"If you all have to spend an hour just going to MGM and getting FP while you could be at the pool or what have you, you really haven't saved yourselves anytime "
Exactly, which is why I posted the thread hopeing they would post these times somewhere, and also why I just wanted to waste 1 person's time, not 10. But until then its just a blind guess which is fair for all, just trying to make everyone's trip more efficient and enjoyable. Most are veterans and just want to hit a few "favorites" and then Fantasmic or whatever. We are going in August (hence the afternoon break) so it is plenty busy, but I think if we leave EPCOT around noon and one of us went to MGM around 12:30, there may be some evening times left, or it may be sold out already but no way will it be at 1 hour or so. But if we arrive at MGM around 6 or so, all rides will be around 2 hours with no FP left so why go at all except for Fantasmic? I think we will just stay on course and head over there myself with 10 hoppers and go in myself and check the times, if they are close to what we want I will figure something out and get what I can. From the info gathered on here I see no other options and certainly dont mind checking myself. Thanks for the info.