Dressing and stuffing

Well, way down here in the deep south (and way out in the country!) our dressing could never be interchanged with stuffing. It wouldn't stay in the bird. So, not the same thing at all. Way too soupy for that and it doesn't go in the oven soupy, it comes out dry.

Gravy can be made with giblets or with pan drippings. My mom makes giblet gravy--she boils them and then proceeds to make gravy (no idea how) and it is wonderful. She doesn't leave the giblets in the gravy when she serves it. Mil and I both make it from pan drippings.

Oh, and dinner is what we have after church on Sunday afternoon or on any holiday during the day. Otherwise, we have breakfast, lunch and supper.
 
The Joy of Cooking differentiates between the two by saying it’s stuffing if you put it in the bird, and dressing if you serve it on the side, but the National Turkey Federation says that “both terms are used interchangeably.”

Me - I'll have both, thanks! :)
 
This is dressing--http://habee.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Make-Real-Old-Fashioned-Southern-Cornbread-Dressing-Step-by-Step

Not quite like mine, but close.


This is what I would call stuffing---http://www.hgtv.com/entertaining/southwestern-style-poblano-cornbread-stuffing-recipe/index.html


Dressing is moister or at least comparing the dressing I have eaten to the stuffing I have eaten. Stove Top (which I love) is nothing at all like dressing. Even if it does say its made with cornbread.

But, I agree with Jessica! I will have both!
 
"Country" isn't a bad thing...it's just extremely different than how I grew up and I give my BFF a hard time b/c she has "forgotten her roots". Yes, I give her a hard time b/c IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS, supper is a word that is used by the farmers/country folk....not someone who grew up in the inner city! Nothing BAD about being country. Some days I wish I was.

I, seriously, have a list of words that give me the willies, and supper is on them. Along with moist, supple, luscious, etc. DH and I add to it daily - it's how we pass some time on the way to work, lol. :thumbsup2

Ok, I understand. My DD has a list of words also. They include, Panties, noodles, tinkle, ( yeah I know, too much info) vomit , clothing, and moist. lol We try to use all of those words in a sentence to totally freak her out.
 

"Country" isn't a bad thing...it's just extremely different than how I grew up and I give my BFF a hard time b/c she has "forgotten her roots". Yes, I give her a hard time b/c IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS, supper is a word that is used by the farmers/country folk....not someone who grew up in the inner city! Nothing BAD about being country. Some days I wish I was.

I, seriously, have a list of words that give me the willies, and supper is on them. Along with moist, supple, luscious, etc. DH and I add to it daily - it's how we pass some time on the way to work, lol. :thumbsup2

Ok, I understand. My DD has a list of words also. They include, Panties, noodles, tinkle, ( yeah I know, too much info) vomit , clothing, and moist. lol We try to use all of those words in a sentence to totally freak her out.
Wow, that is so weird, the bolded words are also on my "nails on a chalkboard list". Add to that "tasty", "preggers" and "precious".
One of my English teachers in high school had a list of words he hated too. He told us if anyone ever said, "Purchase a tasty cookie." in his class they'd get an F. LOL
 
Ok, I understand. My DD has a list of words also. They include, Panties, noodles, tinkle, ( yeah I know, too much info) vomit , clothing, and moist. lol We try to use all of those words in a sentence to totally freak her out.

Gag...panties is on mine, too. I really have a LONG list of them. It's the nails on the chalkboard thing. I shudder thinking of them. So weird. At least I know I am not the ONLY crazy one!

(And yes, preggers, ressie, hossie, etc...are on there, too...).

This thread has derailed, that's for sure!!
 
This is the type we eat (not cornbread though) and we call it stuffing. It's almost like the texture of mashed (whipped really) potatoes but not airy and has a little more moisture to it. We cook it in the bird, under the skin and in a baking dish. We also make stuffing muffins as well.

You must make your bread finer than most stuffing I have experienced (its usually in big cubes when anyone around here makes it) But, yeah, when our dressing is cooked it would be about the consistency of whipped potatoes. Or at least MIL's is. Mine is a little chunkier as it has other stuff in it, but the cornbread part is the same. Never thought of it being stuffed under the skin, I always think of it as being in the cavity. hmmmmm--makes me think of trying something new!!! :)
 
There's another word for it in Pennsylvania. Filling.

So now you have three to deal with. :rotfl:

To me, it's all the same thing.

And in any case, Stuffing is Evil(tm)

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There's another word for it in Pennsylvania. Filling.

So now you have three to deal with. :rotfl:

To me, it's all the same thing.

And in any case, Stuffing is Evil(tm)

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I had an old James Beard cookbook that called it forcemeat.

Seriously. Who's ever heard of that?
 
I had an old James Beard cookbook that called it forcemeat.

Seriously. Who's ever heard of that?

I've heard of forcemeat, but never in the context of dressing/stuffing. I've always thought of it as extremely finely ground/pureed meat that is mixed with spices and then pushed back together into a solid brick or form. Gyro meat (the stuff they slice off the rotating spit) is what I think of when I think of forcemeat.

It is also a very gross word to think about!
 
I have never had my stuffing - from in the turkey - come out greasy?



I HAAAATE the word supper. It's one of those words on my list of "these words hurt my ears". It is VERY country to me. My BFF grew up in "the city" with me...always called dinner. She moved to a teeny tiny town and now calls it supper b/c of her farmer inlaws. I get on her every time about it, lol!

I bet you love people in Minnesota then, since the majority of them say supper.
 
I bet you love people in Minnesota then, since the majority of them say supper.

Ha ha! Not in the cities :) I only ever hear it when you get out of town...which is why it is sooooo foreign to my ears!
 
You must make your bread finer than most stuffing I have experienced (its usually in big cubes when anyone around here makes it)

Yes, we put the bread through a food processor to make bread crumbs. :)
 
I had an old James Beard cookbook that called it forcemeat.

Seriously. Who's ever heard of that?

Europeans or their offspring. It means finely-ground meat components. The term "forcemeat" is European; it means that it the meat is finely-ground along with some sort of fat or liquid, to turn it to a paste consistency that can be "forced" through a tube. Pâté is a type of forcemeat, as is the stuffing in most types of sausage.

I make forcemeat dressing (or if you prefer, stuffing, as I put it into the bird -- both ends, actually, both in the abdominal cavity, and also in that pouch under the skin that is created where the neck is removed; generally what is placed there cooks up a bit more dry.) I separately fry up oysters and pork sausage to reduce the liquor and the fat, then grind them together in a meat processor. I add that paste to the liquid ingredients of the dressing and mix it all up before I add in the bread component. I do it that way because while I like the flavor of oysters, I hate the texture of them, and there must be a lot of other people who agree, because the stuff I make is quite popular. (FWIW, I use both bread cubes and fine crumbs mixed together, it makes for a nice middle-ground texture.)

Mind you, I grew up in South Louisiana, where we use the term dressing quite loosely. It might be what is inside a roasted bird (oyster dressing or cornbread dressing), it might be what we pour on a salad (Italian dressing), it might be something that we cook in a saucepan and prefer to serve as a side dish with fried chicken (rice dressing), or it might be the act of putting condiments on a sandwich (y'all want dat dressed?) Nonetheless, I don't recall every being confused as to what was being discussed -- context would appear to be important, LOL.

BTW, on "dinner" vs. "supper"; traditionally, in the UK, only the upper classes had supper -- that was a posh word, and it accompanied the posh habit of eating later because of the necessity of changing clothing first. Then the middle classes decided to use that term for an evening meal because they wanted to use what they saw as the more "cultured" term for it, but since they had to get up to go to work in the morning, they tended to eat it earlier than the upper classes did. Originally, dinner was the mid-day meal, and for many working-class folks in the UK and Ireland, it still is. My folks were working-class Irish: we had dinner at noon and tea at 4:30 when Dad got home from work -- until my mother found out that Americans don't have a meal called "tea" and started calling it supper. So, ask any one in that part of the world and you'll be told that it is a "class" thing.
For fun, I'll close this with a piece of a funny article that the Manchester Guardian newspaper ran a while back; they spoke to a lot of well-known folks around the UK and asked them how they would define it, and in the end they humorously summed it up thusly:
The guidelines: Tea

When? 6.30pm, or whenever Dad gets home from work.
What are we eating? Fish fingers, chips, beans. And then a yoghurt.
Who's coming? You, your siblings, your parents, possibly a friend, so long as they've checked with their mum first.
Topics of conversation Shhh… Hollyoaks is on.
Tableware Not the good cutlery. That's for Christmas Day and Christmas Day alone.
Dress code Your school uniform, unless it's in the wash because you got it muddy at lunchtime.

The guidelines: Dinner

When? 7pm, or thereabouts.
What are we eating? One of those Marks & Spencer meal deals, bought on the way home from work.
Who's coming? Whoever's at home.
Topics of conversation Work, your journey home from work, that thing Joanna who sits opposite you at work does with her teeth that's really annoying.
Tableware A plate on your lap. Who has space for a table any more?
Dress code Whatever you worked in (although freelance writers may wear trousers as a point of etiquette).

The guidelines: Supper

When? 9pm, or later.
What are we eating? Something light and self-consciously rustic, usually cooked in a bloody Aga or something.
Who's coming? You, Rebekah Brooks, David Cameron and, indirectly, Robert Jay QC.
Topics of conversation Chipping Norton, NewsCorp's BSkyB takeover bid, whether or not Dave can lend you a horse.
Tableware Silver cutlery, ironed tablecloths, goblets full of children's blood.
Dress code Top hats left at the door. We're all in this together, remember.
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/03/tea-with-grayson-perry-supper-dinner
FWIW, an Aga is a brand of stove -- one without temperature controls or an off-switch; you judge the heat by how you fuel it.
 
NotUrsula, that article was absolutely hilarious. Although the topics of conversation may not translate well on this side of the pond.

Where we grew up dinner was the main meal of the day, no matter what time of day we ate it. Supper, OTOH, was the light meal or heavy snack that was prepared in the late evening before everyone went to bed. I think it originated in our family because Grandma and Grandpa were farmers and had to get up really, really early for chores. Breakfast didn't happen till after the cows were milked.

I seem to remember some of our Brit friends calling a very late night meal "supper" as well.
 



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