DVC Pools, Pool Hopping, Etc.

Originally posted by manning
Sadly this long thread has proved only that:

...We ain't going to solve it.

Oh, I don't know about that.

Whenever we're at WDW I always load the number of our resort's frontdesk into my cell phone speed dial. I take it along when we go to the quite pools and if we encounter excessively loud or obnoxious behavior I just make a quick call and speak to the manager on duty.

Works every time.:sunny:
 
Originally posted by Happy Birthday Cat
Yes it does but it is exactly what I've been saying all along in this discussion. Kids are fine in the "quiet" pools as long as they are respecful of others. They don't have to be silent and a family certainly shouldn't have to keep on walking if they see an adult using the area.

HBC
Yep exactly :) :)
 
WOw it seems to be more of a problem then I have seen I would say our last 9 trips to WDW we never encountered a problem at any of the pools, the water parks are a different story, but never the resort pools.. No matter if they were value to moderate either.
 
Originally posted by Dean
SNIP
so I could make the point. That is that the incident has no bearing on Disney's "interpretation" of the quiet pool in contrast to the feature pools. It was simply a managers response to an abusive situation.
I disagree. There are certain rules and guidelines that are universal property wide at WDW, that all CMs are instructed in, especially resort managers. It has nothing to do with "interpretation", the rules not being followed can be blamed on CMs who are lax and not following the rules but it has nothing to do with "interpretation".
 

Originally posted by wdwa1
I disagree. There are certain rules and guidelines that are universal property wide at WDW, that all CMs are instructed in, especially resort managers. It has nothing to do with "interpretation", the rules not being followed can be blamed on CMs who are lax and not following the rules but it has nothing to do with "interpretation".
It has been very clear over the years that there is no official Disney policy relating to "quiet pools". This was simply a SECOND HAND report of an incident where reportedly the manager was dealing the mother of two kids that were obviously miisbehaving and exhibiting behavior that was not appropriate at any pool. The report that he instructed there were better places to act such wasy other than the "quiet pool" has real no meaning. Even at face value this is clearly not an issue of Disney or DVC policy. And since this is a second hand report it has even less meaning. To be honest, it's likely less likely to represent Disney's official policy than those of us who have been experiencing Disney regularly for more than 10-15 years. To use this as an example of Disney Policy is way out in left field at best.
 
You are certainly entitled to your "opinion". As am I. I happen to not agree with a single word of your "opinion".
 
Originally posted by wdwa1
You are certainly entitled to your "opinion". As am I. I happen to not agree with a single word of your "opinion".
Your right to disagree of course. In reviewing the POS, the pools are included as an asset and privilege. I would think any material change in usage would require a vote of the BOD and possibly he members themselves. And I would see the issue in question as a material change (to make a pool adult only or nearly so). Plus I am aware of no official or written info from Disney from ANY of their resorts qualifying the restrictions on any pool other than those of safety like running, diving, pool toys and the like. And to be honest, I'm not aware of any true indication from Disney as to a different standard at the "quiet pools" as this obviously cannot be used as such. If you have something in writing, I'd love to see it. Besides I'd venture to guess that many people on this board know more about Disney than the majority of the employees including a number of managers. We've all had instances dealing with MS or a resort where we've been told incorrect info including managers and supervisor.

Disney has had ample opportunity to address this issue. Their lack of any direction speaks volumes.
 
/
I was not referring to any changes being made to limit certain pools to adults only???? I really have no idea how you got that from my posts????
What I was addressing is that I do believe there are certain property wide guidelines for the quiet pools vs the main pools at WDW. Myself and many others have heard these distinctions regarding the pools from various CMS at many WDW resorts, over the years. Whether or not the CMs enforce these guidelines, is a different story. Just because you have never seen anything in writing given out to guests, does not mean this is not a guideline/rule that the resort CMs are instructed on. There are many CM rules/guidelines that CMs are instructed on that are not published for the resorts guest's reading pleasure.
We have been going to WDW on a very regular basis (1-4 trips a year) since 1976, btw. So we also have our share of WDW & WDW resort experiences to base our opinions on.
 
Um, I truly respect all of the CMs who, given nearly impossible guest expectations, still manage to keep the pixie dust flowing - and a smile on their faces. However, if you tried to compile "Disney policy" based solely on what CMs, Managers and Supervisors tell guests in individual encounters, you'd quite simply go mad. Some of the most contentious issues discussed here (pool hopping, room capacity, mug refilling, etc.) are issues solely because, over the years, well-meaning guests are told many different answers to the same question. Add to that the concept that in some cases, while Disney may have a policy, it enforces it selectively - or not at all.

And an experience of mine - way back in the mid-90's - sums this all up: [Anecdote warning: no factual support]. My wife, son and I were checking into the CR (Tower, facing MK woo hoo) and I asked the CM a question about watercraft rentals - what age you had to be (a big issue for DS). She wasn't certain, and asked two manager/supervisors who happened to be chatting behind her. While I was only 3 or 4 feet away, I witnessed them arguing about the issue - one thought it was one age, the other vehemently disagreed.

My personal opinion (yep, I know you've all been patiently waiting) is that Disney needs to publish (I think the legal term is "give notice") of the rules, and then enforce them in a consistant way. Otherwise, the guests, and CMs, and managers, and supervisors have no idea what's expected, what's allowed, and what's prohibited.
 
Originally posted by wdwa1
I was not referring to any changes being made to limit certain pools to adults only???? I really have no idea how you got that from my posts????
What I was addressing is that I do believe there are certain property wide guidelines for the quiet pools vs the main pools at WDW. Myself and many others have heard these distinctions regarding the pools from various CMS at many WDW resorts, over the years. Whether or not the CMs enforce these guidelines, is a different story. Just because you have never seen anything in writing given out to guests, does not mean this is not a guideline/rule that the resort CMs are instructed on. There are many CM rules/guidelines that CMs are instructed on that are not published for the resorts guest's reading pleasure.
We have been going to WDW on a very regular basis (1-4 trips a year) since 1976, btw. So we also have our share of WDW & WDW resort experiences to base our opinions on.
We can certainly agree to disagree. I believe this thread is the first time I've ever seen anyone say they were told there was any type of different standard in any form. Although I don't really belive that's what was intended by the manager quoted. And as I said, I don't see how this could be enforced legally or practically. I wouldn't be surprised if certain cast members took the name literally as some in this thread have. I remember a thread a few years ago, I think it was 1999, about this very topic. At the time it was actually difficult to find where Disney referred to them as quiet pools. There were few places where they did. I think the burden of proof would be to prove there is a different standard for the "quiet pools" and ther really is none in spite of your feelings otherwise.
 
Originally posted by wdwa1
I was not referring to any changes being made to limit certain pools to adults only???? I really have no idea how you got that from my posts????
I haven't read that from anything you posted either. But hay, I think those who promote anything goes at the quiet pools have convinced me, I give in. If ya can't convince them, join them. Perhaps my wife and I should just leave our kids off at the pools, even though they are very young, and then go and enjoy the parks and activities for ourselves. The lifegaurds at the pools keep an eye on them for us. Perhaps we'd be able to go several hours, have many, many drinks, take a nap, and head back to the pool to pick them up later. It would be nice if someone at the pool was able to change the baby's diapers while we are out, but I guess you can't have everything. Even if they've had terrible behavior, nobody will really bother us about it, hay, the yelling, screaming, throwing objects and disturbances are just kids being kids, whether it's the quiet pool or other pools. You've got to have the loud ringing sound of "Marco - Polo" to make it a real vacation, no matter how long the game goes on. It's so cute when the kids scream that at the top of thier lungs. Well, I've got to try to find out where the kids are right now and at least get them out of the street, the little one needs his bottle and weekly bath.

:rockband: "come on and listen to a story about a man named Jed, a poor mountainer barely kept his family fed, and then one day he was shooting at some food.......":rockband:


:jester:
(Hay I know the above is not what anyone means, just trying to throw a little levity into a pretty long thread. May everyone enjoy thier wonderful stays and pool time at DVC with or without those cute, cuddly little children some of us have been so fortunate to be blessed with.)
 
Originally posted by Dean
SNIP
I think the burden of proof would be to prove there is a different standard for the "quiet pools" and ther really is none in spite of your feelings otherwise.
There is also no proof that there is NOT a different standard!
As I said before the CMs are instructed on many guidelines/rules that guests are not privvy to/aware of. CMs being lax in enforcing guidelines and rules(even ones published in guest literature!!), has always been a problem at WDW.
 
Originally posted by wdwa1
There is also no proof that there is NOT a different standard!
As I said before the CMs are instructed on many guidelines/rules that guests are not privvy to/aware of. CMs being lax in enforcing guidelines and rules(even ones published in guest literature!!), has always been a problem at WDW.
I've been to WDW and DVC as many times and almost as long as you have and I NEVER recall hearing of a different standard from a CM or any official source. Only members complaining. Being that as it may, there is no way to have a different standard if it is not published and noticed. CM are also VERY frequently wrong and make up rules as they go along, which seems to happen more frequently when DVC is involved even than just WDW in general. As for enforcing the rules, that's a different matter. I absolutely agree that WDW should enforce the rules. No smoking in NOS units, enforce occupancy limits, don't give away asigned units because someone is complaining, etc, etc, etc. Here's a similar thread from 2001. No one mentioned any direct or indirect communication with DVC regarding the issue then or any other time it's come up that I recall. I'd love to see specific examples.

As for not proving there's not a different standard, there's no reason to. There are no signs, to notes in the paperwork, no CM going around warning people, no communication in the VM or on the website. By not addressing this issue over many years, WDW and DVC has spoken Loud and Clear.
 
I agree; we just have to agree, to disagree. Our experiences and the experiences of others we have spoken with, are very different from yours. We have had/overheard CMs state different guidelines/standards for the WDW resort quiet pools on several occasions. Also from a story posted earlier on this thread it appears some resort managers also have the same guidelines.
I am certainly not trying to disrespect you, but I put much more faith in what I have been told by a CM and what a resort manager says, over the opinion of a stranger on an internet discussion board.
Any way, I am done going round and round over this. You have your opinion and experiences and we have ours. Maybe we will see you around the pools someday! :wave:
 
Originally posted by Desperado
We've been exposed to safety risks by parents who provide little to no guidance to thier children, and had to step in.

IA with this. I'm a new DVC owner, have not been to any resort yet on points, but stayed at AKL a couple of weeks ago with dh only. Some of the behavior of the bigger kids there (throwing things, running, etc) would have inspired me to take my little ones (3 of them 5 and under) to a quiet/leisure pool just to keep them safer. (of course AKL does not have one, so something I'll keep in mind for future visits!) That being said, I'd make sure my kiddos knew that playing and laughing and talking were ok at this quiet pool -- yelling, screaming, etc are NOT.
 
boy this post is old.

I really wish that they had an adult only pool - then all the teenagers plus the drunks would go there. Every teenagers I have ever meet thinks he/she is an adult!!!

have my favorite pool listed as the kids or children's pool - the kids generally go to bed around 9Pm - sounds perfect for me!!!

kids are generally alot less upsetting than the drunks....they also take hints better.
 
Well - I couldn't read every page - but I've read a bit and thought I'd add a litttle.
When we went to the Miller Road "quiet" pool at OKW a few weeks ago I noticed a playground right next to it - it was just screened from the pool by some vegetation. Now - it wouldn't make a lot of sense to have a playground designed for 3-12 year olds next to a pool unless that age group was expected to be using the pool as well. I have no idea about any other quiet pool on property - but thought that was notable. And anyone who expects 3-12 year olds to be sedate at a pool is from another planet. Well behaved - yes - but well behaved doesn't really include being quiet.
When we went to the pool with our 6 and 7 year old boys, I told them not to jump in next to adults who were in lounge chairs, and that if they screamed, they had to sit out. But there is a certain decible level that comes with a pool that cannot be avoided in boys this age! If the big pool had been opened, we probably would have just walked over there. But even so - my kids were well behaved, just splashing, laughing, etc.
As far as DCL having adults only sections - they did that for monetary reasons - there are a lot of DINK's (dual income no kids) out there and Disney wants them to cruise with them!
 
Kristy - all the quiet pools have a playground - plus picinic tables and a grill.

Adults can be much worst than kids any day!
 
<It just shows me how far down WDW has fallen in the past years. They opened up the place to everyone when they built those value resorts.>

That's quite insulting. You are assuming that people who use the value resorts are not of good conscience, or not decent people? I'm stumped on this one. I own at DVC, & have chosen to stay at deluxe or moderate resorts before owning DVC, but that doesn't mean I'm above those who wisely choose a way to save money on hotel rates. I'm staying at Pop Century for my one night of my upcoming stay, and frankly, I'm insulted by your flaming of value resorts and those who chose to stay in them.
 
Sorry, but I just had to dig this dinosaur back up! Last weekend we stayed at OKW, which was great! Anyway, coming back to the resort on the bus late Friday night, after MNSSHP, a young woman sitting across from me was talking rather loudly about her plans for the next day. She was going on and on about this great pool she planned to take her kids to. She was talking to older folks (grandparents?) and it was clear that she was talking about SAB! I'm pretty sure she was staying at OKW because here it was almost 1a.m. and that's where she was getting off. When we checked in at OKW we were reminded of the pool hopping policy, and it was also front page in the little newsletter they give you. I have a tendency to be nosey, so I just kept my mouth shut, but then I worried that they would be "busted" and the kids would be upset at not getting to do SAB. Would any of you have said anything to her? This issue is much more upsetting to me than occupancy. We bought at BCV specifically for the 11 month window to get to use SAB! Also, the whole place was pretty packed so they may have been checking IDs. We went swimming at SSR the next day, which was beautiful, and they were not checking, but it wasn't crowded either.
 



















DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest

Back
Top