Economy, Good or Bad

OhMari

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I do a lot of survey's and this question will always come up in the end.
"Do you feel the Economy is Good or Bad.

My job just got cut to part time and my pay got cut in half too. I was told I should have never been paid for what I did in my line of work. A volunteer could come in tomorrow and do my job for free. :sad.

Me and my dh both work, (me part time now), but gas prices are back up. Our heat bill has been $400 a month since November. Food prices are up. I know most people have jobs again, but it feels like we just keep swimming and never really get ahead. We have cut back on so many expeditures, paid off almost all our bills, except utility bills.

So most times I select the economy is going down again. But that is my personel preferrence. I know my dh company is hiring like crazy, if you are a mechanic, electrician, welder want to work on the pipeline or put in a tunnel. How is it really out there.
 
I do a lot of survey's and this question will always come up in the end.
"Do you feel the Economy is Good or Bad.

My job just got cut to part time and my pay got cut in half too. I was told I should have never been paid for what I did in my line of work. A volunteer could come in tomorrow and do my job for free. :sad.

Me and my dh both work, (me part time now), but gas prices are back up. Our heat bill has been $400 a month since November. Food prices are up. I know most people have jobs again, but it feels like we just keep swimming and never really get ahead. We have cut back on so many expeditures, paid off almost all our bills, except utility bills.

So most times I select the economy is going down again. But that is my personel preferrence. I know my dh company is hiring like crazy, if you are a mechanic, electrician, welder want to work on the pipeline or put in a tunnel. How is it really out there.
So much depends on who you are talking to and their field of work.

My nephew has an associate's degree in computer science from the local community college. He has not found a permanent job since he graduated about 2.5 years ago. However, he has always had some sort of employment. My son will graduate in May with a Bachelor's degree in Information Technology. He has a job waiting for him when he gets out.

I have one friend who lost his job and was on unemployment until he maxed out his benefits. He ended up taking a cut in pay and is making a fraction of what he made before. He is 59 years old and happy that someone is willing to taking a chance on someone who will eligible for retirement in only a few years.

Another friend was just told that she will have her hours cut back to 5 days per pay period. A pay period is 2 weeks. She works in health care as a radiation therapist treating cancer patients. She is looking at it as an opportunity to spend more time with her 6-month old grandson. Patients will have to wait longer to receive their treatment at her inner-city hospital. The powers-that-be will be closing down one machine.

My sister (age 52) just left her job as an OR nurse at another inner-city hospital. She is taking a cut in pay to work at a surgical center. Her take-home pay will be the same because she will no longer pay the city's wage tax, daily parking fees and bridge tolls. She's excited that the quality of her work situation will improve. They have posted her position both in-house and online. The hospital is willing to replace a BSRN who has 30+ years of experience with a recent graduate nurse with a minimal amount of OR experience. I pity the patients.

There isn't a week that doesn't go by where someone passing through our office hasn't asked if we are hiring. People are still looking for work. We aren't expanding (in fact, we had two people retire and we did not replace them). However, the Target up the street is accepting applications. They're always accepting applications.

My brother works in the healthcare division of a major company. There are rumors that their division is being sold off to another mega-company. He's worried about his job but I think that middle management should be the ones who are really concerned. He works as a field service specialist, servicing hospital equipment. I hope that he has at least a 9-month emergency fund but I somehow doubt it. His kids have a lot of medical bills and his ex-wife doesn't pay her share.

Another nephew got his Bachelor's degree 2 years ago from our state's flagship university. His degree is very specialized but there is not a huge demand for his type of training. He currently manages the restaurant at a country club. He's taking courses in restaurant management.

So, I happen to know a lot of people who are either unemployed, under-employed or in fear of losing their jobs soon. I'm seeing more and more people come through our office who are relying on some form of assistance to make ends meet. I don't think the economy has improved. I think that people have become accustomed to this "new normal".
 
Most people we know (ourselves included) have had a cut in a pay the past few years while having a huge jump in health insurance costs and other general cost of living going up.

In our area, the ecomony is still very much down. So many companies around here have cut hours to deal with the huge increase in health insurance costs, leaving friends and family really struggling.
 
My husband is union -so no pay cuts for him. He pays almost $100 a month . (yes just 100) in benefits - health, dental, vision, ltd, std and extra life insurance. It used to be $20 a month. Plus job is secure - he is top 5% in seniority.

I have been lucky to get raises every year plus bonuses. So we have never made more and are 40 and 45 years old.

So I think the economy is ok.
 

While anecdotal evidence is interesting, data say the economy has improved but could be doing better. Unemployment is way down. Wage growth remains slow. Employment growth is not where it needs to be. Some regions are fairing better than others. I'm glad I'm 37 and not 27. I was on my feet when the economy collapsed. Young people got clobbered and their dreams evaporated.
 
My husband is union -so no pay cuts for him. He pays almost $100 a month . (yes just 100) in benefits - health, dental, vision, ltd, std and extra life insurance. It used to be $20 a month. Plus job is secure - he is top 5% in seniority. I have been lucky to get raises every year plus bonuses. So we have never made more and are 40 and 45 years old. So I think the economy is ok.

You're fortunate but it's unlikely a future generation will enjoy such perk. The legacy costs are high. And are likely restraining current hiring.
 
I have really, really mixed feelings on this one. A lot of places around me are hiring for the first time in forever, so that's a good thing. But they're all minimum wage jobs with little or no room for advancement. The jobs that used to pay a decent living aren't coming back. If we run into one more licensed builder or plumber or electrician we know working at Lowes/Home Depot/Menards I might just cry. These guys have skills but the housing collapse has rendered them all but worthless, and now they're on food stamps and medicaid and just trying to keep from losing their homes.

Our household is a similarly mixed bag. DH and his partner are busy - they're not getting many calls for new estimates but a long-term project for a repeat customer will keep them working for the next few months. It isn't particularly lucrative work, though, because the jobsite (the customer's vacation home) is far enough away that gas and lodging are eating into the profits. Better than nothing, of course, but not what we're used to making on a project of this scope. And like everyone else this winter's heating bills are kicking our butts; we've had two months of bills that were more than double last year's. But the ACA is a huge help for us; our after-subsidy premium is 20% of what we were paying. And DH got quite a few extra hours at his fall-back part time job because he was on call for snow removal, which helped offset those ridiculous heat bills a bit.
 
It seems like nearly everybody around here is able to find some sort of work now, but it is heavily slanted toward lower paying, part-time, or temporary contract positions. Even when the contract positions keep getting renewed on a regular basis year after year, companies just don't want to commit to increasing their full-time with benefits payrolls.
 
DH works in academia. He hasn't had any raise in 5 years. If we get insurance from his work, our cost would be up 33%.

I work in finance for a company that serves the auto industry. Business is good. I got a reasonable raise and a decent bonus every year for the past three years.
 
I think it depends on your line of work, and where you are geographically. Dh just graduated a specialized program that has a very high employment rate. He was top of his class. Even so, he was competing for entry level positions with people who had quite a bit of experience. When entry level is asking for 5-8 years, you start to get worried. That said to us that the market is a little saturated around here, and competition was stiff. However he applied to a few places beyond his experience level in 2 other provinces, and offers were rolling in. We didn't want to move, but would have. Fortunately he found something here in his field, but still has to live away from home during the week as the commute is a little too long.
I know nursing and teaching here are terrible right now with far more applicants than positions, and when you are hired it's part time or contract. So while people may be working, they are still scraping by because they don't have benefits or full time pay.

ETA) And I should add that our region has the highest unemployment rate in the entire country right now. So we consider ourselves lucky that he landed a well paying position with benefits and a very good pension. It's worth the sacrifice of him living away while he gains experience.
 
My husband has not gotten a raise in over 6 years. He had a cut in pay but only got some of it back. Health care coverage is horrible and more out of pocket and now they're talking of increasing amount that employees have to pay for their coverage. No, I don't think the economy is better.
 
I do a lot of survey's and this question will always come up in the end.
"Do you feel the Economy is Good or Bad.

My job just got cut to part time and my pay got cut in half too. I was told I should have never been paid for what I did in my line of work. A volunteer could come in tomorrow and do my job for free. :sad.

Me and my dh both work, (me part time now), but gas prices are back up. Our heat bill has been $400 a month since November. Food prices are up. I know most people have jobs again, but it feels like we just keep swimming and never really get ahead. We have cut back on so many expeditures, paid off almost all our bills, except utility bills.

So most times I select the economy is going down again. But that is my personel preferrence. I know my dh company is hiring like crazy, if you are a mechanic, electrician, welder want to work on the pipeline or put in a tunnel. How is it really out there.

Alot has to do with the state you are in. Wisconsin is around 40th in the nation in job creation...definitely not the best place to be if looking for a new job or trying to keep your current one.
 
Personally I feel like if you have a job, the economy is looking up for you. The problem is that the job market is a disaster now and people can't find that job to enjoy the uptick in the economy. We're doing well at home because we're both employed at stable, long-term companies and don't work contract (both our companies layoff contract workers first and have yet to go further). But before I got a job and got back into the workforce, I would have said the economy wasn't doing so well because I personally wasn't doing so well. I think it's down to perspective, employment status, field of work, and lastly your location.
 
Thank you everyone for your insights.
I am a little shell shocked yet, but not surprised.
 
I do a lot of survey's and this question will always come up in the end.
"Do you feel the Economy is Good or Bad.

My job just got cut to part time and my pay got cut in half too. I was told I should have never been paid for what I did in my line of work. A volunteer could come in tomorrow and do my job for free. :sad.

Me and my dh both work, (me part time now), but gas prices are back up. Our heat bill has been $400 a month since November. Food prices are up. I know most people have jobs again, but it feels like we just keep swimming and never really get ahead. We have cut back on so many expeditures, paid off almost all our bills, except utility bills.

So most times I select the economy is going down again. But that is my personel preferrence. I know my dh company is hiring like crazy, if you are a mechanic, electrician, welder want to work on the pipeline or put in a tunnel. How is it really out there.

Just wanted to say so sorry to hear about your situation. I too was cut in hours and thus pay back in September and DH hasn't had a raise in over 4 years. Meanwhile, our home heating is through the roof at about $380 a month during the winter months, gas, electric and food not to mention our taxes which is nearing $9000.00 a year have all continue to go up. For us, the economy is continually going down; no light at the end of this tunnel! Like you we cut back to the point that we don't have much more we could cut back on, bills are up to date; no debt except for the house and car, and have dropped the temps in the house to 62 so yes if you visit us, wear warm clothing. The one thing we HAVE NOT cut out yet is our annual vacation but I have a feeling this summer will be the last for awhile.
 
For us, things have not taken the upturn yet. Before we even met, my husband bought a house right before the market collapsed and took a job out of state less than a year later. He never was able to sell the home since it is worth maybe half what we owe on it. We have renters in the home and take about a $300 loss per month not to mention we pay taxes on the rental income. We loose close to $10,000 a year just owning the home.

Our primary residence is actually my mom's home. She was going to loose it to the bank but we moved in to cover the cost of her mortgage. She now lives with us in the same house until she can financially afford to be on her own two feet.

DH took a 30% pay cut a few years back and has not received a raise since. I just lost my job in December and am going to be starting my own business since I can't find a job. Of course going this route means more work, less money and more taxes. Don't even get my started with all the headaches I had with collecting unemployment.

So no, I don't think the economy is better. It will take years for dh and I to recover from all the hits we have taken.
 
Based on the business where I work, I would say NOT GOOD. We have had to cut some positions and cut hours for others.

My husband is union -so no pay cuts for him. He pays almost $100 a month . (yes just 100) in benefits - health, dental, vision, ltd, std and extra life insurance. .
Paying only $100 for all that is VERY GOOD. I am in HR and can tell you a single person age 45 would pay about 15% more at my company for just health/dental/vision. So to get all that plus disability & life is a great deal.
 
For us, things have not taken the upturn yet. Before we even met, my husband bought a house right before the market collapsed and took a job out of state less than a year later. He never was able to sell the home since it is worth maybe half what we owe on it. We have renters in the home and take about a $300 loss per month not to mention we pay taxes on the rental income. We loose close to $10,000 a year just owning the home.

Just wanted to say that if you are really losing money on the house and still paying taxes on the income you really need to have someone look at your taxes. Rental profit is taxable (rent received - expenses). if you pay more to keep the house than you make in rent you should owe no taxes on the income.
 
All the evidence here says the economy is bad. Since the first of the year a lot of stores and restaurants near me have closed. A Hallmark card shop, a Panda Express, and an Arby's. Other than the Panda Express, they had been in business more than 30 years.

I sold my parents house for a fair price in July to investors, who put $100,000 in renovations into it. They put it back on the market for $250,000 more than they paid for it. No offers. I sold it after 17 days on the market, and had 3 offers. After a series of price changes that dropped the asking price by $100,000, they just cut the price to $29,000 LESS than they paid me for it.
 











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