double dipping on fp is gone

[DizneyNutz]

So my undercover tourist hard plastic tickets won't work?

Yes they will, they are exactly what we used to get all of ours.

 

[Rags]

Yes they will, they are exactly what we used to get all of ours.

Thank you

 

[pampam]

Our last day of our trip was the 4th. We had magic bands and park tickets. Tickets were not linked to the band. We were able to use the band at Epcot and Magic Kingdom and could also pull hard tickets....so they were still working two days ago.

If your tickets were not linked to the band, how did you use the band at Epcot and MK?

 

[Racemom17]

If your tickets were not linked to the band, how did you use the band at Epcot and MK?

Not sure...Saturday was our first day at MK...had Magic Bands and we had orbitz vouchers that we traded in for the hard tickets....at MK they asked me to try the FP + machine, told him tickets were not linked...he said to try anyways and it worked....

The next morning I talked to the front desk cause the bands would not open the room door or allow charging, but the KTTW cards did...the reprogrammed them....and I asked hr about the FP+ and she agreed that I shouldn't have been able to pull the FP+ with no tickets linked...but even so...at Epcot both days it worked and at MK the second day it worked. We never tried it at AK.

 

[Planogirl]

It doesn't make sense for them to try to force every visitor to stay onsite. They simply don't have enough hotel rooms for all of the offsite visitors.

I could see them offering better prebooking or even more FP+ though.

 

[Redbudlover]

We were linked with MBs and had hard APs and were able to get FP- in the parks over Thanksgiving.

In the past you could NOT get an FP- with a ticket unless that specific ticket had been used to enter the park. So did you use your AP's to enter the park? Or were you able to get FPs with APs using the MB to enter the parks?

 

[FireDancer]

It doesn't make sense for them to try to force every visitor to stay onsite. They simply don't have enough hotel rooms for all of the offsite visitors.

I could see them offering better prebooking or even more FP+ though.

I think it is almost a certainty that FastPasses will be used as a perk for staying onsite, just like EMH is now. They don't need to move every guest onsite, they just need to move enough.

If there is a maximum FP+ inventory, which there has to be, and they only offer them to onsite guests some would be taken up by the guests that would have stayed onsite anyway, some would be be taken by the guests who decide to move onsite to take advantage of the perk, and then there would be all the FP+ left that the offsite guests that didn't more onsite would use.

Now those are available inventory that could be used to provide incentives to upgrades. Stay moderate and get 4 instead of 3. Stay deluxe and get 5. Stay concierge and get 3 Tier 1 and 3 additional, etc. They could also use them to provide an incentive to stay longer. After the 5th day of a 7+ day trip you get an extra FP+ per guest per day.

Even without making them exclusive to onsite they could do a form of what I described above. Offsite get the 3 tiered FP+, moderate get an extra Tier 1, deluxe or concierge get no tiering, they can get all headline FP+.

FP+ might be designed to slow down standby lines on purpose so they can be used as an incentive down the road. The ability to control guest access via FP+ is perfect for then using that ability to give incentives for guests who spend more money at the parks. Since they are linked to what you are buying via MBs they could even give guests who spend a certain amount on souvenirs FP+ as a reward.

 

[Planogirl]

I think that Disney takes a chance at driving away offsite visitors if they are completely left out of fastpass. It's fine to drive up occupancy but when over half of your guests stay offsite that is still a lot of money to be earned from dining and souvenirs. I believe that most return visitors are familiar with fastpass to some extent and to be told to wait in line and that is the only option would be a PR disaster.

I can only speak for myself but I would refuse to visit WDW if they become an exclusive resort of this type and we do stay onsite about half the time. I've never cared for all-inclusives and WDW would be way too much like one if that were to happen.

 

[FlipHipster]

Same day could also crater the wifi at the parks at opening - I can just imagine everyone on the buses in the morning screaming at the driver to speed up so they can get connectivity

WiFi+ is 2nd phase I think.

 

[Sophie's Mom]

We are here now and are able to get FP- on both our KTTW cards and our annual passholder cards. We are staying at Saratoga Springs and have FP+ on our Magic Bands. We did not use our passes for entry - we used our bands for entry in case anyone was curious!

 

[Angel Ariel]

Given the comments about FP+ being an onsite only perk, I feel it's pertinent to post this information again.

Hi, Todd. Guests staying at Walt Disney World Resort hotels, and Annual Passholders will receive a band, as well as those guests who purchase a photography package. Guests who stay at non-Disney hotels will receive a ticket with features of touch to enter the park, touch to redeem FastPass+ and touch to pay. These guests can participate in My Disney Experience and purchase a MagicBand if they wish.

This was stated by Tom Staggs in a response to comment 13 on this Disney Parks Blog post.

UPDATE – 2 p.m. Jan. 7, 2013 -Disney has released a few more details:
• Disney FastPass+ service is included with theme park admission.
• The MagicBand is initially available to select Walt Disney World Resort hotel guests and guests who purchase other specific products.
• Other guests will be able to use their standard ticket to access the benefits of MyMagic+, such as making FastPass+ selections on the My Disney Experience website and app.

Source

 

[jimandami]

In the past you could NOT get an FP- with a ticket unless that specific ticket had been used to enter the park. So did you use your AP's to enter the park? Or were you able to get FPs with APs using the MB to enter the parks?

You can definitely use MB to enter park and then use the hard AP for FP-.

 

[Vidia2]

Given the comments about FP+ being an onsite only perk, I feel it's pertinent to post this information again. This was stated by Tom Staggs in a response to comment 13 on this Disney Parks Blog post. Source

I think most people are saying that they believe that FP+ will be available to everyone the day of their park visit but unless they are staying on site they would not be able to book in advance so would basically get what's left over. On site guests would have a clear advantage. An exception might be AP holders who would have some advance FP+ booking ability, not sure how much.

Someone please correct me if I'm misstating this.

 

[FlipHipster]

Given the comments about FP+ being an onsite only perk, I feel it's pertinent to post this information again.



This was stated by Tom Staggs in a response to comment 13 on this Disney Parks Blog post.



Source

thanks for the link but I missed the part where he talked about the tiers (did not read all 200 comments). All Staggs is saying unless I missed it is that you get FP+ if you have a ticket. Everyone who has an active ticket can't possibly book FP+ for TT tomorrow, the ride just doesn't have the capacity. However, they can probably get one for Captain EO which is all he is really saying.

The FP for headliners will become priceless when parks are at peak capacity. They are already hard to get, which makes them valuable to someone...

chaaa ching

 

[Angel Ariel]

thanks for the link but I missed the part where he talked about the tiers (did not read all 200 comments). All Staggs is saying unless I missed it is that you get FP+ if you have a ticket. Everyone who has an active ticket can't possibly book FP+ for TT tomorrow, the ride just doesn't have the capacity. However, they can probably get one for Captain EO which is all he is really saying.

The FP for headliners will become priceless when parks are at peak capacity. They are already hard to get, which makes them valuable to someone...

chaaa ching

I didn't say he mentioned anything about tiers - he didn't (though it should be noted that the tests occuring when that was posted in Jan 2013 had been tiered up until that point).

There were a few in this thread making comments about how FP+ would be an onsite only perk (not that prebooking would be, but that the whole thing would be), and I just wanted to address that as Disney has clearly stated it won't be.

I agree with ArwenMarie (I think that's who it was anyway) who said that the onsite perk will be a +10 day window for prebooking, much like ADRs have already.

 

[Happy99]

Does anyone else think they are removing the KTTW cards from being used in the FP- machines because of the upcoming holiday weeks which are the most crowded time of year?

Maybe they plan on all KTTW cards not to have the magnetic stripe at all resorts in the next couple of weeks?

 

[Angel Ariel]

I think most people are saying that they believe that FP+ will be available to everyone the day of their park visit but unless they are staying on site they would not be able to book in advance so would basically get what's left over. On site guests would have a clear advantage. An exception might be AP holders who would have some advance FP+ booking ability, not sure how much.

Someone please correct me if I'm misstating this.

That isn't what every poster has said..that's why I posted what I did.

IMO, I think onsite guests will get a +10 day window, like ADRs. Disney's been selling FP+ - in the little marketing/articles they've done so far - as the ability to book your rides before your visit. That's what puts the + in FP+. It doesn't make sense to hype up the system in that way, and then say to a good majority of your guests that they have no access to that at all. Onsite will have more time to prebook, but offsite will eventually be able to prebook to some degree as well, IMO.

Any speculation as to who will be able to prebook is just that at this point - speculation (including mine ). No one knows at this point.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Does anyone else think they are removing the KTTW cards from being used in the FP- machines because of the upcoming holiday weeks which are the most crowded time of year?

Maybe they plan on all KTTW cards not to have the magnetic stripe at all resorts in the next couple of weeks?

That is the going theory, as it would then open up the remaining legacy FP slots for the offsite guests who currently have no access to FP+.

 

[AmyB2006]

Does anyone else think they are removing the KTTW cards from being used in the FP- machines because of the upcoming holiday weeks which are the most crowded time of year? Maybe they plan on all KTTW cards not to have the magnetic stripe at all resorts in the next couple of weeks?

I definitely think that's what they are doing. I don't know in what order but I definitely think they'll all be like that by Christmas week.

 

[clsteve]

I didn't say he mentioned anything about tiers - he didn't (though it should be noted that the tests occuring when that was posted in Jan 2013 had been tiered up until that point).

There were a few in this thread making comments about how FP+ would be an onsite only perk (not that prebooking would be, but that the whole thing would be), and I just wanted to address that as Disney has clearly stated it won't be.

I agree with ArwenMarie (I think that's who it was anyway) who said that the onsite perk will be a +10 day window for prebooking, much like ADRs have already.

Definitely makes sense to start that way.

His comments are interesting about off-site having the option to buy an MB and log into MDE. In order for off-site (not AP) to be able to reserve FP+'s, wouldn't there have to be a date commitment with cancellation fee associated with the ticket in order to manage the FP+ pool?