Embryonic stem cell research vs. In Vitro Fertilization

[yeartolate]

I propose that if embryonic stem cell research is unethical, then families who allow fertilized eggs to remain in deep freeze until they are unusable is just as unethical.

What do you think?

 

[7beasley]

N/M

no point responding to this poll

 

[helenabear]

I think your negative slant on this will make for a terrible poll. Not very openminded about things are you?

 

[AllyandJack]

Not everyone who undergoes IVF has dozens of embryos wasting away. Some people only fertilize what they intend to transfer. Some people go back for their embryos. Some people donate them so other couples can have children.

So, until you poll each individual person who has undergone the procedure, I *think* you have no clue what you're talking about and, honestly, I hope you never do. It would truly be a shame if your daughter, your son, your granddaughter, your grandson needed IVF to have a family. Yep, that would truly be a shame.

 

[mickeyfan2]

None of the answers work for me. I am for stem cell research. I could care less what the couples do with their fertilized eggs.

 

[mickeyboat]

You go girls!

Denae

 

[phillybeth]

Fertilized eggs for IVF are NOT implanted- they are TRANSFERRED. If they were implanted, every round of IVF would result in a pregnancy, and we all know that is not true. Transferring places the fertilized eggs in the uterus- it is up to nature/God if they implant and develop into a embryo, fetus and ultimately a baby.

 

[Rella Bella]

I think you are a terrible hateful person who has never had to suffer through the sheer torture of infertility and you should just shut up and you have no business judging others who go through such hell and scrimp together every last penny in order to try to achieve a family.

I'm so sorry for what you've gone through -- or are going through.

I have been there... and -- though I may be wrong here -- I think in her/his own strange way Yeartolate was actually defending belief in IVF. There are many people who believe stem cell research is bad and IVF is good he/she was just pointing out that inconsistency.

My own response to this poll is:

Oh how I wish it was as simple as "choose one of these answers"... those are jut a few of the points in this VERY complex issue.

I live in Missouri -- it's on our ballot in two weeks. I've heard stem cell research debated up one side and down the other. From every possible angle believe me to make your poll accurate you'd have to add about 100 choices... and then there would still be points of view left out.

It's just not black and white. And it shouldn't be lumped in with IVF either.

Just for the record... I didn't vote in your poll. Not one of those answers even comes close.

 

[Laura]

It is ABSOLUTELY the individual couples' decisions to make in regards to any blastocysts that they won't use. Donate to research, give to someone else as a "snowflake baby", incinerate, whatever. I want couples to have those choices.

 

[goofygirl]

I think you are a terrible hateful person who has never had to suffer through the sheer torture of infertility and you should just shut up and you have no business judging others who go through such hell and scrimp together every last penny in order to try to achieve a family.

Wow. A little bitter, aren't we??
Your infertility is NOT an excuse to be rude.

I see nothing wrong with the poll/question. I don't think the OP was hateful at all. It was a legitimate question!

 

[goofygirl]

BTW I voted for "both are ethical."

 

[zagafi]

Fertilized eggs for IVF are NOT implanted- they are TRANSFERRED. If they were implanted, every round of IVF would result in a pregnancy, and we all know that is not true. Transferring places the fertilized eggs in the uterus- it is up to nature/God if they implant and develop into a embryo, fetus and ultimately a baby.

Thank you! I get so tired of people tossing around terms without any clue what they mean. Ugh.

 

[mickeyboat]

I think many people do not understand that this issue isn't a simple philosphical debate. It is an intensely personal and emotional issue, with many dimensions which are not captured in the poll choices.

I was not able to vote, either.

Denae

 

[Bob Slydell]

I think you are a terrible hateful person who has never had to suffer through the sheer torture of infertility and you should just shut up and you have no business judging others who go through such hell and scrimp together every last penny in order to try to achieve a family.

Interesting reply considering the OP is for IVF (as well as stem-cell research), not against it.

 

[7beasley]

n/m

no point in responding to this thread or poll

 

[AllyandJack]

Interesting reply considering the OP is for IVF (as well as stem-cell research), not against it.

That's not very clear from original post. The OP made it seem as though it was his view ("I propose") and wanted to know what others thought.

Maybe if someone has a history of knowing this poster and their views it's clear, but not for people who happen to stumble upon him proposing these views.

I'm pro-choice, but if I started a thread entitled, "I propose people who have abortions serve jail time." people would be all over me arguing the pro-choice point of view - which I share, but nobody would know that based on the post.

 

[7beasley]

N/M

No point in responding to this thread or poll

 

[mickeyfan2]

I wouldn't say bitter - I would say sad that I suffer with infertility and have to go through IVF and annoyed at idiots like you and the other poster who have no compassion for people who want a family and can't have one without pain, heartbreak, great expensive and extensive difficulty.

I assume you have never gone through IVF nor has anyone you love or I think your feelings would be different and your response not so insensitive if you had. Too many people feel it is their right to judge others rather than minding their own business. No one really cares what you or the OP think about whether people like me are unethical. It is not a legitimate question -- it is an unnecessary question.

My cousin went thru this and could not get pregnant. There is another option and that is adoption. They chose this option and now are the proud parents of two boys and one girl.

BTW You do seem bitter and most seem to think that IVF is ethical.

 

[Bob Slydell]

edited to add: I notice from the picture in your signature that you have kids -- did you have them through IVF?

No, I did not. Why? Does it matter?

In case you care, I'm all for IVF.

 

[lil mermaid]

BTW You do seem bitter and most seem to think that IVF is ethical.

IMO, I think that if the poll were re-worded, the responses would not be so emotional.

Response edited only because I misread Mickeyfans post - sorry!