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[VGCgroupie]

Not diving back into the thread for debate so if someone feels the need to combat me Im not responding unless Im told to apologize for my words. But wanted to respond RE: the not allowing name changes potentially written in the contract.

I have been accused of being anti rental and the rental police in this thread. To be clear I am 100% anti commercial renting. Period. Spec rentals do happen to be what leads the way in commercial renting, whether some choose to believe that or not. I am onboard with Disney doing what it needs to do to eliminate commercial renting.

I am not onboard with not allowing name changes for reservations for average personal use owners. If they choose to go this route, I sadly will sell all my contracts unless the rules for banking are changed. I bought DVC partly due to its flexibility (renting) when needed. I never rented prior to becoming an owner because I do not like not having a flexible cancellation policy. If I cant make my trip 60-90 days out and I cant make another reservation for whatever reason I can rent that reservation without losing points (money). At 60-90 days I would be past my banking deadline and would lose those points. I am not in DVC to lose points. If the rules change that makes it so that is more likely to happen I would rather not be a member. The insurance coverage option isn't enough to get me to remain a member.

My stance after alllllll of this is still exactly the same, I trust DVC is not out to get us normal DVC owners and wont be doing anything that will have bad consequences for us that aren't in it as a money making endeavor.

 

[cruisehopeful]

I skim and don't actually read a lot. It seems like people are having trouble changing the lead guest name? My question is does it matter if the overall number of people on the reservation is within the max allowed? For example, I am the lead and my daughter and her husband are on the reservation. I get sick and can't go. Afaik, my daughter and her husband can just go without me and I don't need to remove my name. Correct? I think people are freaking out the name change because they are commercially renting?

 

[DougEMG]

Aarh thanks

It’s a possibility that is how it works.

With that said, I will continue to use and rent my points as I see fit. If DVC has a problem with that they are more than welcome to me, and Ill adjust.

For now I don’t know if I should adjust at all and if I should what I should adjust to. According to what @Sandisw wrote owners are entitled to an explanation.

Same here. While this thread has been interesting to read and it did highlight to me just how bad the spec renting has gotten, it really just goes around and around in circles with us having no idea on what DVC may or may not do. So, I am just going to do what I have been doing and see what if anything happens.

What I am much more concerned about is when DVC gets around to loading my new VDH contract so I can book my DL trip for next April!

 

[mkatsy]

I skim and don't actually read a lot. It seems like people are having trouble changing the lead guest name? My question is does it matter if the overall number of people on the reservation is within the max allowed? For example, I am the lead and my daughter and her husband are on the reservation. I get sick and can't go. Afaik, my daughter and her husband can just go without me and I don't need to remove my name. Correct? I think people are freaking out the name change because they are commercially renting?

The exact names on the room become important for extra magic hours, day of arrival water park benefits, and in theory wristbands at pools BUT it has been my experience that as the lead guest they just hand me all the wristbands.

 

[VGCgroupie]

I skim and don't actually read a lot. It seems like people are having trouble changing the lead guest name? My question is does it matter if the overall number of people on the reservation is within the max allowed? For example, I am the lead and my daughter and her husband are on the reservation. I get sick and can't go. Afaik, my daughter and her husband can just go without me and I don't need to remove my name. Correct? I think people are freaking out the name change because they are commercially renting?

I have seen 1 report of someone not being able to change the name. I have seen many reports of people changing names so it's clear not even MS knows what the heck is happening.

I believe you can leave your name since they can check in on the app, but I would still try to change it if you can

 

[DougEMG]

There’s literally an attorney in this thread, who broke it down extensively.

As for the false theory that it doesn’t apply to timeshare condos . It’s funny how it did apply when it came to the structural assessment laws for condos that were passed, and Disney had to do structural assessments of all of our timeshares.

I just got a bunch of letters from DVC yesterday informing me that all the structural assessments had been done.

 

[disneylandtour]

Not diving back into the thread for debate so if someone feels the need to combat me Im not responding unless Im told to apologize for my words. But wanted to respond RE: the not allowing name changes potentially written in the contract.

I have been accused of being anti rental and the rental police in this thread. To be clear I am 100% anti commercial renting. Period. Spec rentals do happen to be what leads the way in commercial renting, whether some choose to believe that or not. I am onboard with Disney doing what it needs to do to eliminate commercial renting.

I am not onboard with not allowing name changes for reservations for average personal use owners. If they choose to go this route, I sadly will sell all my contracts unless the rules for banking are changed. I bought DVC partly due to its flexibility (renting) when needed. I never rented prior to becoming an owner because I do not like not having a flexible cancellation policy. If I cant make my trip 60-90 days out and I cant make another reservation for whatever reason I can rent that reservation without losing points (money). At 60-90 days I would be past my banking deadline and would lose those points. I am not in DVC to lose points. If the rules change that makes it so that is more likely to happen I would rather not be a member. The insurance coverage option isn't enough to get me to remain a member.

My stance after alllllll of this is still exactly the same, I trust DVC is not out to get us normal DVC owners and wont be doing anything that will have bad consequences for us that aren't in it as a money making endeavor.

I completely get it and mostly agree.

What I think would be helpful for everyone here would be to set up a thread where, for those who rent, they can post thier experiences going forward. So this, as I see it, is the underlying problem: DVD created an intentionally vague policy. To figure out what it means will require a set of examples. And from that we can see how this vague policy is developed into terms of practice. And that's all that really matters here, at least for most of the people posting, what does it mean in practice for those members who mostly visit the resorts themselves but may have a need to rent from time to time.

 

[keishashadow]

While this thread has been interesting to read and it did highlight to me just how bad the spec renting has gotten, it really just goes around and around in circles with us having no idea on what DVC may or may not do. So, I am just going to do what I have been doing and see what if anything happens.

If only Disney would actually manage to be crystal clear when they decide to put a policy like this into place and state it clearly & prominently where members can read.

To figure out what it means will require a set of examples. And from that we can see how this vague policy is developed into terms of practice. And that's all that really matters here, at least for most of the people posting, what does it mean in practice for those members who mostly visit the resorts themselves but may have a need to rent from time to time.

If only Disney would enforce, evenly across the board, whatever policy is put in place.

They need to state whether a member either can or cannot book a prime rental/time, (that might morph into a spec one) via transferring to another person down the road.

‘Renting points’ (whether to another member or a non-DVC guest) is a different animal IMO. Would think that should be disallowed until the 7 month mark. I’m sure would be quite unpopular with those who do rent every year.

Taking a prime rental/time out of play @ 11 months, or sooner possibly via walking, then selling the reservation, just doesn’t seem fair to the DVC membership as a whole.

If anything, why not consider limiting the transfer of confirmed reservations to a shorter window prior to arrival, say 2 - 3 months?