Early Morning Magic?

[jade1]

Its called healthy balance. If you look at dhs and ak they each have what the other lacks

I can see that, which is why the coming additions.

That said, I have always preferred 4 parks even if the are a bit thinner over 2 parks.

Which is why we prefer hopping.

Change a scenery and atmosphere as well as thinning crowds.

Would not prefer AK attached as a land at MK,and DHS as a land attached to EPCOT just to say the 2 parks offer much more.

4 parks also allows for eventual expansion as we are seeing.

 

[rteetz]

Would not prefer AK attached as a land at MK,and DHS as a land attached to EPCOT just to say the 2 parks offer much more.

What? That's just crazy. Neither would be lands just attached to those parks. The stuff in DHS has absolutely nothing to do with Epcot. I do prefer hopping myself but there still should be enough in each park for a full day.

 

[jade1]

What? That's just crazy. Neither would be lands just attached to those parks. The stuff in DHS has absolutely nothing to do with Epcot. I do prefer hopping myself but there still should be enough in each park for a full day.

Again, try to follow along.

I am saying that WDW could have just added on to MK and EPCOT instead of creating 2 new parks that were obviously thin to begin with.

An example is at US and IOA. They added HP to each park in crammed in corners. HP could have been an anchor or even an entire 3rd park

DL and DCA are a mix of the 4 WDW parks, like Soarin, TTBAB and TOT (3 parks) in one. Therefore they have a higher concentration for attractions.

Some folks would maybe have rather seen that happen at WDW-I prefer 4. And part of that reason is like I said-it spreads out the crowds and offers a change of scenery and atmosphere. And mostly it allows for much further expansion as we are starting to see now.

Are they half days instead? Probably, but we prefer that, as no park even MK will get 12 to 16 straight hours from us. That's why we enjoy either hoppers or AP.

 

[rteetz]

Again, try to follow along.

I am saying that WDW could have just added on to MK and EPCOT instead of creating 2 new parks that were obviously thin to begin with.

An example is at US and IOA. They added HP to each park in crammed in corners. HP could have been an anchor or even an entire 3rd park

DL and DCA are a mix of the 4 WDW parks, like Soarin, TTBAB and TOT (3 parks) in one. Therefore they have a higher concentration for attractions.

Some folks would maybe have rather seen that happen at WDW-I prefer 4. And part of that reason is like I said-it spreads out the crowds and offers a change of scenery and atmosphere. And mostly it allows for much further expansion as we are starting to see now.

Are they half days instead? Probably, but we prefer that, as no park even MK will get 12 straight hours from us. That's why we enjoy either hoppers or AP.

Universal couldn't have done anything more with Harry Potter at the time because they didn't have the room for it. Universal only recently after Harry Potter bought more land for a possible third park.

WDW crowds aren't spread out enough. I've gone through this before there is a capacity issue at the parks. MK is bursting at the seems. Epcot doesn't have enough rides. AK doesn't have enough for guests to stay longer than a half day and DHS doesn't have enough family attractions. Why do you think TSMM has the long waits that it does? There simply isn't enough family attractions there. If there was they wouldn't need to add a third track.

 

[jade1]

Universal couldn't have done anything more with Harry Potter at the time because they didn't have the room for it. Universal only recently after Harry Potter bought more land for a possible third park.

WDW crowds aren't spread out enough. I've gone through this before there is a capacity issue at the parks. MK is bursting at the seems. Epcot doesn't have enough rides. AK doesn't have enough for guests to stay longer than a half day and DHS doesn't have enough family attractions. Why do you think TSMM has the long waits that it does? There simply isn't enough family attractions there. If there was they wouldn't need to add a third track.

The Us/IOA space issue is not my problem. They sold off land they could have used, and have purchased land they should have used. WDW did not make those mistakes.

Before you said it was crazy to mix lands, but after realizing DL/DCA did it-we need to pivot to a new scenario.

So now we are at a point were even all 4 parks are so crowded they need to do something. So its really a good thing they didn't just keep adding on to 2 parks.

And now they are adding on to the parks, an advantage I said they would have instead of just adding on to 2.

Keep in mind they don't owe us anything. You can want 10 new rides at each park all day long-not gonna happen.

 

[Googelibear]

I hope it's not another hard ticket event. If it is, this is getting silly.

The fact that it says Fantasyland and not Magic Kingdom makes me think it won't be hard ticket.

It says table service, but that makes little sense.

I would hope it's some sort of streetsmosphere thing, but that's added cost without added income, so I'm not holding my breath.

All of those little blurbs coming out really do look like we're approaching the end of EMH in it's current incarnation. The table-service mention does make me wonder if this is a type of experience where you can stroll earlier in Fantasy Land to do the very popular Mine Train and Princess Hall and then grabbing breakfast at BOG or CRT?
Frankly, I can't wait for Disney to come out and make an official announcement instead of teasing everyone. It would also be super helpful to finish my planning for our next trip in September.

You should read the article. It tells you that breakfast will be provided at Pinocchio's and which rides will be open. The price is "$69 adults/ $49 children. Theme park tickets will be required and are a separate purchase.

Tickets are not on sale yet."

 

[rteetz]

The Us/IOA space issue is not my problem. They sold off land they could have used, and have purchased land they should have used. WDW did not make those mistakes.

Before you said it was crazy to mix lands, but after realizing DL/DCA did it-we need to pivot to a new scenario.

So now we are at a point were even all 4 parks are so crowded they need to do something. So its really a good thing they didn't just keep adding on to 2 parks.

And now they are adding on to the parks, an advantage I said they would have instead of just adding on to 2.

Keep in mind they don't owe us anything. You can want 10 new rides at each park all day long-not gonna happen.

Walt Disney World was not owned by several different companies either. Walt bought all of the land at once. You may also not realize that Disney often buys and sells chunks of land. Comcast the current owner of Universal didn't sell off the land they were smart enough to buy it back though.

Epcot, DHS and AK are not so crowded. MK is the other three have so much potential that isn't being utilized. Huge chunks of space at Epcot are sitting empty.

10 rides at a park should happen though. You need enough for everyone. You can't just have all thrills but then no family attractions. You can't have all kiddie rides but no thrills. You need both. DHS lacks in the family department.

 

[soniam]

I do prefer hopping myself but there still should be enough in each park for a full day.

I am actually a little worried about what happens when AK and DHS have completed, even partially, construction. There's hardly enough time to do everything we want on vacation now. There's just going to be waaaaaay too many things to do Good problem to have though.

 

[rteetz]

I am actually a little worried about what happens when AK and DHS have completed, even partially, construction. There's hardly enough time to do everything we want on vacation now. There's just going to be waaaaaay too many things to do Good problem to have though.

That's why we go back For me a half day at DHS is enough currently. Now once things are finished it will be a full day park. What I'm worried about though is where I'm going to fit in Disney springs because with AK now open at night we would always go to the springs after AK.

 

[Tiffany_m15]

I don't think they do the morning show before EMH.

I have been at a morning show before am EMH, but that was 2 years ago. I guess things could have changed but when I talked to a cm on the phone before we went in February this year, they said that the morning show happens before the park opens, whenever it opens, EMH included. Obviously that didn't ring true for us so I still don't know for sure.

 

[jade1]

10 rides at a park should happen though. You need enough for everyone. You can't just have all thrills but then no family attractions. You can't have all kiddie rides but no thrills. You need both. DHS lacks in the family department.

Says you. It's not your check book or company.

If its as blatantly obvious and bad as you try to make it sound, and you "can't" to do this and "can't" to do that-why isn't attendance down half?

Point is that's not the case, so they don't have to do anything.

 

[jade1]

Epcot, DHS and AK are not so crowded.

I'm guessing that's why they are adding to them (even though that don't have to). But I'm no rocket scientist.

 

[jade1]

Walt Disney World was not owned by several different companies either. Walt bought all of the land at once. You may also not realize that Disney often buys and sells chunks of land.

Again-not my problem and a reason I like WDW more.

 

[rteetz]

Says you. It's not your check book or company.

If its as blatantly obvious and bad as you try to make it sound, and you "can't" to do this and "can't" to do that-why isn't attendance down half?

Point is that's not the case, so they don't have to do anything.

Attendance has been stagnant at DHS and AK.

 

[jade1]

Attendance has been stagnant at DHS and AK.

That's not half.

 

[rteetz]

I'm guessing that's why they are adding to them (even though that don't have to). But I'm no rocket scientist.

They're not adding to Epcot. And they have to add to DHS and AK because if they didn't attendance would drop.

 

[rteetz]

That's not half.

When AK opened attendance dropped at Epcot and DHS.

 

[rteetz]

Again-not my problem and a reason I like WDW more.

I'm just pointing out facts.

 

[jade1]

I'm just pointing out facts.

Me to. Fact is WDW was done correctly regarding land and space. US was not.

 

[rteetz]

Me to. Fact is WDW was done correctly regarding land and space. US was not.

That's an opinion. You think it was done correctly but others may think otherwise. Many prefer USO to WDW and vice versa.