DS injured at practice VENT

[3DisneyBuggs]

DS 14 started wrestling this year. AT practice today they were told to do a take down only. His partner took him down and DS told him okay you have to stop now. Well the kid said no and DS end up hurting his shoulder. The coach called me and said he thought it popped out a little. DS said he heard it crack. DH took him to the ER and it's not dislocated but he broke his collarbone. I don't know what the other kid thought he was doing and feel like my DS was assaulted. How do you go from practicing a take down to breaking someone's collarbone? I feel so bad for my DS. The past 2 summers he had to have leg surgery and now this. My DH better have a nice talk with the coach because this shouldn't have happened. I know I'm the mom but anyone else feel this is wrong? Or am I overreacting?

 

[Jennasis]

IMO injuries are part and parcel of being in sports.

 

[FayeW]

IMO injuries are part and parcel of being in sports.

Of course they are, and any parent with a kid in sports understands that. In this case, his team mate disregarded the coach's instructions and refused to stop. IMHO, he intentional actions injured the OP's son and there should be repercussions. If he can't obey the rules then he shouldn't be on the team.

 

[sonnyjane]

What kind of proof do you have that the other child kept going beyond the point when your DS said to stop? What was the coach's take on the event?

 

[happygirl]

DS 14 started wrestling this year. AT practice today they were told to do a take down only. His partner took him down and DS told him okay you have to stop now. Well the kid said no and DS end up hurting his shoulder. The coach called me and said he thought it popped out a little. DS said he heard it crack. DH took him to the ER and it's not dislocated but he broke his collarbone. I don't know what the other kid thought he was doing and feel like my DS was assaulted. How do you go from practicing a take down to breaking someone's collarbone? I feel so bad for my DS. The past 2 summers he had to have leg surgery and now this. My DH better have a nice talk with the coach because this shouldn't have happened. I know I'm the mom but anyone else feel this is wrong? Or am I overreacting?

Yes, I think you are overreacting. There is a chance that when your child plays sports they might get hurt. I think calling it an assault is a little overboard.

 

[cornflake]

Of course they are, and any parent with a kid in sports understands that. In this case, his team mate disregarded the coach's instructions and refused to stop. IMHO, he intentional actions injured the OP's son and there should be repercussions. If he can't obey the rules then he shouldn't be on the team.

It doesn't say that though. It says the kid said stop and the other kid didn't, not that the coach said to lay off.

If the coach had blown the whistle or said lay off and the kid refused and busted something, I'd be with you.

In this case, I think it's unclear what happened (in that it's wrestling and the other kid not stopping could be down to him thinking he was being tricked into releasing the hold and wouldn't until the whistle, or something similar, or that the OP's son just said 'you can stop now' and the kid said 'no' like he wanted to keep going, or the OP's son said 'stop!!' and was in obvious pain and the other kid said 'no' because he didn't care or six other things) and injuries are part of wrestling.

 

[FayeW]

It doesn't say that though. It says the kid said stop and the other kid didn't, not that the coach said to lay off.

If the coach had blown the whistle or said lay off and the kid refused and busted something, I'd be with you.

In this case, I think it's unclear what happened (in that it's wrestling and the other kid not stopping could be down to him thinking he was being tricked into releasing the hold and wouldn't until the whistle, or something similar, or that the OP's son just said 'you can stop now' and the kid said 'no' like he wanted to keep going, or the OP's son said 'stop!!' and was in obvious pain and the other kid said 'no' because he didn't care or six other things) and injuries are part of wrestling.

Did you not read the OP? The second sentence says "AT practice today they were told to do a take down only."

The instruction seems pretty clear to me.

 

[DebbieB]

I would talk to the coach. Hopefully he witnessed it.

 

[Sanchez]

Did you not read the OP? The second sentence says "AT practice today they were told to do a take down only."

The instruction seems pretty clear to me.

Do you believe everything you read? Let's see, story comes from son (who may or may not be embarrassed and looking for someone to blame) to mom (who is concerned about son and likely overreacting) to us. For the life of me I cannot understand why some people assume that things happened exactly as related by a third party to anonymous internet people.

I think OP is overreacting and looking for someone to blame. Wrestling is a contact sport and injuries are a certainty if you participate for any length of time. Part of a takedown is positioning yourself for the next move - it is not takedown then immediate hands off. Some takedowns lead to an automatic pinning combination such as a headlock. I can envision many scenarios where a takedown results in an immediate and often painful ground position. Sounds to me like OP's son hit the mat hard.

 

[npmommie]

Of course they are, and any parent with a kid in sports understands that. In this case, his team mate disregarded the coach's instructions and refused to stop. IMHO, he intentional actions injured the OP's son and there should be repercussions. If he can't obey the rules then he shouldn't be on the team.

Agree with this.

OP i would have a chat with the coach to see if he witnessed it.

 

[FayeW]

Do you believe everything you read? Let's see, story comes from son (who may or may not be embarrassed and looking for someone to blame) to mom (who is concerned about son and likely overreacting) to us. For the life of me I cannot understand why some people assume that things happened exactly as related by a third party to anonymous internet people.

I think OP is overreacting and looking for someone to blame. Wrestling is a contact sport and injuries are a certainty if you participate for any length of time. Part of a takedown is positioning yourself for the next move - it is not takedown then immediate hands off. Some takedowns lead to an automatic pinning combination such as a headlock. I can envision many scenarios where a takedown results in an immediate and often painful ground position. Sounds to me like OP's son hit the mat hard.

No, I don't believe everything I read, nor do I automatically assume teenagers are lying to their mothers. There is absolutely no evidence in the OP to make the judgement that the "OP's son hit the mat hard", yet that is the conclusion you have drawn.

On the other hand, from the OP, I was told that the instruction during the practice was for a takedown only, that the OP's son told his partner he had to stop, the partner refused to comply with both the original practice instruction and the reminder from his partner, and as a result he broke the kid's collarbone.

You read the same thing I read. I believe the kid. You believe he's lying to his mother and just hit the mat hard. Neither of us was there so I choose to believe the account from the injured kid who WAS there.

 

[jrmasm]

IMO injuries are part and parcel of being in sports.

I agree.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Why did you son say, "stop"? Was it because the injury actually happened DURING the instructed takedown & he was now in pain?

If he was injured post takedown, I'd probably be a bit miffed were it my kid, but talk of assault regarding an overzealous wrestling practice seems a bit of a reach. Wrestling is an injury prone sport. Someone had a black eye or bloody nose after practically every practice I was involved in back in H.S. and broken bones weren't unheard of either. In football, I was dealing with guys up to 100lbs heavier than me whereas in wrestling it was guys my own size. And wrestling was FAR more grueling.

 

[Sanchez]

No, I don't believe everything I read, nor do I automatically assume teenagers are lying to their mothers. There is absolutely no evidence in the OP to make the judgement that the "OP's son hit the mat hard", yet that is the conclusion you have drawn.

On the other hand, from the OP, I was told that the instruction during the practice was for a takedown only, that the OP's son told his partner he had to stop, the partner refused to comply with both the original practice instruction and the reminder from his partner, and as a result he broke the kid's collarbone.

You read the same thing I read. I believe the kid. You believe he's lying to his mother and just hit the mat hard. Neither of us was there so I choose to believe the account from the injured kid who WAS there.

You obviously read too much into that. I don't think I came to any real conclusions but it certainly seems plausible that a collarbone injury would result from hard contact with the mat.

I don't think you know much about wrestling but are ready to blame the other wrestler. And the word lying is a bit strong. My point is that when a story gets passed on the subtleties have a way of changing.

In any event, forget arguing about the details of the story. Unless the other wrestler intentionally injured OP's son I assert that OP is overreacting. Injuries happen in contact sports and if OP is not prepared to deal with that then perhaps wrestling is the wrong sport for her family.

 

[sookie]

In the end - you were not there. So there is no way you can know.

Injuries are part of being in sports. Usually, parents sign a waiver so their kids can participate. You can't hold the school, and usually another kid, responsible for injuries received during the course of usual practices or game play.

I have literally seen kids break a collar bone from falling off couches - hit at the right angle, they can break pretty easy. They are not very strong bones, believe it or not.

It sucks to see our kids hurt and we always want to protect them. I am so sorry OP.

If it were me - I know that I would be running through all the scenarios and I would want to protect my kid too. It is mama instinct. But logically, in the end, there probably is just no way to know what happened. I would voice your concerns to the coach and ask him what he thinks happened and let him take it from there. Maybe he can talk to the kid about being too aggressive or take further action if it was a big deal. But aside from that - there is nothing you can do directly. If you push it - you risk your kid not being allowed in the sport (unless you feel that your sons removal is needed).

 

[SaraJayne]

DS 14 started wrestling this year. AT practice today they were told to do a take down only. His partner took him down and DS told him okay you have to stop now. Well the kid said no and DS end up hurting his shoulder. The coach called me and said he thought it popped out a little. DS said he heard it crack. DH took him to the ER and it's not dislocated but he broke his collarbone. I don't know what the other kid thought he was doing and feel like my DS was assaulted. How do you go from practicing a take down to breaking someone's collarbone? I feel so bad for my DS. The past 2 summers he had to have leg surgery and now this. My DH better have a nice talk with the coach because this shouldn't have happened. I know I'm the mom but anyone else feel this is wrong? Or am I overreacting?

Yes, you are overreacting. Assault? Really?

 

[Allison]

Why did you son say, "stop"? Was it because the injury actually happened DURING the instructed takedown & he was now in pain?

If he was injured post takedown, I'd probably be a bit miffed were it my kid, but talk of assault regarding an overzealous wrestling practice seems a bit of a reach. Wrestling is an injury prone sport. Someone had a black eye or bloody nose after practically every practice I was involved in back in H.S. and broken bones weren't unheard of either. In football, I was dealing with guys up to 100lbs heavier than me whereas in wrestling it was guys my own size. And wrestling was FAR more grueling.

Yes, wrestling is a very tough, very physical sport. Kids get injured.

 

[rgf207]

Assault? Really? This is the funniest thing I read all day. Hopefully he doesn't play football too. We wouldn't want the other team charged with assault for tackling him

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[3DisneyBuggs]

OP here. Yes, the feeling like it was assault was mamma bear coming out. I do believe my DS about the takedown only. He was mad that it happened too. The kids wasn't stopping at takedown so DS told him to stop but he just went on. DH spoke to the coach but we are not making an issue of it. I know sports are rough but living through injuries is not fun. Thanks for all your input.

 

[Princess Dolly]

It's wrestling. Things happen. Wait until he is pressured to make weight. Maybe he isn't a good fit if he's asking his partner to stop.