DUES Info! - All resorts dues have been released

[VGCgroupie]

I still have no idea what you mean here. The number of smiles checking in? Vibes? Responsiveness of bell services?

I can’t distinguish my cash stays from those on points. That’s not to say the service level is great. It’s not. Disney is a very mid-tier hotelier, generally a notch below a better business brand e.g. Westin. They are not good at solving problems whether you are on cash or points but at least they are consistent.

Not going to get into specifics. But I have seen many many complaints of problems in rooms and it almost ruining vacations, causing stress and being a huge inconvenience and management doesn’t respond in the same manner as they do for cash guests when things happen. If it’s never happened to you that is great.

On a personal note have also had MS mess up a reservation for me and since it’s point based reservation they say they can do nothing for you. Just sorry not sorry basically. This doesn’t happen to cash paying guests.

My point is Disney level service I experienced as a cash guest at Disney isn’t quite what I or others always experience as a DVC owner. Again YMMV and yes maybe there are too many entitled people.

 

[SkampyOne]

Just raise the minimum number of nights you can book. Instead of 1 night make it 3 nights.

Hard pass. As a "local" I almost always book just a single night at a time. Just enough to charge my batteries. It would also make it near impossible for me to grab my home resort & I struggle enough as it is at 11 months.

 

[Cyberc1978]

Hard pass. As a "local" I almost always book just a single night at a time. Just enough to charge my batteries. It would also make it near impossible for me to grab my home resort & I struggle enough as it is at 11 months.

That’s also fair enough. That’s why i suggested a housekeeping fee of $85 for 3 nights or less.

 

[SkampyOne]

That’s also fair enough. That’s why i suggested a housekeeping fee of $85 for 3 nights or less.

At that point it 100% becomes cheaper to book offsite. Would make zero sense for me to keep my points unless I can get family or friends to commit to an annual longer trip.

 

[Cyberc1978]

At that point it 100% becomes cheaper to book offsite. Would make zero sense for me to keep my points unless I can get family or friends to commit to an annual longer trip.

If the problem with increasing dues is partly caused by increasing housekeeping costs, then it would be more than fair that those who require more cleaning, in this case single night stays, pay a larger part of that increase.

 

[airjay75]

So, maybe, no minimum or charge, but what about this.
1 or 2 nights stay: 0 points
3 night stay: 1 point
4 night stay: 2 points
5 night stay: 5 points
6 night stay: 7 points
7 night stay: 10 points
(Or something like that - maybe we could figure out some other actions that would warrant points)

Then, once you accumulate so many points, you can cash them in. Could be for DGCs, credit on your annual dues, free or discounted MMB. That way, no one feels like they’re getting penalized from the current system, and are simply encouraged to do things that reduce costs for everyone else.

 

[Cyberc1978]

So, maybe, no minimum or charge, but what about this.
1 or 2 nights stay: 0 points
3 night stay: 1 point
4 night stay: 2 points
5 night stay: 5 points
6 night stay: 7 points
7 night stay: 10 points
(Or something like that - maybe we could figure out some other actions that would warrant points)

Then, once you accumulate so many points, you can cash them in. Could be for DGCs, credit on your annual dues, free or discounted MMB. That way, no one feels like they’re getting penalized from the current system, and are simply encouraged to do things that reduce costs for everyone else.

The problem with that solution is that who is gonna pay the DGC’ or credits towards your annual dues? Disney certainly won’t and if owners should, wouldn’t it go against our annual dues?

 

[airjay75]

The problem with that solution is that who is gonna pay the DGC’ or credits towards your annual dues? Disney certainly won’t and if owners should, wouldn’t it go against our annual dues?

I would think of it as being rebated that part of housekeeping dues because you caused less expense than other owners. So, yeah, they’d had to over collect for that line item. It’s really just the reverse of imposing a charge for shorter stays. Maybe it wouldn’t work under the POS - not well versed enough in that - but seems to me it could, in theory, work.

Of course, the point redemption values would have to be closely tied to the actual savings for the association.

 

[Cyberc1978]

I would think of it as being rebated that part of housekeeping dues because you caused less expense than other owners. So, yeah, they’d had to over collect for that line item. It’s really just the reverse of imposing a charge for shorter stays. Maybe it wouldn’t work under the POS - not well versed enough in that - but seems to me it could, in theory, work.

I’m certainly open for a change in that regards.

Problem with DVC changes is that we need to be careful what we ask for, DVC most likely won’t implement a change we like but more likely a change we don’t like.