DVC Point Charts for 2011 - Post chart release discussion begins on Pg 14

[missy2217]

I remember when you bought. You weren't the best candidate for DVC even then. It doesn't surprise me that you aren't happy.

 

[backyardponder]

OP stated she was told that 270 points would always get her a 2BR for a week. Looking at both SSR and AKV, which were probably the active resorts when OP bought, this was true for Adventure and Choice Seasons. It is still true.

 

[DizGirl20]

We just bought into DVC so I am sorry to hear that you are not happy. Maybe it's time for you to sell (just a thought, not trying to be rude or anything)? That way you could hopefully get enough money to pay off the DVC loan and have enough left over to put towards your next vacation elsewhere?

Good Luck!

 

[keishashadow]

May I have your planner?

nutz, u beat me to the draw

im getting ready to try & buy one on ebay

 

[jimmaher69]

whats the deal with the planners? We are starting our second year in May, not sure what the planner is?

 

[bumbershoot]

Why is that so bad for Crisi to say? Whenever someone comes in and asks if DVC is a good idea, there are certain things that point the way to, or point the way from, DVC. I know that DH and I are borderline in terms of if we should have bought in or not. We went into it eyes open and aware, and we think we can make it work well.

Sometimes people remember things about other people...obviously Crisi remembered posts before the OP bought in. It's not a "judgment", I don't think Crisi is saying that the OP is bad...just that she wasn't sure it was going to make the OP happy back then.



I just hate that there are some guides who say things in certain ways that make people hear/remember/understand the wrong things! It makes me so glad for our guide, but so bummed for others.

 

[warpdarkmatter]

you think your unhappy i got mine today and all i got is a empty box with nothing in it

 

[jelliott04]

whats the deal with the planners? We are starting our second year in May, not sure what the planner is?

I don't know either!

What is a DVC Planner?

J

 

[pyrxtc]

Well, I bought in since my family had young children and my DH and I didn't want to stay in separate rooms to be with the kids. We don't use the kitchen or even the living room except for breakfast since it's there. We stay from Thursday to Tuesday or Thursday to Wednesday or Thursday to Monday (can't seem to stop myself from those Thursday arrivals) 270 was for a full week, last year it went to 272 and now to 273. Which all means borrowing every year from the next year. I tried to do the relax in your room vacation and not so much planning the last few times and got knocked on my **** both times. I just wish they would stop changing it. I used points for weekends every time and didn't worry about that they cost more since that is why I bought the right amount to cover it.

I don't know if it was right but it was certainly cheaper than renting them for every time we wanted to go or than paying cash for a 2 bedroom each time. Of course we wouldn't have been so much without owning either.

 

[Chuck S]

I don't know either!

What is a DVC Planner?

J

Basically a brochure with the point charts for the coming year included.

 

[tjkraz]

270 was for a full week, last year it went to 272 and now to 273. Which all means borrowing every year from the next year.

It's worth pointing out that if you are only borrowing 3 points per year, the net effect is that by 2057 (or whenever your ownership ends) you might only have enough points left for 3-4 nights instead of 7. By my rough calculation, by 2057 you will only have about 120 points left and none to borrow.

Example:

2011: Use 270 points, borrow 3
2012: Use 267 points, borrow 6
2013: Use 264 points, borrow 9
2014: Use 261 points, borrow 12
...and so on.

In many cases DVC did its best to keep the weekly rates the same but when you are trying to rebalance 5 weekday nights vs. just 2 weekend nights, sometimes that is impossible.

If you own 270 points and have only seen your weekly costs go up by 3 (about 1.1%), I really think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

 

[Luv2trav]

If unhappy then sell.. I don't get all the negative feedback or drama about the changes. You always have the option to sell if it doesn't fit your life anymore.

 

[n2mm]

I saw the 2011 charts a while ago and it was an eye openner. It will change how I do my trips in the future. I'm no longer afraid of weekend points now!

 

[mgroshans]

the trip we are taking this year we will be using 119 points. if we took the same trip next year, we would use the same amount of points, 119, but the amount of points at each resort is different (kidani- 4 points less, bcv- 4 points more), but still equals 119.

 

[staceymay00]

We stay from Thursday to Tuesday or Thursday to Wednesday or Thursday to Monday (can't seem to stop myself from those Thursday arrivals) 270 was for a full week, last year it went to 272 and now to 273. Which all means borrowing every year from the next year.

Maybe I'm missing something, but how is a 2 or 3 point increase for a week a big deal? I don't mean that in a snarky way, I am just not following why you are so upset. First of all, it does not sound like you go a fixed week every year where you use exactly 270 points to stay Sat to Sat or Tue to Tue, for example. You mention different lengths and days for your stays. It sounds like a lot of your stays include weekends without five weeknights. Are you sure the restructuring doesn't actually help you? I would think it would reduce points for someone staying Thurs to Tues, but increase points for someone staying Sun -Thurs.

Let's say you do stay exactly one week every year for 270 pts. Even if you borrow 3 pts the first year, 6 pts the next year, etc it will take about a decade before you don't have points to borrow. Maybe once every five years you have to cut out a night or pay cash for one night. Also, I don't see any way a week in value season is ever going to require twice as many points, a concern you expressed in your first post. They would have to lower points a lot in other seasons for that to happen.

It strikes me that maybe you are unhappy with other aspects of your DVC purchase, like you financed and now the payment is keeping you from doing other things or you only needed DVC accommodations for a short time and now you don't want/need those accommodations but you made a long term commitment. I do agree it is too bad that you were incorrectly told total points for a value week would never ever change, but honestly 2 to 3 pts seems really minor to me. Again, maybe since I'm new to this I'm missing something.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Well, I bought in since my family had young children and my DH and I didn't want to stay in separate rooms to be with the kids. We don't use the kitchen or even the living room except for breakfast since it's there. We stay from Thursday to Tuesday or Thursday to Wednesday or Thursday to Monday (can't seem to stop myself from those Thursday arrivals) 270 was for a full week, last year it went to 272 and now to 273. Which all means borrowing every year from the next year. I tried to do the relax in your room vacation and not so much planning the last few times and got knocked on my **** both times. I just wish they would stop changing it. I used points for weekends every time and didn't worry about that they cost more since that is why I bought the right amount to cover it.

I don't know if it was right but it was certainly cheaper than renting them for every time we wanted to go or than paying cash for a 2 bedroom each time. Of course we wouldn't have been so much without owning either.

So you are only seeing a 3 point difference???? Here I thought from your original post that you were talking about huge amounts of points different. We saw our weekly stay go up by a couple points last time, but they went down this time, so it all comes out in the wash. If you were talking about a 10 point or more increase, that might be different, but I don't think a 3 point difference should be so bad. Who knows, your stlye of trips might change over the years, and it might end up being to your advantage in the long run.

 

[gkrykewy]

On the other hand, we couldn't be happier! Our vacations almost always include weekends, so the reallocation does not affect us negatively.

And when we bought in 2007, one of the things that excited us was the prospect of using our points at rumored DVC resorts in the Contemporary and Grand Californian.

Less than three years later, we've already stayed at one of those, and have the other booked! Amazing!

Don't mind me; I'm still on a high from getting our Philadelphia/SNA round-trip tickets from Southwest for $220 per yesterday, for our trip to GCV (southwest just opened their flights into October)

 

[robandkelly13]

I am trying to figure out what happend here. We bought enough points to stay 10 nights in a 2 bedroom Savannah at Kidani. Well we just checked the points, on the 2011 chart and we are know 22 points short. This means it went up 26 points. It seems to me that Teachers get the bad end all the way around. We were looking at adding on during the Webcast, but there were no good deals. The cruise we can't go on because of work, and the black out dates. I know they revise points but 26 points that is absurd. If we add on 25 points there are no incenitives, and whose to say they won't change the points again the following year. I can't keep buying points to have the vacation I bought in the begining. I am just venting! Has this happened to anyone else?

 

[tjkraz]

DVC rebalanced the charts so that weekend nights went down in cost and weekdays went up. Previously weekends were priced at 2 to 2.5 times the cost of a weekday. That simply was not representative of demand so they made adjustments to compensate for member patterns.

Generally speaking most full-week costs stayed the same. Or if there were changes, it was only a couple of points one way or the other.

But if your 10-night stay includes a full week plus extra weekday nights, I'm sure the cost did go up.

You do have some options available. You could shorten your stay by a single night every year or every-other-year as needed, you could borrow the points and eventually skip a year. Depending upon the exact season, it could be 10 years or more before you would have to skip a trip. Or you could eventually look at adding-on. With borrowing being an option, you could go quite a few years before the add-on becomes necessary.

Hope that helps a little.

 

[dis2cruise]

did the long island ny area receive their book yet??