Driven crazy - and not the usual stuff

Sigh. I'm sure I did something someone else thought was rude this past week, too.
exactly..... at the turnstiles, I know the deal- if a bunch of people are at one tapstile, I go right around them to the next empty one... you are supposed to be using all of them, not just one at time. Usually some people get annoyed,then follow suit. Same at bag check lines, lines where you aren't supposed to wait single file.... if you aren't listening to CM directions,then I will. I have never waited too long at bag check, simply b/c I'm paying attention to how the lines are moving,and following accordingly.(not cutting anyone, just can see how the sides are taken,etc)
That said, I would expect Moms to wait in the bathroom till their kids are done.
 
Let's see, I'll add...

People who stand in line for 20 minutes for quick service food, get to the cash, and THEN start discussing with their party what they might want to order. Seriously, people? Try to be prepared to order when you get to the cash!

Also, if you're able bodied and using the handicapped stall (which is fine), DON'T continue to tie it up by washing your hands at the disabled sink inside the stall! You're perfectly capable of using the same sinks as all the rest of us.

Finally, please have some consideration for your poor 5-foot-5-something adolescent son. Yes, he may have a hidden disability of some sort that prevents you from leaving him standing alone outside the washroom. Or he may be a VERY tall and well developed eight year old. But making him stand at the sink, staring uncomfortably down at his toes trying not to make eye contact with any of the women and girls around him, is just plain cruel. Maybe next time you could park him on a bench, or something. I'm sure no one's going to try to drag him away against his will.
 
Let's see, I'll add...

People who stand in line for 20 minutes for quick service food, get to the cash, and THEN start discussing with their party what they might want to order. Seriously, people? Try to be prepared to order when you get to the cash!

Also, if you're able bodied and using the handicapped stall (which is fine), DON'T continue to tie it up by washing your hands at the disabled sink inside the stall! You're perfectly capable of using the same sinks as all the rest of us.

Finally, please have some consideration for your poor 5-foot-5-something adolescent son. Yes, he may have a hidden disability of some sort that prevents you from leaving him standing alone outside the washroom. Or he may be a VERY tall and well developed eight year old. But making him stand at the sink, staring uncomfortably down at his toes trying not to make eye contact with any of the women and girls around him, is just plain cruel. Maybe next time you could park him on a bench, or something. I'm sure no one's going to try to drag him away against his will.

So agree with the bolded.

The one with people staying in teh bathrooms.

Disneyland in a few places seems to have bathrooms with like 20 stalls and only 5 sinks which created a HUGE jam with people being confused on if there was a line for the toilets or the sink or both.

One smart kid (and by kid she looked like 12) realized this was a cluster and stood just outside the bathroom to wait. Unfortunatly her mother that doesn't seem to share the kids intelligence (I assume it came from Dad) decided not only to berate her for this decision but to do it while standing directly in the door. When she didn't listen to excuse me I pushed right past her. Which of course meant she then had to scream a string of profanity at me... well at my back as I went about my business as the only reason I cared about the situation at all is I felt really bad for her poor daughter.
 
It blows me away how people treat meals in a place like this as the last time they will ever eat. Get in, eat your food and get out. I've read complaints here about places like Be Our Guest being too crowded and loud. If Disney made all these restaurants to our liking, nobody would ever get reservations or in to eat anywhere. They literally have to move tens of thousands of people though these places and I think they do an excellent job of it. I'd rather eat at Be Our Guest and be a little crowded instead of never getting the opportunity to eat there. It's the people that bog down the process.
 

And wait until your whole party is with you to get in a line. Don't block the entrance of the ride to wait on the kid to be unbuckled from his stroller, or for Grandma to decide if she wants to ride or not. This happened over and over and over and over again last week seems like.

It seems like the parks need traffic lights.....or a crossing guard
 
I also have a solution that we acted upon last month. It's called Disneyland and California Adventure. Very polite people, always helpful, nobody using the handicapped restroom stall that didn't need it, lots of places around both parks to sit and take a rest, etc. Can't wait to go back there.
 
I also have a solution that we acted upon last month. It's called Disneyland and California Adventure. Very polite people, always helpful, nobody using the handicapped restroom stall that didn't need it, lots of places around both parks to sit and take a rest, etc. Can't wait to go back there.

Personally I have no issue with people using the handicapped restroom stall, as long as they don't tie it up, washing their hands or preening in the mirror. It's there to provide equal access, it's not a reserved parking spot.

I think it's rather silly to have a line up waiting for stalls, with the handicapped restroom sitting empty and not a handicapped person in sight. I've been known on those occasions to say to the first person in line, "Are you going to use that?" check quickly with the others, and then pop in myself if no one else wants it.

After all, it's not like you'll catch handicapped cooties if you use it! (I will, however, tell a handicapped person behind me in line to go ahead, if the stall opens up in front of me, since I have more options than they do.)
 
I also have a solution that we acted upon last month. It's called Disneyland and California Adventure. Very polite people, always helpful, nobody using the handicapped restroom stall that didn't need it, lots of places around both parks to sit and take a rest, etc. Can't wait to go back there.
Those stalls are handicapped accessible, not handicapped only. So everyone else has to wait longer in the event someone may need it?
 
Those stalls are handicapped accessible, not handicapped only. So everyone else has to wait longer in the event someone may need it?

Well, when this someone who is pushing a person in a wheelchair is waiting, and waiting and waiting for the person in the handicapped stall to come out and many other people have had to go ahead of me, those "someones" are not waiting. I need it and I get tired of waiting and waiting and waiting and telling everybody in line (rather loudly) to go ahead of me because I am waiting for the handicapped stall. Usually when the person using finally comes out who has been using it like a reserved parking spot, they avoid eye contact and hurry by me. This happens all the time at WDW. Maybe you should count how many handicapped stalls there are per bathroom that will actually fit a wheelchair (maybe 2) before you judge. And no, not all that are marked handicapped will fit a wheelchair. Some are only big enough for a person needing hand rails or have a walker. Check it out and see.
 
I may be wrong about this but I've always thought that moving sidewalks and moving ramps (that either go uphill or down) are 2 different animals. On a flat sidewalk it makes total sense to me that people standing still should move to the side to allow walkers past. From my own experience, especially as I've gotten older and have some health issues that make me unsteady on my feet at times, I would be a danger to people if I was expected to walk either up or down a moving ramp. Have I been doing it wrong all these years?
 
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We got hit so many times by massive backpacks i lost count. Some person loaded like a sherpa turns around and bam! I get knocked into next Tuesday.
Yikes! I had to have my husband push me in a wheelchair one trip. Those backpacks were the scariest things ever. My husband wasn't really aware of them and I was like, "Please avoid the backpack." I almost got knocked in the head by one but I yelled enough to get the guy to move a bit, but I just know that was going to hurt!
 
I may be wrong about this but I've always thought that moving sidewalks and moving ramps (that either go uphill or down) are 2 different animals. On a flat sidewalk it makes total sense to me that people standing still should move to the side to allow walkers past. From my own experience, especially as I've gotten older and have some health issues that make me unsteady on my feet at times, I would be a danger to people if I was expected to walk either up or down a moving ramp. Have I been doing it wrong all these years?

Of course not! You should stand if you cannot walk up the moving walkways. But stand to the right. That way those would would like to walk can do so to the left, in the passing lane.

That said, I usually bypass the escalators for the stairs when I can because no one ever follows this etiquette. I only walk up the escalator on my morning and afternoon subway commutes because people who are regular subway commuters understand this. No one else seems to though. But there is no alternative at the Space Mountain exit, which is a shame...
 
I had a story about being polite, although it wasn't at Disney. We were on a bus in Oahu and an older woman got on. There were no open seats, so I stood up and gave her mine--which my husband should have done, but alas, he didnt. Well he paid for it because the woman was carrying just an awful smelling thing in a paper bag and he was dying until her stop. I told him that's what he got for not being a gentleman!
 
Of course not! You should stand if you cannot walk up the moving walkways. But stand to the right. That way those would would like to walk can do so to the left, in the passing lane.

That said, I usually bypass the escalators for the stairs when I can because no one ever follows this etiquette. I only walk up the escalator on my morning and afternoon subway commutes because people who are regular subway commuters understand this. No one else seems to though. But there is no alternative at the Space Mountain exit, which is a shame...
Of course, some communities post signs to help remind the locals and enlighten the tourists...
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We got hit so many times by massive backpacks i lost count. Some person loaded like a sherpa turns around and bam! I get knocked into next Tuesday.
Omg, I agree. What the heck do you need all that for? I guarantee they don't need or use half of what's in there.
 
What one person finds rude another doesn't. Seems comments about rude people end up basically saying "if everyone did it my way, things would be good". I try and remember, everyone is someone else's jerk, and many times, don't even know it. In a park filled with 30,000 people, even if everyone make one mistake in the day, everyone in the park will be affected at least once.

But I am not going to just let others dictate my time at the parks. One of my peeves is standing on the moving walkways. Especially the one leaving Space Mountain, that is a long way to just stand. I usually say really loud "please move to the right if you are not walking so others can pass" and then just start walking through people. Most of them are just patiently waiting, but I don't care how rude people think it is, I am not going to stand there for the whole length.
This is very true. My son has DAS for autism, and Merida is his favorite. Well I know I can't use it there, so as she left for the parade, I was the first in line. I sat there for an hour with DH talking to an awesome CM while my DD took the others on rides. The CM told me to do it, and with or without DAS I didn't feel guilty at all as all 4 of them joined us 5 minutes before she came back out. We were still ONE group that went up together- so we caused no additional wait for those behind us and don't care if it's perceived as rude. Now, those who do it and then push through an hour line to the front- another story. I try to use the rule, if it would annoy me, I don't do it, but I guess that would be different for everyone. So maybe we all need to have a little more patience and realize that what one considers rude, another may not- and isn't doing it just to tick everyone off.
 
Well, when this someone who is pushing a person in a wheelchair is waiting, and waiting and waiting for the person in the handicapped stall to come out and many other people have had to go ahead of me, those "someones" are not waiting. I need it and I get tired of waiting and waiting and waiting and telling everybody in line (rather loudly) to go ahead of me because I am waiting for the handicapped stall. Usually when the person using finally comes out who has been using it like a reserved parking spot, they avoid eye contact and hurry by me. This happens all the time at WDW. Maybe you should count how many handicapped stalls there are per bathroom that will actually fit a wheelchair (maybe 2) before you judge. And no, not all that are marked handicapped will fit a wheelchair. Some are only big enough for a person needing hand rails or have a walker. Check it out and see.

I think anyone, in any stall, ought to try to be as fast as humanly possible. But I also think they ought to try to be particularly efficient when using the handicapped stall. If you expect you'll be settling in for half an hour, please choose an ordinary stall, preferably at the far back, in a bathroom with more than three stalls (ie, not the one near the entrance to the World Showcase, please!).

I think people should refrain from using the sink in the handicapped stall - get in and get out, there are other sinks you can use.

But I do not think that all able bodied persons should refrain from ever entering the handicapped stall, leaving it empty at all times, just on the off chance that a handicapped person might happen to enter that particular restroom. It's definitely considerate to wave the handicapped person and/or attendant ahead, if the stall empties (since there's only the one), but they shouldn't expect to always find it waiting for them.

Sorry to hear that there isn't consistency, with regards to wheelchairs fitting. That must be a major pain!
 












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