palhockeymomof2
DIS Veteran
- Joined
- Nov 14, 2001
did the long island ny area receive their book yet??
we haven't received ours yet
did the long island ny area receive their book yet??
I may be off the mark, but I think the reason that so many of the posts in this thread have expressed disappointment over the point reallocations is that many new members (like myself) have not yet had the benefit of years of DVC trip planning and experiences to weigh against this sudden change.
I haven't revisted this thread from the beginning in a while, but I do remember seeing a fair amount of disappointed posts from new AKLV owners (again like myself). Though it may be good in the long run for the points to be reallocated the way they have been, it is still a big shock to new owners who may have not even taken their first trip home yet to suddenly have to think about changing the way they were planning on using their DVC points.
In ten years, when I am at my home resort on a Saturday night using less points than I would have on a Saturday night in 2009, I will likely be content with the reallocation. But right now, while I am still trying to figure out how to make my planned 2011 vacation work now that the points needed have gone up by about 15% from 2010, I am still feeling very frustrated and I think that is what it boils down to for a lot of the frustrated posters who have expressed their disappointment here.
we haven't received ours yet
When I bought in Dec. at BLT I was told that the Point chart had just changed. And that it only changd twice before in 15 years. So when it changed again for 2011 and I hadn't even had my 1ST trip yet... well I was a little mad. I'm used to going the last week in April and now have to move it to May. No big deal. But that's not when I wanted to go. Can't do anything about it, but I don't have to like it either.
Nancy
DVC has just moved around the points between weeknights and weekends. The total amount of points for each resort can not change, be they are allowed to reaalocate point values for different nights and seasons. It looks like DVC is trying to balance out weeknights and weekends and this is causing many members stress because they bought their point allotment with weeknights in mind...Sorry in advance if this has been discussed before.
I don't check my DVC stuff every day, and usually only look at the points chart when I am making a reservation.
We have been members since 2001, and when we bought our DVC, one of the selling features was that we were told "the points will never increase" for reserving the DVC resorts.
Well, now it appears that they HAVE increased. For example, in 2009, Sun-Thurs in the Magic Season for a BWV Preferred view was 40 points/day. In 2010, the same room in the same season is now 44 points/day.
The weekly rate for a one-bedroom at our home resort, VWL, in Magic Season used to be 270 points. Now it is 272.
So, what's the scoop? Why did this happen, and is this not quite the truth from what we were told when we bought our DVC?
Thanks for any info/insights!
We have been members since 2001, and when we bought our DVC, one of the selling features was that we were told "the points will never increase" for reserving the DVC resorts.
As for the communication, yes, I agree that there seems to be a lack of that. Why didn't DVC put this information about the point reallocation in the Disney Files magazine? (Or maybe I missed that too . . . ).
OK, so it seems the biggest change is increased points Sun - Thurs, and decreased points Fri - Sat.
I may be off the mark, but I think the reason that so many of the posts in this thread have expressed disappointment over the point reallocations is that many new members (like myself) have not yet had the benefit of years of DVC trip planning and experiences to weigh against this sudden change.
Agreed...but I'm more interested in what drove this change, meaning there must have been some fairly significant shift in the dynamics of DVC usage in general, what caused that??
Agreed...but I'm more interested in what drove this change, meaning there must have been some fairly significant shift in the dynamics of DVC usage in general, what caused that??
As I noted earlier in this thread, and in last years, my info suggests a change should have been made in 2000-2001. The discrepancies have been further exaggerated by the evolution of the small point add ons and specifically the SSR development. Members have become more and more sophisticated at using the system as set up, the internet has certainly exaggerated the options even further. But there is one more component that I believe has changed, those in charge previously seemed too afraid to upset even a subset of the membership that there were frozen from doing what they knew should be done.Interesting, Chuck, and I'm sure this has all been covered in the the previous pages so I apologize if I'm just rehashing...but my top reasons for the changes in no particular order would be...
1. More small add-ons becoming available via resale as the program ages. Meaning people who bought a small add on of 50-75 points years ago selling those off. While Disney requires a 150 minimum it is possible to only own 25 if you bought through resale, the smaller the contract the less likely weekend points are involved in the stay.
2. Internet sites/message boards which make finding information about the opportunity to stay Sun-Thur much easier and also make it much easier to rent those type of reservations.
3. Doubling the size of DVC in 5 years with AKV and SSR under the full court press of "Best Kept Secret" whose entire marketing premise was that you can stay DVC for far cheaper than regular resorts, and that the ultimate "cheapest" way is Sun-Thurs. I think to a certain extent the point charts are a victim of DVC's marketing success.
None of these in of themselves are bad its just the natural evolution of DVC.