DVC tens years from now....fifteen?

Turn over one of the Disney Cruise line ships to be DVC only all of the time.

I think this is one of the most innovative and interesting ideas I've read! I do not necessarily think it will happen, but I think it is a WOW of an idea! The big problem is that I do not know how DVC would go about selling a ship vs. real estate, and how it would effect the other "properties," but I like the overall idea!

My dreams for DVC are really dreams & wishes for WDW as a whole.

1) More CM's. Not just bodies though, I would love better paid (hey it's hard to love your job if it's barely liveable wages) better trained ones.

2) less hard ticket events. While I do love the holloween & Christmas parties do we need 47 nights of them

3) More individuality. I'm not a big souveneir shopper but back in the day you could get really cute Disney things. Now every gift shop has the POTC and the nightmare before christmas stuff. Why would you sell that in the BWV's gift shop.

4) Get rid of the DDP plan (sorry). I really feel it has also suck the creativity out of the restuarants. There has got to be a better alternative.

5) Get rid of the "freebies" (sorry again). John P. Public cannot handle free stuff. My last few trips could have been entitled "guest behaving badly" I can't tell you the number of times I've witness guest lose it because their kid did not get a free dessert for their birthday or at the WLV last year a lovely mom (with 3 kids in tow) called the cm, mexican $%#^. Why? she had a less than desirable view and couldn't be upgrade. The cm was politely trying to tell her she paid for standard. I thought she should have called the cops.
Don't even get me started on the guest complaining at the front desk because she didn't get "towel animals"
With apologies to a Jack Nicholas but "We Can't Handle THE FREE STUFF"

While I'm not as adverse to #2 as the original poster, I agree overall and would suggest many of the same ideas.

I would love to see Disney get back to its customer service dominance. There have just been way too many reports (in addition to my own experiences) that tell me that Disney has stopped making service a priority. I have to tell you that I am a lifelong Disney fan, but my first immersive trip to WDW made me want to own a piece of the magic. It was my "happy place," but over the last few years I have become less and less confident in the experience. It is no longer a definite that we will get great service; sometimes we do, sometimes we don't. I did not intend to buy into so-so.

It is not entitlement (like demanding towel animals), but confidence that we will get care, not indifference, from staff at all levels. I do not want freebies, but I want common courtesey ALL THE TIME from ALL STAFF. There was a time when Disney cast members were not allowed to have a bad day. They call them cast members for a reason; it is not just to be cute, but because they are supposed to be a part of creating an unreal, fantasy experience for guests. It is almost performance art, but lately these cast members do not know their lines and seem oblivious to the production going on around them. It is truly sad because it was what set Disney apart from every other media, entertainment, and theme park conglomerates.

Okay, off service soap box!

The only thing I would add is that while I would love to see a woodsy/snowy type resort, a Caribbean resort, and a big city resort, not only do I not think it will happen, but I'm not sure it would be good for DVC if it did.

Unfortunately the DVC system does not lend itself to resorts of unequal stature. While the 11 month booking window advantage is enough to get most to, "buy where they want to stay," it has not been enough to keep off site resort prices from falling like a stone. This is why VB and HHI have been a problem and I suspect that Hawaii will be, too. The only thing that has prevented VB and HHI from being a complete drain on the DVC system is the maintenance fee differential.

What DVC has to sell is onsite locations in the number one vacation spot in the world. And they sell this for a premium because they have a monopoly on this market. However, they cannot expect to sell any other location for this same premium since they will have competition. So they currently have (and will create an even bigger) problems when building anywhere other than onsite. While I love the idea of DVC Hawaii (and Lake Tahoe, Caribbean, NYC), I know that they would be a drain on the DVC system, which puts my current ownership at risk.

How does DVC think they will be able to compete with Marriott in Hawaii when they are literally right next door and selling pretty much the same thing for much, much less??? There MAY have been a time that they could "sell" the Disney service angle, but I think that ship has sailed! And while DCL has differentiated itself in the marketplace with the kid's clubs, larger staterooms, and no gambling, I cannot see how DVC Hawaii is going to be able to set itself apart from every other timeshare resort in Hawaii. While I do believe it will be built, I cannot see DVC Hawaii being anything but a problem for the DVC system as a whole. I predict two scenarios: 1) It will be priced at onsite DVC rates, in which case I do not think it will sell well -OR- 2) they will have to sell it at a reduced cost to compete (like VB and HHI), in which case it will sell, but will put additional strain on the DVC system. I think many members like the idea, but do not see the problems and effects it will have on membership.

They need to stick to onsite properties (this would include other Disney properties like Paris, Hong Kong, etc.) where they have a monopoly and can continue to charge a premium for their plan.

Blahnde
 
Something up North would be great. How about Disney Cleveland or Disney Buffalo!!! Am I kidding or am I serious???
 
Let's get out our crystal balls - both real and imaginary - for a moment and conjure up images of DVC in the future.

Let's start with a practical question...and then truly dream a bit:
1) How do you think DVC will grow and evolve over the next 10-15 years?
2) In your dream scenario, how will it grow and evolve over the next 10-15 years?

How will DVC evolve over the next 10-15 years?

Renting will be abolished.

Resales will be offered by DVD at a competitive price with other resellers, plus they will offer developer points to attract all of the buyers.

Perks will be offered to owners with 1000 points or more. Maybe a 12 month booking window?
 
How will DVC evolve over the next 10-15 years?

Renting will be abolished.

Resales will be offered by DVD at a competitive price with other resellers, plus they will offer developer points to attract all of the buyers.

Perks will be offered to owners with 1000 points or more. Maybe a 12 month booking window?

Not big on renting disappearing because of the flexibility it affords, although I would like to get back the "exclusivity" of ownership. Would love Disney to really get in the resale game, but I cannot see it happening.

But mostly I would love them to treat larger point owners with some perks. While the 12 month window may be nice, how 'bout letting us do a once a year point combo where resort ownership is a non-issue! In other words, once a year we can use however many points we have available (regardless of resort) to book at 11 months at ANY resort! Ooooh, that would be fun!! I'm sure smaller point owners would howl, but it would be good for us!

Blahnde
 

I'd love to see a gulf coast resort as well as a really well thought out and themed resort in Gatlinburg/smokey mtns. I know that Southerners don't have the $$ of other parts of the country, but we don't have to fly to Orlando either, so we could really help balance out bad hard economic times. Plus, the state Retirement System is ALWAYS looking for great win-win investments. I bet they would jump at a joint venture with Disney in Gulf Shores. Don't laugh. You should check out the RTJ golf trail.

I know quite a few people who would jump at a chance to do 1/2 Gatlinburg OR Gulf Shores and, 1/2 WDW.

The thought of perks to 1000+ pt. members just irks me. IF anything, drop the $95 fee for them, [as long as you don't increase it for me] otherwise keep it the way it is. I'm happy that you could lay out $70k plus for DVC, but don't make it where I can't have a boardwalk or standard view. That is not the plan that signed on to when I joined. JMHO.
 
5) Get rid of the "freebies" (sorry again). John Q. Public cannot handle free stuff. My last few trips could have been entitled "guest behaving badly" I can't tell you the number of times I've witness guest lose it because their kid did not get a free dessert for their birthday or at the WLV last year a lovely mom (with 3 kids in tow) called the cm, mexican $%#^. Why? she had a less than desirable view and couldn't be upgrade. The cm was politely trying to tell her she paid for standard. I thought she should have called the cops.
Don't even get me started on the guest complaining at the front desk because she didn't get "towel animals"
With apologies to a Jack Nicholas but "We Can't Handle THE FREE STUFF"

I agree. Don't get me wrong. I love "freebies" as much as the next person but I don't EXPECT something free. If we get something, GREAT!, if not that's okay too. I just don't get the entitlement thing from people anymore....and, I don't consider myself an "old fuddy duddy" saying it...I'm only 33 for goodness sake!

And so...you don't get a towel animal...well....DAMN!...deal with it. There are much worse things, you are really not paying for towel animals......are you?
 
Separately.....sorry for the momentary hijack of the thread....

I would love to see additional DVC resorts....with ANY theme, as long as there is a theme.

Theme'ing is a Disney specialty, they seem to do it the best and that is what we want.

I saw on a separate thread someone talk about the notion of a "Hauted Mansion" DVC Resort. If Disney created that, my husband and I would be the absolute first to buy in.
 
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The thought of perks to 1000+ pt. members just irks me. IF anything, drop the $95 fee for them, [as long as you don't increase it for me] otherwise keep it the way it is. I'm happy that you could lay out $70k plus for DVC, but don't make it where I can't have a boardwalk or standard view. That is not the plan that signed on to when I joined. JMHO.

I agree with your point above for sure. I wouldn't mind other perks, but messing with the booking window would really upset me. I bought where I wanted to stay most of the time, and I wouldn't want to lose that advantage simply because I couldn't afford 1,000 points.

Realistically, I think we'll see DVC slow down a bit in the coming years. Unless BLT sells like absolute hot cakes, then I think the economy will take its toll on DVC sales and thus new properties being built.
 



















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