DVC prices tanking?

[BamaGuy44]

When I’m at DVC…and watch tv…and see endless ads…I remember, this is what tv was like during my childhood.

Ugh, I don't know how we did it. I would literally give up TV altogether if I had to go back to that. I have lost ALL patience for TV commercials. The only thing I ever watch "live" is college football, and the ads drive me crazy lol. 75% of them are for prescription drugs...Lots of smiling, happy people living their best life, while the audio is basically a list of horrifying side effects.

Wild.

 

[dvc lover 1970]

AKV has not been in the 50 dollar range since the real estate bubble popped in 2009-2013

 

[atthebeachclub]

Ugh, I don't know how we did it. I would literally give up TV altogether if I had to go back to that. I have lost ALL patience for TV commercials. The only thing I ever watch "live" is college football, and the ads drive me crazy lol. 75% of them are for prescription drugs...Lots of smiling, happy people living their best life, while the audio is basically a list of horrifying side effects.

Wild.

I had a patient the other day so irate about the expense of his brand name drug funding those drug commercial that he just picked up enough to get through the weekend and planned to call his doctor on Monday for an alternative with less advertising, based on principle alone.

At one time, drug commercials directed at patients were illegal. I would love to see how much of advertising costs to patients are borne by each prescription, and how much we all end up paying in higher overall prescription and healthcare costs due to consumer advertising. People may wish to go back to the old days of no ads if they knew what this costs us all. The fact that they advertise during football games tells us the advertising costs aren’t cheap.

 

[CastAStone]

I would love to see how much of advertising costs to patients are borne by each prescription

We’re way off topic but there’s companies that measure ad time and use it to estimate ad spend by spender; they sell that information to the advertisers competitors, but they usually make limited information available publicly (e.g. top ten lists) to get attention for themselves.

For example, https://www.fiercepharma.com/market...-tv-ad-spender-title-may-rexulti-close-second

 

[Sandisw]

Let’s not delve into advertising please and keep things related to DVC and current impact in resale pricing.

 

[Brian Noble]

Not advertising, but not really DVC...

We have other airlines in our international airport but they are all highly inconvenient. After a breakdown of tears and almost missing our flight to Hawaii I swore only Delta in the future no matter the cost.

...I live in a DL hub, so it is relatively rare that another airline has a routing that is convenient enough to make the savings worth it. That tended to make it easier to earn status on DL, which further tipped things in DL's favor. I recently crossed 1MM, which carries permanent DL Gold/SkyPriority Elite, which more or less cements it.

If you fly DL twice or more each year, one of their co-branded AmEx cards is a no-brainer: it pays for itself on waived checked bagage fees, allows you to board early enough to get a spot for your overhead, and provides a 15% discount on miles redemptions. Per TPG valuations, DL miles aren't great at 1.2 cents/mile. But with the 15% redemption discount, they get bumped up somewhere between "not too bad" and "pretty good". The last flight I booked with miles was 1.38 c/mi, which is more or less right in line with that.

Maybe the bigger problem is that DL is often on the more expensive end for a trip--and sometimes by a lot. In exchange the DL flight is usually non-stop vs. a competitor which has a connection. I'm at a point in my life where I am willing to pay for that convenience.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Not advertising, but not really DVC...

...I live in a DL hub, so it is relatively rare that another airline has a routing that is convenient enough to make the savings worth it. That tended to make it easier to earn status on DL, which further tipped things in DL's favor. I recently crossed 1MM, which carries permanent DL Gold/SkyPriority Elite, which more or less cements it.

If you fly DL twice or more each year, one of their co-branded AmEx cards is a no-brainer: it pays for itself on waived checked bagage fees, allows you to board early enough to get a spot for your overhead, and provides a 15% discount on miles redemptions. Per TPG valuations, DL miles aren't great at 1.2 cents/mile. But with the 15% redemption discount, they get bumped up somewhere between "not too bad" and "pretty good". The last flight I booked with miles was 1.38 c/mi, which is more or less right in line with that.

Maybe the bigger problem is that DL is often on the more expensive end for a trip--and sometimes by a lot. In exchange the DL flight is usually non-stop vs. a competitor which has a connection. I'm at a point in my life where I am willing to pay for that convenience.

Yeah all these credit card blogs say Delta cards aren’t the best options but I’m leaning that it might be for certain people. Especially if I’m going to just use other cards points to book a Delta flight.

I actually have quite a bit of free southwest money to use but the flights they now offer and the airline location within the airport just makes it not even worth free.

 

[tom1944]

We fly United from Newark most of the time although we are just as close to Philly.

My neighbor flies Frontier for way less than we fly United. They fly 5 and we fly 4 and he still pays about $500 less.

I will not switch because every trip he takes there is a problem. Last trip he spent 22 hours waiting in Mco for some reason.

If I ever faced that because I wanted to save money the divorce would eliminate any money I saved.

 

[atthebeachclub]

Yeah all these credit card blogs say Delta cards aren’t the best options but I’m leaning that it might be for certain people. Especially if I’m going to just use other cards points to book a Delta flight.

I actually have quite a bit of free southwest money to use but the flights they now offer and the airline location within the airport just makes it not even worth free.

Have you looked at Alaska, now that they are combining with Hawaiian? They used to be my fave airline and credit card, when I lived near a hub.

 

[AstroBlasters]

On the topics of flights and DVC…. how do we feel about flying into Tampa on a Saturday night and then doing a one way rental to WDW in late March?

 

[supercarrie]

On the topics of flights and DVC…. how do we feel about flying into Tampa on a Saturday night and then doing a one way rental to WDW in late March?

How much cheaper is the flight? I've driven back and forth between Tampa and WDW several times. (I had a surgery in January in Tampa and chose to recover at SSR before flying back to SoCal, and had a couple pre op appointments over prior WDW trips, too.) The drive is super easy, almost entirely along I-4.

 

[AstroBlasters]

How much cheaper is the flight? I've driven back and forth between Tampa and WDW several times. (I had a surgery in January in Tampa and chose to recover at SSR before flying back to SoCal, and had a couple pre op appointments over prior WDW trips, too.) The drive is super easy, almost entirely along I-4.

Right now…. $1000 per person… but we would be using the $100 companion fare

I’m going to wait until Dec to book….

 

[davidhr]

On the topics of flights and DVC…. how do we feel about flying into Tampa on a Saturday night and then doing a one way rental to WDW in late March?

I do this all the time. I find driving from/to Tampa just slightly more inconvenient than MCO, but often find much cheaper flights.

 

[Disdreaming479]

We’ve driven from wdw to Anna Maria Island a few times and the drive is not bad unless there is heavy rain. The problem is if the return flight is early. Then it’s really not convenient.

 

[kanerf]

I used to fly American all the time to MCO from the D.C. area, but I recently switched to Delta for one simple reason. Delta let's me upgrade to First on most flights using points. American does not. I don't have status on Delta either, but I do have several of their Amex branded credit cards. One of them grants me club access, so that is a nice bonus as there is a Sky Club in DCA and in MCO.

 

[Sandisw]

On topic please.

 

[Jimsboy]

How much cheaper is the flight? I've driven back and forth between Tampa and WDW several times. (I had a surgery in January in Tampa and chose to recover at SSR before flying back to SoCal, and had a couple pre op appointments over prior WDW trips, too.) The drive is super easy, almost entirely along I-4.

I live in the area and I hate driving I-4. Most times of the day it is a parking lot especially from Polk county to WDW.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Have you looked at Alaska, now that they are combining with Hawaiian? They used to be my fave airline and credit card, when I lived near a hub.

The Alaska flights all have stops from my airport. I feel like my home airport sold its soul to Delta and why it the only convenient airline out of there.

 

[atthebeachclub]

The Alaska flights all have stops from my airport. I feel like my home airport sold its soul to Delta and why it the only convenient airline out of there.

That’s why I can’t fly them now. They’d go to the west coast first before going to Orlando. Basically you have to be cool with probably stopping in SEA.

 

[Unclelude]

On the topics of flights and DVC…. how do we feel about flying into Tampa on a Saturday night and then doing a one way rental to WDW in late March?

We have done this a couple times, It's not bad... There are more publix/liquor store options on the way too .

I generally don't like flying out of Tampa... ( gas station stuff, freeway setup etc...) ... And multi-city flying out of MCO has worked out...

Good luck!

( Lol, we once drive 3 hours to a smaller regional allegiant airport, it was over 3k cheaper ( with the gas) for family of 5)