Don't Worry~Reflections after my cruise

professorandmom

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Although I learned that everyone’s version of reality is different (I thought the room size was great, for example), here are my thoughts after a long awaited 4 day Wonder (myself, DD13 and DDTSs 9)

Don't worry about:
1. crowds - I had heard that the ship was designed to operate at full capacity but I really thought that meant something like a rainy day at Magic Kingdom, a level below crowded but still full. Well, perhaps I was blessed but I was shocked at the emptiness - adult clubs were half full, NO line at Beach Blanket Buffet at 12 noon - things like that....the ONLY line we waited in - to get onto the elevators as everyone returned from Castaway Cay - we took off our flip flops and walked on the carpeted stairs. Even the shows weren’t bad (see my “why pick late seating” post).

2. Noise in the cabins – again, I was blessed, but the silence was wonderful

3. The crazy people – the people who shoved a stroller into a full elevator, running over toes and screaming at people (and their kids)….I refused to let rude people bother me – I was polite and reminded myself of the beautiful weather etc!

4. Letting your kids have some freedom – we used the “post-it on the mirror” technique and it was wonderful. All I had to do was threaten to eliminate sign out privileges in the club and I always knew where the kids were.

5. Cleanliness in the cabins (and everywhere) – the use of bleach and toothbrushes in the corners says it all – even my mother would have been hardpressed to find something to complain about.

6. Don’t worry about the side of the ship you pick (or are assigned). We were port and saw the sand/rock piles at Castaway Cay but were able to wave to the workers as we left (one yelled “thanks for coming” – I thought that was the funniest thing – they certainly didn’t need to thank me)

Do:
1. Pay attention to some of the major tips from the boards. For example: I was worried we would not find a “good” spot at Castaway Cay since we stayed on the ship until after 9:30….but I was careful to encourage the kids towards the further end of the beach (near the wooden structure in the water) as I had learned and found many, many chairs. People who walked in search of chairs at 12 weren’t so lucky.

2. Teach your kids what they should do when presented a charge slip – the lines are:
an area for the tip and the total (they should know that they are already giving 15% tip but there is an extra line on all the slips I saw)
room #__________
last name _________
signature ___________
can’t tell you how many children struggled to get their smoothie because they didn’t understand when to print and how to sign their name quickly (the child in front of me was very confused when his name wouldn’t fit in the space).

3. If you decide to tip the counselors in the club or lab, do it before the end of the last night. After second seating, the three counselors my son wanted to thank had already finished their shift. I still left the phone cards in envelopes but my son was disappointed.

4. Common grounds is tough for the 13 year olds and most of the ones I talked to agreed. The club is ruled by the older kids. However, it is a great way for 13 year olds to meet and hang out together somewhere else.

5. Bring a sweater for the shows. Even I, who never needs one, was freezing WITH my sweater. It is COLD in there (although I thought everywhere else was fine).
 
Thanks for the info. We're scheduled for our 3rd Disney cruise. Our DD will barely be 13 when we sail on 5/22/04. Any tips for the 13 year old in the teen club?

I've been concerned because she loved the Lab so much and she hasn't "grown up" as fast of others her age.
 
Cleanliness in the cabins (and everywhere) – the use of bleach and toothbrushes in the corners says it all – even my mother would have been hardpressed to find something to complain about.

On our first cruise, we returned to our room in the middle of the afternoon one day and found our cabin steward on his knees scrubbing behind the toilet! I offered to take him home with me, but he didn't want to live here in New Jersey where it gets cold in the winter (at least that's what he said) LOL!

I would appreciate some info for 13 year olds, too. My 13 year old nephew will be part of our "cruise group". He's physically very large, but emotionally he's still very much a kid (he has Asperger's Syndrome). He's pretty independent so I don't think he'll be bored, but it would be nice for him to be able to find someone to "hang out" with while we're cruising!

Beth
 
What a nice post ... refreshing actually.

I always find it's best to go with an open mind and DON'T SWEAT WHAT'S OUT OF YOUR CONTROL! You'll find that you have a better time that way.

Nice to see that DCL is still the sparkling place I remember from last year. So glad your family made some wonderful memories.

Have a Very Mickey Day!
 

Great post... I see you didn't mention the joy of meeting other DIS people..:p

Professorandmom and I hooked up via these boards, our DS's bonded and had great fun together and as I recall her DD met someone on these boards as well as making some friends in CG. My 15 yo DS had a blast in CG, I think it is more suited to that age group. Us mom's had a wonderful night in Palo's and without having met on the boards I don't think I would have ventured there alone. To the 13 yo issue I would encourage you to reach out on the boards and see if you can find someone to correspond with. Sometimes it works great. We had a DIS meet planned and only 3 of the 6 or 7 families that were on the boards showed up :( but it was still fun to meet. Looking on these boards for someone on your cruise that might have kids the same age is still worth trying. Even if they don't bond, it gives them someone they know. Encourage them to at least visit CG, there are sure to be others their age there, and when the older kids take over they can make plans to do other things on board. It was nice for us to already have a friend on board. We are looking forward to staying friends (unless she writes something bad in a post about her horrible table mates;) )
 
Originally posted by professorandmom
Although I learned that everyone’s version of reality is different (I thought the room size was great, for example), here are my thoughts after a long awaited 4 day Wonder (myself, DD13 and DDTSs 9)

Wonderful advice! Thanks for sharing and WELCOME HOME!

Planning another cruise yet?
 
CRSNDSNY,
Of course I knew I would NEED another cruise in my future in order to get off the boat - booked a "fake" cruise to be in line for the 2005 dates.

Let me take this moment to say how much I appreciate all the time people spent answering my questions and filling my head with ideas that saved me tons of money and made the trip so much better. Funny story: as I was heading toward my room for the first time, a nearby room door was open allowing me to hear a heated and concerned discussion. A group of adults were worried about where everyone would sleep - they didn't know about the bed in the ceiling and were VERY concerned that they had too small a room. I felt so bad for them although it is an easy misunderstanding if one has done no research. One other funny story - the cruise sales agent has no access to the Internet and REALLY wanted to know what was said on the boards. She asked me to explain what the boards were like....I asked if she knew Barb - oh, yes, she said (they had been on the Wonder the week prior). Well, I explained, I know her too - even though we have never met. I described that her advice and the advice of many others helps us get to know each other so well.

There is no way to express the joy of meeting kjcolv and and other DIS people - so wonderful to share the cruise with others!!
 
Thanks for the fabulous post. I am definetely going to take your advice when we cruise in October. I just have one question. What did you mean by making a fake reservation?
 
I wanted a 2005 date and they are not available. So I intended to book any old date and then change it in order to get the onboard booking credit. Disney already figured out that people might do that so they have set up a week that has no Wonder cruise in Dec 2004 and "booked" my family on that "one." Then I need to change it when the 2005 dates come out. It was all the cruise sales agents idea.
Barbara
 
Originally posted by professorandmom
CRSNDSNY,
Of course I knew I would NEED another cruise in my future in order to get off the boat - booked a "fake" cruise to be in line for the 2005 dates.


LOL...whenever anyone asks 'what to not leave home without when going on your Disney Cruise" I ALWAYS respond with A DEPOSIT TO REBOOK YOUR NEXT CRUISE! The onboard credit is such a wonderful bonus and you can always switch your date later.

So glad to hear you rebooked! Will it be another 4-day or will you try a 7-day next?
 
Originally posted by BethC1952
On our first cruise, we returned to our room in the middle of the afternoon one day and found our cabin steward on his knees scrubbing behind the toilet! I offered to take him home with me, but he didn't want to live here in New Jersey where it gets cold in the winter (at least that's what he said) LOL!

Oh yeah! My Mom's a housekeeper (unfortunately, not a 'mouse'keeper) and I remember thinking of how impressed she'd be! Although we tipped a bit more than suggested for everyone, we ended up tipping our stateroom steward MORE than our dining room servers! Being a clean 'freak' I really appreciated the attention to detail in our stateroom.
 
I don't know if DCL would allow this, but you might want to consider trying to place the younger 13 yo's in the 11-12 program in the Oceaneers Lab. Our child has alway enjoyed playing with yonger kids and is intimadated by the older ones. He would have had a more enjoyable time with the younger kids. He actually hooked up with a 12yo part way through the cruise and they had fun together when the 12yo was not in the lab.

Here is my gripe to DCL: most 13-14 yo's do not / should not be in the same "program" with the 15-17's. The maturity levels are way different. The programming didn't start until 2pm usually and went until 2am. I'm sorry, 13/14's still need to get a good nights sleep and staying out past midnight is pushing it for most of them. That leaves the mornings as "boring" since there is nothing to do. 95% of the activites did not interest our child - teen dances and music trivia games were not his thing.

I know several 13/14 yo's who would flourish in this environment, but I know many more that would not. This is an area in the childrens programming where DCL should consider some "overlapping" programming -- continue with the 13-17 common grounds program and add a 13/14 program for the kids whose parents know that their kids will not fit in with the older HS crowd.
 
I enjoyed your post. I always feel people expect too much instead of just having a good time.
 
jrabbit

You make a very valid point. I have a 12 yo DS with learning disabilities, he is very sweet and does great with the younger kids.He loved the lab and would have stayed in there 24 hours a day! I told my 15 yo DS (who is dying to go on another cruise) that this may be our last Disiney Cruise because of the strict program guidelines. He agreed that his brother would never fit in with the older kids activities. I would be curious if they have allowed any older kids to stay in the lab, I heard they would not but it would be a good question.

Another thought is since they are supposed to be redoing common grounds perhaps they could consider redoing the programming as well. Pattern it more after the Club/Lab breakdown so that there is more of a division between the 13 -14 and 15 - 18. There is a huge difference!
 

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