DVC Response About Ebay Commercial Sellers

[Anjelica]

Been lurking for a while, had to register after this thread....

Why should anyone believe her NOW? Its clear her account was only created to lie to 1st time renters and shill her properties, so now we should feel sorry when she CLAIMS to receive phone calls at home? She is (they are?) crafty, once the lies are out redirect people's attention and make them feel bad. I'm not buying it, and would bet she hasn't got a single call at home. Liars lie, one of life's simple rules.

Creditbility has certainly come into question so now why should we believe anything else that is stated by mush? I don't condone folks making threats, etc. but I really don't think we can trust anything that mush states from this point forward.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Creditbility has certainly come into question so now why should we believe anything else that is stated by mush? I don't condone folks making threats, etc. but I really don't think we can trust anything that mush states from this point forward.

Agreed. I went back and read all the posts from both of the IDs, and it is FULL of lies. Shilling is a lie turned sideways.

 

[tmt martins]

Ok maybe it's me but MUSH has been lying to us all for over what 4 or 5 years and now your going to believe her in that she's getting calls and E-mails show us some proof of that.

If someone continues to hide and decieve and now go back and try to retrace and sweep her/his tracks then why should we feel sorry now.

Now if it really happening then please stop this was not the reason to this entire thread . It's to educate on the Points and rental businesses that are breaking the rules.

Hopfully DVD will crack down and do something for our only duty is to report these things when we see them as they are.

 

[jdg345]

It wasn't the VWL "Sold Out Christmas" reservation, was it?

... jab?

 

[Mike]

Credible or not I find it ironic that she posted to this thread to complain about the calls

It's kind of like Jeffrey Dahmer protesting against the Veal industry

 

[keys2kingdom]

Been lurking for a while, had to register after this thread....

Why should anyone believe her NOW? Its clear her account was only created to lie to 1st time renters and shill her properties, so now we should feel sorry when she CLAIMS to receive phone calls at home? She is (they are?) crafty, once the lies are out redirect people's attention and make them feel bad. I'm not buying it, and would bet she hasn't got a single call at home. Liars lie, one of life's simple rules.

That's why I qualified my statement (#267) with a small "if". I really hope that DISers are not mean enough to do this and I like to think they aren't.

 

[Y-ASK]

Kind of hard to have sympathy for someone like this who obviously tried to deceive potential DIS'ers. I once thought about the idea of starting a kind of on-the-side points rental biz and even posted about it here over a year ago. Since then I've totally changed my opinion of such practices. I'll still rent my extra points but only to help pay my maintenance fees. I also once got two ressies at BCV to try and rent but ended up cancelling and renting the points to a renter who had their own dates in mind. Now I feel that what I did by tying up those two ressie was wrong. It's unfair to BCV owners or other members who might have liked to stay during that week. What ever phone/e-mail harrasement (as long as not threating) MUSH gets is certainly justifiable. Wonder how Steve (her hubby) feels about the whole issue? I know I can be a forgiving type as long as people learn from their actions .

Y-ASK

 

[jdg345]

I agree! I come over every now and then to check on rumors and everyone seems so holier than thou at times.

Sheesh ... it's not my fault I'm better than you ...

Just teasin'

 

[diznyfanatic]

FWIW, the third suspected associated ID named in this thread, has only posted once over a year ago, regarding the availability of a Fourth of July week OKW ressie.

It would never have occurred to me that people would do this kind of thing here. On eBay in general...yes, absolutely. Here...just wouldn't have thought it.

How often do you all think this kind of thing actually happens here?

 

[calypso*a*go-go]

I think we would all be surprised at how many people use multiple user names and sometimes even post against each other (themselves!) giving pro and con opinions just to stir things up.

Bottomline, it does look like Mushpurple may have slit her own throat by replying to this thread. But honestly, she isn't the real problem. A simple visit to the O.C. Comptroller's website will tell you who the real "business" culprit is...the plot thickens!!!

 

[Beca]

I think we would all be surprised at how many people use multiple user names and sometimes even post against each other (themselves!) giving pro and con opinions just to stir things up.

Bottomline, it does look like Mushpurple may have slit her own throat by replying to this thread. But honestly, she isn't the real problem. A simple visit to the O.C. Comptroller's website will tell you who the real "business" culprit is...the plot thickens!!!

Oooooohhhh!! Calypso...now who's "teasing"!!!

Man, I really want to know!! I'm gonna have to do some sleuthing of my own!!

 

[diznyfanatic]

I think we would all be surprised at how many people use multiple user names and sometimes even post against each other (themselves!) giving pro and con opinions just to stir things up.

Bottomline, it does look like Mushpurple may have slit her own throat by replying to this thread. But honestly, she isn't the real problem. A simple visit to the O.C. Comptroller's website will tell you who the real "business" culprit is...the plot thickens!!!

I could be wrong, but I think smw just made their feedback PRIVATE on eBay so that it can no longer be viewed individually. I don't think it was private when I looked yesterday.

You know what really is kind of sad is that, even though I think the whole process of people taking advantage of the point morphing loophole to rent commercially is very wrong and should be stopped, smw's eBay feedback is actually very good and has a lot of satisfied renters.

She/they didn't need or have to come to these boards and deceive people in order to pick up "business". Now they've pretty much ruined their credibility, even if they ever just wanted to do the right thing and get out of the commercial renting business and just occasionally rent their OWN points in the future.

 

[jdg345]

And this is even better! You seem to be the same person

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=915256

Wow who'd have thunk it??

:lol: I was just thinking that maybe the 'm' stood for "mush" ...

 

[keys2kingdom]

Bottomline, it does look like Mushpurple may have slit her own throat by replying to this thread.

Exactly, I would never have bothered with her if she hadn't been so sanctimonious in her initial replies on this thread. It was just so transparent I could hardly resist, plus she only had 70 posts (I'd have been way too lazy to look through too many more than that).

Now....back to calypso's challenge........

 

[minnie61650]

I could be wrong, but I think smw just made their feedback PRIVATE on eBay so that it can no longer be viewed individually. I don't think it was private when I looked yesterday.

You know what really is kind of sad is that, even though I think the whole process of people taking advantage of the point morphing loophole to rent commercially is very wrong and should be stopped, smw's eBay feedback is actually very good and has a lot of satisfied renters.

She/they didn't need or have to come to these boards and deceive people in order to pick up "business". Now they've pretty much ruined their credibility, even if they ever just wanted to do the right thing and get out of the commercial renting business and just occasionally rent their OWN points in the future.

She did change the feedback to private.

I was watching 8 of her auctions. She changed the title of some like hare or on board and sold them (Probably to herself) for $1 or $2. The rest she ended early.

 

[jdg345]

So, when you combine "point morphing" with commercial renting, that is what is causing the majority of booking problems? Do the points being transferred in assume the home resort of the account they are being transferred into, rather than retaining their original home resort?

We closed on our first contract in the beginning of June and pretty much immediately added on and began to attempt to make reservations for our upcoming trips during the last week in October and for New Years Eve and Day and the first week of January.

I realize those are mega peak times and we got a late start due to the timing of when we closed, but out of 10 days we were needing, 5 of those were just days shy of being booked 7 months in advance, and only 2 of those days (right in the middle of course) were able to be booked at either one of our home resorts, for any type of room at all.

Two more of those days haven't come through at all for ANY room at ANY property. We are currently still waitlisted for New Year's Eve and New Year's Day for any resort.

We were able to piece together via waitlist for a 1 BDR all five nights of our October trip at OKW, which we also enjoyed very much, it would have just been really nice to be able to stay at our BWV home during F&W.

Like I said, I'm anxious to see what we will be able to book when we are able to take advantage of the full 11 month window for BWV and VWL.

That's exactly the issue ... pick up a few cheap OKW resales along with a small BCV or BWV contract ... then transfer those cheap OKW points into your BCV/BWV account and they become BCV/BWV points ... so, basically, you get your OKW points to be used at 11 months.

 

[Sammie]

The bottom line is everyone on the DIS is not in it for the Magic.

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Oh my, say it ain't so.

 

[jdg345]

Respectfully, I think it would be administrative nightmare to implement the tracking you suggest.

I don't feel all that bad for the members who are trying to do big family reunions with their points via transfers. If they can't get enough points via one transfer, they can still rent reservations from other members for that one time event.

I understand that most would prefer to have control over the points, but I don't think Disney or DVC should get into the business of deciding who is "worthy" of getting an exception or what "purpose" for transferring is OK. That is just a recipe for constant arguments and policy challenges.

If I were the decision maker, I would allow unlimited transfers (either direction) between contracts that had the same home resort and same use year.

Best wishes -

Agree! Though I don't think the use year should matter ... only the expiry ... they should be able to do that, they can do it when you borrow points.

 

[Sammie]

You bet I did. For all of you that have seem to fit to threaten me in email and call me at home. Please stop. Moderators please close or delete this post. Everone else no matter what your opinion or no matter what you think....I hope that you do not condone this. I emailed and asked that it be shut down, but as of yet that has not happened.

Please everyone...ever since some pointed out my number was in a post....people have been calling me.

Just Stop!

All you have to is block the emails and call your phone company to stop the calls. I doubt making a request here is going to help. However when you post your phone number and email on the Net you have to accept that this can happen.

 

[jdg345]

Credible or not I find it ironic that she posted to this thread to complain about the calls

It's kind of like Jeffrey Dahmer protesting against the Veal industry

Or perhaps trying to use it as an excuse to get this thread removed and protect the multiple identities and other items that have been quoted and retained?

I'm still curious about the booked 'prime' weeks ... sad