Dress Code for YS...Is there one?

[Evans Family]

Does anyone know if there is a dress code for the Yachtsman Steakhouse? I'm beginning to plan packing and hate to pack dress clothes for just one meal.

Can you get away wearing shorts?

Thanks.

 

[budbeerlady]

It is business casual. I wore Khaki capri pants and a polo type shirt with sandals. Dh wore black pants and a polo type shirt. We fit in just fine. We didnt see any short but it was also december and in the low 70's that night.

 

[Uncleromulus]

"Dress shorts" are perfectly acceptable under the Signature restaurants (of which Yachtsman is one) business casual dress code.

 

[TinksMagic54]

We were there in July 2004 and DH wore dress shorts, a collar shirt. I also wore dress shorts and a nice shirt. DD's wore short sets and we were among the well-dressed for that time of year.

 

[Paco]

I was there last week. The manager at Artist point was standing at the entrance, and gave me a hard time because I didn't have a collared shirt. Since when??? He said:"Bussiness casual". Well, I'm not on "Bussiness", I'm on Vacation. This was my 25th trip to WDW, I eat in a lot of the expensive restaurants, and found I didn't change into the "nice" clothes that I usually pack, so I don't bother packing them anymore. After all it was 96 that day. He told me it went into effect on sunday 5/7/06, and most of the "signature restaurants" were doing so. He then tried to give me a xxl shirt, and told me to put it on. Of course it didn't fit and there was a ton of people watching. So now I'm embarrased and my hair is messed up. I asked the manager why they didn't send any info with all the stuff they mail to your home(dining reservations,etc...) before you leave, and are a thousand miles from home, was I supposed to buy 45 dollar collared shirts from the hotel gift shop??? He said O.K. go ahead. Yeah, great!!! All I wanted to do now is call the airline and go home. The hostess and the wait staff seemed pretty pissed off. When the waiter came to the table (one we knew and specifically asked for), he was saying how stupid the policy was as it's Disney, not a board meeting. Also that whenever new management comes in, it's always the same stupid things they try to do, until they realize they're losing bussiness.
The next day we went to the Yachtsman. We had a priority seating, the hostess said follow me, and I asked about my attire. She said fine. The waiter that we've known for years was telling us that he was looking to do something else after 25 years working for WDW. He blamed a mid-life crisis, but I can tell there was more to it than he was allowed to say.
I was wearing nice, nearly brand new shorts and tees. (Nike,Speedo,OP,etc...) But over the years, as they built convention center after convention center, all you see are suits and dirty looks. Just look at the boards in the hotel lobbies....Bayer, Hartford insurance, AT&T,etc....
I work hard all year to go on vacation. I don't need to be embarased by a manager looking to appease the corporate freeloaders that are there.(No offence to the corporate freeloaders, I've been one myself.)
If Disney wants a dress policy, then say so before hand. They have a website, travel guides, about a million books, and a live person on the other end of the phone when you make priority seatings.

 

[Captain Jenny]

Paco sorry about your bad experience. We were at AP Feb 06, when I made our ADR they told me it was buisness casual. My husband and son both had nice jeans, Polo shirts and nice shoes. My daughter and I had nice sweaters and jeans, no one said anything. I think they want to avoid the coming from the park look, but most people are coming from the park. We happened to be staying at the WL so we cleaned up and changed before dinner. Not a problem for us. We would do it again. The food was great !!!!!

 

[bicker]

I'm also sorry you were upset, Paco, but very glad to see that they're beginning to expect better compliance with the dress codes which they've been telling us about for the last year.

 

[Uncleromulus]

But therein lies the "problem"-not everyone IS told about it. At worst,CM's who take ADR's occasionally don't mention it. And when they do, they often don't give accurate information. And occasionally they'll give their own "spin" on things.
As far as I know there is still no mention of a dress code on the Disney Website, where it certainly should be if they really expect to enforce it.
And "selective" enforcement from restaurant to restaurant, manager to manager, is a poor way to do things.
Let's see if that "went into effect Sunday May 7" thing is real--or if the manager at Artist Point was just speaking for himself.

 

[BCV23]

Another problem now is that there is conflicting information.

Uncleromulus reported recently that the booklet handed out at checkin that includs lists of restaurants does say signature restaurants require business casual. Brown Derby is a signature restaurant. Hope I have that correct, Uncle.

But this week when I made an AR for Brown Derby for our next trip, she didn't mention a dress code for BD. So I did ask. According to Disney Dining there is no dress code for Brown Derby which makes sense to me but still.... I personally suspect it was an oversight in the booklet but how is a guest to know?

I will say that I think the CMs are now usually very good about warning about the business casual dress code. And I haven't had any "making it up as they go" for some time now.

Paco, who made your AR? Could he/she have forgotten to tell you? Or maybe you just were a walkin?

 

[Uncleromulus]

Bcv23: It's in the book all right--I have it right in front of me. And the dress code thing is mentioned as applying to "Signature" restaurants.
On the WDW website, Brown Derby also appears as a "signature" restaurant. But there the dress code isn't mentioned at all. I even did a search of the site, just in case the dress code thing might be somewhere other than in the Dining section. But no-it's nowhere on the site.
I suspected there might be some distinction between a "resort" signature restaurant and a "theme park" signature restaurant--but Bistro apparently has the business casual code and it--along with the Derby-is a signature.

Glad to hear the CM's mention business casual dress--the problem arises when the guest asks 'What's business casual"?? That's when the trouble usually starts.
So where does that leave us??

 

[bicker]

But therein lies the "problem"-not everyone IS told about it.

Let's hope Disney fixes that soon.

And "selective" enforcement from restaurant to restaurant, manager to manager, is a poor way to do things.

I think a lot of people will object to the idea of taking that much authority away from the on-site managers.

but Bistro apparently has the business casual code and it--along with the Derby-is a signature.

Uh could you check the booklet again? The last brochure online doesn't have Bistro de Paris as a signature restaurant, but rather seems to indicate that Bistro de Paris doesn't participate in the Dining Plan at all.

 

[Uncleromulus]

Bicker: It's right in front of me. Bistro and Brown Derby are Theme Park "signature " restaurants.
Go online at the WDW website--both are there too.
http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wd...nature+Dining&cuisine=&submit=submit&x=8&y=10

 

[MrToad]

As someone that has spent loads of money in nearly all of the disney table service restaurants I find this policy absolutely stinks.

Yes, I can completely understand that you probably do not want grown men in a nice restaurant wearing a tank-top.

However, turning someone way that is wearing a nice, clean collarless shirt and nice shorts is absolutely unacceptable. My family is there on vacation. If WDW wants to cater to the business people they should build more restaurants at their convention center resort. Sorry, but this really ticks me off.

What....Are they going to turn my kids away because they have a t-shirt and goofy hat on?

EDIT: In fact, I would like to complain strongly about this policy. We've spent thousands at WDW over the past several years on dining alone. Does anyone know of the proper mailing address for complaints? Thanks.

 

[BCV23]

Nice shorts are acceptable and specifically named as acceptable in the code...if you ask a Disney Dining CM to read it.

Uncleromulus, I agree that is after the question "What is business casual" that problems can arise. It's just in my experience that has really improved. I haven't had anyone making up things for several trips now. Of course, that is a very limited sample.

 

[bicker]

This is the link that indicates that Bistro de Paris does not participate on the Dining Plan.

2006 MYW Dining Plan

 

[Uncleromulus]

Participation in the DDP has no connection with whether or not a restaurant is a "signature" dining establishment. If they did participate, they'd be listed as a "signature", just as the Brown Derby is on your link.
Why Bistro isn't on the DDP?? Who knows?
But it's a "signature" restaurant in the "Handy Guide to All the Magic" and on the Official WDW website, where the restaurants themselves (not the DDP) are highlighted.

Mr Toad: It dosen't make me happy either. But until this incident that Paco relates, I've heard very little that the "code" has been enforced anywhere.

 

[OKW Lover]

Well, I'm certainly glad that somebody is taking the dress code thing seriously. IMHO, if you are going to have a dress code, you need to enforce it. I'm happy to "dress up" in a bit more dressy clothes for a nice dining experience. But I expect that everybody else should abide by the same guidelines. Yes, there are always those who feel they should be an exception to the rule.
Lets hope that Disney either enforces their dress code or does away with entirely.

 

[NMW]

I made an ADR for Oct at Flying Fish for dinner and was told about the business casual. I asked what that means. I was mainly interested in finding out if clog-type flip-flops and dressy flip-flops were allowed. The CM checked and said "yes, I'm sure any thing like that would be fine." When I asked about the clothing, she just said "anything nice."

I made a lunch ADR at Brown Derby and she never said anything about a dress code there, but it is a signature. Maybe it only applies to dinner at BD? Maybe it's harder to expect people to dress up for lunch if they are in the park on a hot day? Or maybe Brown Derby just does not have a dress code. Any body know for sure?

 

[iwaseeyore]

I guess my issue is with collared shirt. Does the policy say collared shirt or does it say business casual? I work in a business casual office and wear shirts without collars and no one has an issue with it. Just because a shirt doesn't have a collar doesn't mean it a t-shirt.

 

[bicker]

Why don't you post a picture of the shirt you're thinking of?