for the afternoon! Oh the horror!

I think it was much like 'the old country' where people caught up with each other at the local pub.

I think all situations, even the uncomfortable ones, can be teaching tools for our kids of all ages. Not time for pearl clutching and social media hand ringing.

 

[JerseyJanice]

FTR, the drunkest person I ever saw at Disney was at our resort. A rather inebriated gentleman was wandering the halls of the Contemporary garden wing trying to find his room. We ignored him, figuring he'd find it and pass out, or security would handle him.

I have never seen roving bands of drunks or anyone vomit or even stagger at Epcot.

 

[hollyrose1313]

I've never seen anything like you describe, but we did take take our daughter fir her 21sr birthday....

Oh my goodness #parentgoals I now know where we will be 2031!

 

[IrishNYC]

What constitutes a family unit aside, I often travel with children, and we enjoy going to the countries to meet the different characters, see a few of the attractions, and enjoy the atmosphere. Because of the marketing towards families with young children I do hold Disney to a higher standard than other venues. Through television, online and magazine ads we are encouraged to make WDW a destination for children from a very young age to young at heart. I do not enjoy loud, obnoxious or offensive behavior anywhere, but especially somewhere that has been heavily promoted as something entirely different. That said, I will give it a try and see for myself if the behavior the OP wrote about is the norm or just bad luck. I will, however, wisely keep my findings to myself.
Enjoy!

While much of Disney is geared towards a younger crowd, a lot of what Disney now owns is not at all geared to the youngest ones anymore. Star Wars and Marvel, shows like Once Upon a Time, etc., aren't meant for the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse crowd. As more fans of these intellectual properties realized that they can experience some of this in the parks, a more mature crowd will visit. Additionally, events like Food & Wine aren't at all for children. You can be young at heart and still enjoy a few drinks. The young at heart, but mature in sensibilities person doesn't worry about what others are doing unless it directly affects them. As I tell my DD7 every time she points out what someone else is doing on the playground/in the supermarket/at the beach, "Mind DD7's business, not anyone else's, unless they're doing what they're doing to you."