Dress code relaxed for adult restaurants

So you'd think you were being respectful if you wore shorts and a t-shirt to your friend's wedding? Attire is absolutely part of respectful behavior.
What are wrong with shorts and t-shirts? I see nothing wrong with that attire. I mean if you if you are having a wedding outside in the Florida heat what else would you be wearing but shorts and t-shirts. Let the elites wear their fancy clothes if it makes them feel better. Let the rest of us come as we are.
 
So you'd think you were being respectful if you wore shorts and a t-shirt to your friend's wedding? Attire is absolutely part of respectful behavior.
I don't think it is inherently disrespectful, no.

ETA: The fact that different churches, wedding, restaurants, social engagements have different dress codes clearly demonstrates that dressing fancy is not required to be respectful. So if Palo or Remy wants to relax their dress code for the same level of food and ambience, then there is nothing disrespectful about it.
 

So you'd think you were being respectful if you wore shorts and a t-shirt to your friend's wedding? Attire is absolutely part of respectful behavior.
Most of my friends would welcome shorts and a t-shirt at their weddings. Similarly, I can show up to a nearby two Michelin Star restaurant in jeans and not raise an eyebrow. In both situations I would still "read the room" when choosing my attire and adhere to any explicitly stated dress codes, but there isn't anything wrong with modernizing dress codes rather than kowtowing to outdated expectations.
 
FWIW I find fancy clothes restrictive and uncomfortable, not too mention sometimes much more expensive than casual clothing. My husband and daughter hate dressing up even more than I do.

I do understand that many people, especially those of means, like to dress up and see others around them dressed up. I just tend to avoid those people and those places, because they make my family uncomfortable.

Does this change my desire to go to these places? No, mostly because I‘m not interested in the extra cost and also because I know there are enough people who will be mad about this change looking down on my family for us to be comfortable. Maybe in a few years if people truly embrace the change.
 
I honestly could not care less what complete strangers at another table are wearing.

I’m there to enjoy dinner with my wife. My attention is on her, enjoying her company and the food vs. focusing on some random person’s attire.

So long as people adhere to Disney’s rules, they are under no obligation to dress (and shouldn’t even worry about dressing) to make someone else feel comfortable.
 
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The best way to show respect at a restaurant is by leaving a huge tip. Go ask 100 servers and see how many of them feel respected by huge tippers versus those who felt respected by what the customers were wearing...
I've never tipped the staff or host at a church, wedding, funeral, or social occasion. At a restaurant, we tip very, very well.
 
What are wrong with shorts and t-shirts? I see nothing wrong with that attire. I mean if you if you are having a wedding outside in the Florida heat what else would you be wearing but shorts and t-shirts. Let the elites wear their fancy clothes if it makes them feel better. Let the rest of us come as we are.
If I were to get married again, I would want my guests to come in whatever clothing they chose. I just want to have them there.
 
To whom or what does one need to show respect when eating at Palo or Remy? In my opinion, respect for anything is demonstrated by one's behavior, not one's attire.
Showing respect to the chefs and staff in the kitchen for preparing a multi-course meal that I expect to enjoy. Showing respect to the dining room maitre d and waiters for their professionalism, knowledge, and attention to every detail. And, finally, to the room itself with white table cloths, place settings, and fresh flowers surrounded by the beautiful decor. In many places, there are dress codes for entering a church or cathedral to show respect for the structure and what it represents thus setting guidelines on your behavior.
 
Showing respect to the chefs and staff in the kitchen for preparing a multi-course meal that I expect to enjoy. Showing respect to the dining room maitre d and waiters for their professionalism, knowledge, and attention to every detail. And, finally, to the room itself with white table cloths, place settings, and fresh flowers surrounded by the beautiful decor. In many places, there are dress codes for entering a church or cathedral to show respect for the structure and what it represents thus setting guidelines on your behavior.
This.
 
Showing respect to the chefs and staff in the kitchen for preparing a multi-course meal that I expect to enjoy. Showing respect to the dining room maitre d and waiters for their professionalism, knowledge, and attention to every detail. And, finally, to the room itself with white table cloths, place settings, and fresh flowers surrounded by the beautiful decor. In many places, there are dress codes for entering a church or cathedral to show respect for the structure and what it represents thus setting guidelines on your behavior.
One would hope you would show the same level respect to the people who work any where you go. Not sure why fancy places deserve a fancier level of respect.

Using this reasoning, does that mean that if one goes to a casual or fast food establishment and does not dress up, they must not respect the people that work there or the work that they are doing?
 
I believe the issue with dressing up in certain situations has unfortunately fallen by the wayside. There was a time when women, especially, enjoyed getting dressed up. After taking care of kids, cleaning house or working at an outside job it felt emotionally satisfying to dress nicely, put on some makeup, do your hair and go somewhere special. That scenario doesn’t exist much anymore. It’s now a “I’ll do what I want and dress how I
please “ society. There will be those who still like to dress according to the atmosphere of where they’re going and will continue to do so. Those who wish to wear jeans and every day shirts, go for it. But just because someone else is dressed up don’t be calling them ritzy or stuck up, it’s just their choice. And it doesn’t cost much to put on nice clothes. You can get stuff at Walmart that will look nice.
 
Those who wish to wear jeans and every day shirts, go for it. But just because someone else is dressed up don’t be calling them ritzy or stuck up, it’s just their choice. And it doesn’t cost much to put on nice clothes. You can get stuff at Walmart that will look nice.

Looking over the responses in this thread, it seems to be more of those preferring to dress up accusing those who don't of somehow ruining their experiences by daring to share the same locations as them. Those who are okay with more relaxed dress codes don't seem to care what anyone outside their party wears.

To be clear, I am not saying that people should go to places and not follow the listed dress codes. What I am saying is that I don't think that when someplace relaxes their dress code it somehow cheapens the experience. Which is the topic of this thread. No one prohibits anyone from dressing up beyond the minimum required by the dress code. So no one is prohibiting those who like to dress more formally at Remy or Palo from continuing to do so. What I don't understand is why those people are bothered when they have to share the space with others who are less dressed up.
 
For me it’s not the clothes themselves but how you put them together. Many times I think a blouse looks better with a nice pair of jeans than “dress” pants. I used to hate that about my office dress code. Why were my elastic waist easy to wrinkle linen pants from Old Navy appropriate, or the maternity cotton jogger pants from Amazon, but not my impeccably tailored pair of Lucky jeans? Makes no sense. As for jackets, my husband never wore them to Palo because he gets too hot. He looks fine with a button down shirt or a polo for brunch.
 
One would hope you would show the same level respect to the people who work any where you go. Not sure why fancy places deserve a fancier level of respect.

Using this reasoning, does that mean that if one goes to a casual or fast food establishment and does not dress up, they must not respect the people that work there or the work that they are doing?
The discussion is about the new dress code on DCL for adult-only dining.
 
As long as the food tastes good and someone isn't wearing something overly offensive, I don't really care what people wear around me while we all eat. I'm focused on the people at my table and enjoying their company vs. what they are wearing. To me, for the most part, dress codes feel dated and classist.
"Classist", ever hear of tradition...
 
I would think that following the dress code set by the restaurant (or wedding, or funeral, or...) is a sufficient level of respect. If the people that run Remy think that nice jeans and a collared shirt is OK for dinner, then that's fine with me. They clearly don't need to to wear a suit to feel "respected" at dinner.
 

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