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It appears the point of your thread was to come on the board and insult other people here and let them know how you thought they should construct their park visits. Why bother doing that? Why worry about other people and how they enjoy their visits and come here to tell them they are doing it wrong and throw insults in the process?
My question was to see if others on the board thought is was appropriate for an adult to say I am not giving such and such up for a kid or anyone for that matter. I felt it was selfish. My original post was not to insult or tell anyone how to construct a park visit. I never said anyone was doing anything wrong if you go back and read my post. I was thinking that most people would put a child or someone else above themselves, but it appears that I was wrong. After about the tenth post of someone telling me about a Granny on a Scooter or How an adult is not Welcome (WHICH I NEVER SAID)or how a terminal cancer patient can't celebrate in WDW which AGAIN I NEVER said caused me to get an attitude. I NEVER said that anyone cant have a magical experience I never said that an adult was not entitled to pixie dust. What I did say was that children should receive extra pixie dust and attention because that is what I believe WALT himself would have done. Again I am not a selfish person and I will put others before myself, but some responses on here leads me to believe that the comment I felt was selfish or insensative is actually how alot of people feel.
 
I think everyone can enjoy the parks but I believe they were created and designed for children. If we can just take a step back and a deep breath everyone would have a more relaxing vacation.:daisy:

No....you take a deep breath, plan your trip around your kids and let the rest of us plan our trips the way WE enjoy. I like kids. Some of my favorite people are children....but the day that I decide that they shoudl get preference simply because of their age is the day you can accuse me of drinking koolaid....which incidentally I would be offended by. That reference is really not a nice one. That refers to a horrific tragedy and for the many of us who were old enough to follow it in the news, well it is offensive.

Families come in all shapes, sizes, and design, with age groups all over the map. While I am nice to children, and I generally will shoo little ones in font for a better view, I no more believe they are more entitled to special things than I think I am. If your childen's view, experience etc it important to you, plan for it, pay for it or hope for the best. Just do not expect the rest of us to move aside because you brought kids.

Truthfully, if a front row seat for my child is important to me I need to show up early enough to claim the spot.

Exactly. I am inclined to make room, but it never faills....I get "that" parent who is not satisfied to wait for an invitation. In December we were armed with a group of families to see Illuminations. A little before the start a parent who thought his childen should have a better view, but who had not thought that important enough to plan fo it was heard conspiring with his group....how to push up through all of us who had been camped out for quite some time. Sorry fella.....

I feel that children 10 and under should be treated with Extra Pixie Dust while in the World. After they hit the teens they can pretty much fend for themselves. If they want a parade spot or a character meal they can make it happen. DO I think that young children should have extra attention over an adult at Disney Yes I do. Do I think that Disney is only for kids NO I don't.

My DGD is 14 and I think that since she hangs our Moon, raises our Sun and puts the Stars in our eyes, SHE should get special Pixie Dust. LOL! I actually do not. SHe gets what she gets from us. Anything else is extra and since she did not earn it and we did not pay for it it is not hers just because we find her special. I think that the attitude that any individual is more entitled to magic based on age is ludicrous and petty self absorbed.

Yes I believe that children should be the FOCAL POINT. I have already corrected my original post. I believe Disney to be for families any shape and size. Any mother will sacrifice for her children. Maybe that is where my thought process is coming from. Willing to sacrifice for the younger kids. Yes an 8 yo little girl dressed up in a Princess costume should be flooded with pixie dust. A 40 yo woman in a tutu not so much.
Again a 40 yo woman in a tutu in WDW is GREAT just don't EXPECT to be treated like a princess. I would think the majority of adults not drinking the WDW koolaid would realize that is not entitlement:crazy2:

We ALL deserve to be treated like the Princesses and Princes that we are. If you want to sacrifice go for it, just remember that we all pay the same price to get in, we all save for our special vacation, and we all love a little special Pixie Dust. No one is anyone else's FOCAL point, no should we expect that others feel that our kids deserve to take from someone else's experience.

Thank you for your support..even though I changed the title my feelings are the same. Little ones should be a priority at Disney. I think it's more for them than for me. I never said adults should not be at Disney or able to enjoy the park.I have always felt this way about the issue I will say again my children are not rude they do not cut in the line and they do not expect something from everyone. They have been taught to be polite and respect others. My hubby was taught to hold a door for a female and would give up his seat for someone and did a couple of times on a crowded bus.I guess what I have learned from this thread is the same issue that's wrong with a lot of theworld these days. It's all about me.

Oh it was clear that the title change did not change your attitude. I have had the pleasure of being in spaces occupied by special little snowflakes whose wants are so much more important than the wants of the people surrounding them. I find it nauseating.

One of my favorite trips was a adults only trip. I was meeting a group of king time Dis friends, and since my DH was recovering from blood clots that had almost taken his life. He wanted me to go because "no one needs to get away as much as you!" And so I would have a companion he paid for my neighbor to join me. She had been to WDW twice, and both occasion were not fun and had never included her wants. Anyway, my friends and I had a blast taking her around the World, but the MK was the best! Dinner in CRT with plenty of Princess time ( I guess we stole that from some kid) and then a great spot for Wishes. Well, my othe fiend and I had already seen WIshes many times, but Kim had not ever seen it. We were in the process of shifting between the two of us to give her the best view, when she asked what we were doing. People around us heard us telling her that we were trying to fix her view (she did nto knwo about Tink) and like Magic, they all sort of moved so she had an unobstructed view. This was the first time my hearing impaired friend ever heard the music! But I guess that she did not meet the age requirement, so she should have moved for kids. Who incidentally were just as pulled into her enthusiasm as the est of the group was all week. It was contagious!
 
Wow... all adults don't belong? I don't even like kool-aid. Have fun at Universal, there are plenty of adult families that enjoy it too!
The ALL Adults don't belong comment was twisted and added by the previous posters if you read up. I NEVER SAID THAT.
 
My question was to see if others on the board thought is was appropriate for an adult to say I am not giving such and such up for a kid or anyone for that matter. I felt it was selfish. My original post was not to insult or tell anyone how to construct a park visit. I never said anyone was doing anything wrong if you go back and read my post. I was thinking that most people would put a child or someone else above themselves, but it appears that I was wrong. After about the tenth post of someone telling me about a Granny on a Scooter or How an adult is not Welcome (WHICH I NEVER SAID)or how a terminal cancer patient can't celebrate in WDW which AGAIN I NEVER said caused me to get an attitude. I NEVER said that anyone cant have a magical experience I never said that an adult was not entitled to pixie dust. What I did say was that children should receive extra pixie dust and attention because that is what I believe WALT himself would have done. Again I am not a selfish person and I will put others before myself, but some responses on here leads me to believe that the comment I felt was selfish or insensative is actually how alot of people feel.

But you have passed judgement on anyone whose thought process is not in lock step with your own, and then reinforce how your view is correct by pulling WALT in to cement the point. You keep saying "a child" but what you mean is "your child". Most of us plan for our own children's enjoyment, pay for their experiences, and may appreciate it if someone gives them a little better time, we do not expect that to happen. Your children do not trump my DGD, not in my world. My DGD is never placed above any one else either. She is and has always been our responsibility. If we wanted a view, even as a Peanut, she was expected to wait with us and if we wanted her singled out, we did it. Now she got plenty of Pixie Dust but she keeps talking about ay Pixie Dust I have gotten. It seems that seeing others getting magic is fun too!
 

Just an fyi for the OP. You have edited your original post several times but since it was quoted, the original post will still be visible. I didn't know if you were aware of that.

I hope you enjoy your visit to Universal. I need to try and get there myself.
I thought when I edited and updated it would change I wasn't aware it did not note the revisions. Thank You
 
My question was to see if others on the board thought is was appropriate for an adult to say I am not giving such and such up for a kid or anyone for that matter. I felt it was selfish. My original post was not to insult or tell anyone how to construct a park visit. I never said anyone was doing anything wrong if you go back and read my post. I was thinking that most people would put a child or someone else above themselves, but it appears that I was wrong. After about the tenth post of someone telling me about a Granny on a Scooter or How an adult is not Welcome (WHICH I NEVER SAID)or how a terminal cancer patient can't celebrate in WDW which AGAIN I NEVER said caused me to get an attitude. I NEVER said that anyone cant have a magical experience I never said that an adult was not entitled to pixie dust. What I did say was that children should receive extra pixie dust and attention because that is what I believe WALT himself would have done. Again I am not a selfish person and I will put others before myself, but some responses on here leads me to believe that the comment I felt was selfish or insensative is actually how alot of people feel.
Actually what you said is that a 9 year old in a princess dress should be flooded with pixie dust. Kind of like your daughter, right? When she celebrated her birthday at Disney?

Whereas a 40 year old, "not so much."
 
My question was to see if others on the board thought is was appropriate for an adult to say I am not giving such and such up for a kid or anyone for that matter. I felt it was selfish. My original post was not to insult or tell anyone how to construct a park visit. I never said anyone was doing anything wrong if you go back and read my post. I was thinking that most people would put a child or someone else above themselves, but it appears that I was wrong. After about the tenth post of someone switching up my words or adding stuff like telling me How an adult is not Welcome (WHICH I NEVER SAID)or how a terminal cancer patient can't celebrate in WDW which AGAIN I NEVER said caused me to get an attitude. I NEVER said that anyone cant have a magical experience I never said that an adult was not entitled to pixie dust. What I did say was that children should receive extra pixie dust and attention because that is what I believe WALT himself would have done. Again I am not a selfish person and I will put others before myself, but some responses on here leads me to believe that the comment I felt was selfish or insensative is actually how alot of people feel. I now realize this and I will move on to more important topics.
 
My question was to see if others on the board thought is was appropriate for an adult to say I am not giving such and such up for a kid or anyone for that matter. I felt it was selfish.
You're right, there are selfish people at WDW. There are also selfish people at Universal, Six Flags, etc. Just choose to ignore it, and you will have a MUCH better time when you go back. Focus on the glass as half full and it will be an awesome trip! There's a silver lining to every cloud. Anytime something negative at WDW happens, find that silver lining. I'm telling you, Disney is at the top of all theme parks Ive been to. No other theme park can touch them in terms of service, cleanliness, and fun.
 
Here is a question, if you are still around.

If, when you are there, you see an adult or a couple receiving "pixie dust" because of some birthday or anniversary and your child is not (even though it is a special day for them), how would you feel?

Would you happy to see someone receiving something special? Or would you wonder why they were giving it to an adult, rather than a child?
 
After reading this entire post it seems crystalsmom 1021 feels "children should be the focal point", and that its selfish for an adult to say "I'm not giving up such and such for a kid" since "it is more magical when any person makes a sacrifice and puts someone else above themselves" and they should "step back and enjoy the children as they experience the most magical place on earth" since "children under 10 should be treated with extra pixie dust" and "more attention should be paid to those younger children."

She goes on to say that "the world is not all about you or me or the dog". Ironically she fails to realize that while her children are the most important thing in the world to her, they are not what the world is about for everyone else. Everyone feels the magic in their own way. I have staked out my parade spot an hour early and then asked a child if they wanted to stand in front of me, but there have been times when I didn't. It's my decision. I paid the same amount as you to get into the park and I will decide what my priorities are. I hope you can understand that while I have nothing against you or your children and I hope you have a great trip, making that happen isn't my top priority.
 
I might get flamed but please flame on. I was reading a post the other day that disturbed me. A comment was made that why should this Diser allow children to have a spot up front during a parade just because they are kids. I would gladly give up a position for a young prince or princess to have a better view. One person was complaining because they didn't get recognized on there SPECIAL Birthday maybe it was 40. My daughter went on her 9th Birthday and she received all the bells and whistles because she was turning 9. We are a family of 5 with 3 children in the group. Honestly if it were not for our children we wouldn't be traveling to WDW. Maybe I am the exception. Walt Disney created Disney so that children could enjoy and explore the Magic. I saw a dad cuss out a cast member at MK because a Character Meet and Great line was closed and his kid couldn't see Aladin on that go around. I have seen people FREAK out because they couldn't get that ADR that they had to have. I think everyone should take a deep breath and remember that the Magic becomes Unmagical when you go thinking that you are owed something. Step back and enjoy the children as they explore the most Magical Place on Earth. Rant over
Agree with people needing to calm down at WDW. We could all use that advice at times.

Disagree with the concept of WDW being mainly/only for kids. Walt Disney actually was inspired to create Disney parks by his experience of having to sit on the sidelines at amusement parks he took his young daughters to. He wanted the entire family to get to enjoy the experience together.

If a 40 year-old wants a birthday button, that's every bit as valid as a 9 year-old wanting one. The 40 year-old likely worked to earn the money for the trip, and wants to enjoy a bit of magic within the context of a life of hard work. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Some (not most) children are very spoiled and need discipline more than they need pixie dust, frankly. You can't judge a person's "worthiness" of pixie dust or Disney magic based on their age. Not at all.

I am a mom, teacher and Sunday school teacher, btw. I have a great love for kids, but don't think they should be raised to believe the world revolves only around them.
 
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You're right, there are selfish people at WDW. There are also selfish people at Universal, Six Flags, etc. Just choose to ignore it, and you will have a MUCH better time when you go back. Focus on the glass as half full and it will be an awesome trip! There's a silver lining to every cloud. Anytime something negative at WDW happens, find that silver lining. I'm telling you, Disney is at the top of all theme parks Ive been to. No other theme park can touch them in terms of service, cleanliness, and fun.

Thank you for your kindness I will try and keep that positive attitude in the World
 
Here is a question, if you are still around.

If, when you are there, you see an adult or a couple receiving "pixie dust" because of some birthday or anniversary and your child is not (even though it is a special day for them), how would you feel?

Would you happy to see someone receiving something special? Or would you wonder why they were giving it to an adult, rather than a child?

Honestly hand on the bible to answer you question I saw alot of people receive special pixie dust and that was a great experience for them and enjoyable for myself as well. I would be happy for them. To see them light up with excitement I guess that's where this went kinda off kilter. My daughter received extra pixie dust throughout her week long visit but at times also many other children held the limelight. That was just fine with me That is what made me feel good whenever a child any ones child would light up from the experience. It just makes the world a better place.
 
After reading this entire post it seems crystalsmom 1021 feels "children should be the focal point", and that its selfish for an adult to say "I'm not giving up such and such for a kid" since "it is more magical when any person makes a sacrifice and puts someone else above themselves" and they should "step back and enjoy the children as they experience the most magical place on earth" since "children under 10 should be treated with extra pixie dust" and "more attention should be paid to those younger children."

She goes on to say that "the world is not all about you or me or the dog". Ironically she fails to realize that while her children are the most important thing in the world to her, they are not what the world is about for everyone else. Everyone feels the magic in their own way. I have staked out my parade spot an hour early and then asked a child if they wanted to stand in front of me, but there have been times when I didn't. It's my decision. I paid the same amount as you to get into the park and I will decide what my priorities are. I hope you can understand that while I have nothing against you or your children and I hope you have a great trip, making that happen isn't my top priority.

I understand. Thank You
 
Honestly hand on the bible to answer you question I saw alot of people receive special pixie dust and that was a great experience for them and enjoyable for myself as well. I would be happy for them. To see them light up with excitement I guess that's where this went kinda off kilter. My daughter received extra pixie dust throughout her week long visit but at times also many other children held the limelight. That was just fine with me That is what made me feel good whenever a child any ones child would light up from the experience. It just makes the world a better place.
I think it is still a little off kilter.

Because you keep saying a child or other children.
 
I never said that an adult was not entitled to pixie dust. What I did say was that children should receive extra pixie dust and attention because that is what I believe WALT himself would have done.
Hmm, if we're comparing amounts of pixie dust, how much is appropriate for what age? After some calculations these are my figures: child age 0-9: 1 tablespoon per day, child age 10-12: 1 tablespoon plus a pinch (they did pay more for their ticket), age 13 and beyond: 1 tisp, they can fend for themselves pixiedust:
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I think it is still a little off kilter.

Because you keep saying a child or other children.

I saw alot of people (represents young old rich poor men or women) receive special pixie dust and that was a great experience for them and enjoyable for myself as well.I would be happy for them. To see them light up with excitement
Other children held the limelight (this post was never just about my kids but I felt some thought it was)
It made me feel good whenever a child any ones child ( again not jut focused on my own )would light up from the experience. It just makes the world a better place.
This is saying I enjoyed it for all.
 
I think it is still a little off kilter.

Because you keep saying a child or other children.

Honestly she cannot change her mindset even though she seems to want to. Her head says "people" are entitled to receive special attention, but her heart says "people are children."

The truth is that there is enough Pixie Dust to go around. No one is more deserving than any other, child or not. AS others have said upthread, we all make decisions in regards to our priorities, and I refuse to be guilted into making someone else my priority. I may choose to, but that is my decision.

Where do we stop? We have age groups that someone would grant special provisions to. How about size? If you are tiny you get a front and center spot, and if you are tall, as is my DH, you must always step aside, no matter that you camped out on Main Street for over an hour to see the parade? He gets this all of the time, and most times he did just that. But sometimes he chose to stand with me or with our DGD, who deserved to enjoy the parade holding her Pa's hand.

Should we all applaud when after we stake out our space for Wishes, have a great view because we chose to stand there rather than going for an ice cream, ten people in front of us perch their kids on their shoulders> no view for me because those childen are under ten?

Weall get to decide how we vacation, and the bottom line is that if we choose to vacation in Disney we get to decide how we manage our time and how that impacts those people who we care about. We cannot impose those views on anyone else to be sure the magic is in place for our kids. As parents, if you want that great unobstructed view for your child, march your keister over there early enough to make that happen. You want a seat that is awesom for Fantasmic, do what everyone else does, Either camp out early in line, or serve a dining package that gets you in place....and then still get youself over in time to sit. You want to meet characters? Stand in line or book a meal. You want to be sure your child gets special birthday cupcakes? Buy them. Same with balloons or pins. You want to be sure someone gives one to your child, let that person be you. Whatever is your priority you make it happen. Do nto expect me to change what I did for my family becuase you did not plan well enough ahead to make it happen. I did and still do.
 
I think that the idea of Disney World being more special to kids than adults is an interesting one. On the surface it seems harmless, but in the long term maybe not such a great idea. Treating one group of people as more special than another group of people is wrong.

Also, some children seem to absorb the idea that they are special, everyone treats them as special and thus grow into adults that believe that they are special, deserving of special treatment. This can lead to a generation of entitled children who grow into entitled adults. Rules, what rules?, I am special.

Over the years, I have observed some shocking behavior from children at Disney that would not have been socially acceptable a couple of generations ago, but now barely registers a glance from others. Or the parents just shrug as if they have no control over the situation. The children seem to be driving the bus and children are very bad bus drivers. Children need to learn to wait their turn, be polite, be respectful and have empathy for others. All the basic rules of a civilized society that most of us learned in kindergarten.

Why should children get pushed to the front of people who have waited hours to see the parade? Why should children receive more pixie dust than grown ups? Why shouldn't adults feel free to stand in line with children to meet characters? Why should more attention be paid to one group of guests ("children under 10") over another group of guests? Why shouldn't children be treated like other guests in the park?

How about the adults bring the children to wait for a good spot before the parade - learn how to wait for things that you want. It's good for children to learn how to wait their turn in line with other guests to meet characters. Waiting in line for a ride can help build anticipation and excitement for the ride. Plus they are going to spend a lot of their adult lives waiting - waiting at the Dr. Office, waiting at the DMV, waiting to check out at the store. Learning how to wait your turn is an important life skill.

If you so choose to, you can spend your vacation at WDW allowing children in front of you at parades and offering them extra pixie dust if that's your desire. You find your Happy Place at Disney and do what makes your vacation special to you. But I think it's wrong to expect everyone else to share your vision.

And yes, before anyone asks I have children, grown children and grandchildren. I have taken kids of all different ages to the House of Mouse. Maybe it's just me, I don't know. I am just tired of special snowflakes who grow into entitled adults. Like the story of those college interns that objected to the dress code at the place they were working, so they got together to write a formal letter of complaint demanding the dress code be more relaxed, then were so surprised when they were all FIRED. In real life, not everyone gets a trophy, you have to wait your turn, you don't always get what you want and yes, sometimes life isn't fair.
 
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And here is the problem.

Disney is for everyone. Every person that walks through that turnstile is a priority at Disney. It doesn't matter your age. You can be a little girl all dressed up in a princess gown or an old man that cries the first time he sees the castle. It is Magic for everyone.

You are correct in saying that it is the ones that seem to think it should be all about them that cause the problems. And I am sorry to say, you sound like you are part of the problem since you seem to think it should be all about your kids. They should get front row for parades. They shouldn't have to wait behind a 40 year old woman in a tutu to see a princess. They should have a seat on the crowded bus.

Maybe it is time for you to take a long look at yourself, rather than pointing out the possible flaws in others.

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