Does your job pay 100% for your health insurance?

The job market in Austin is so competitive, most companies offer 100% paid health insurance. My son just got his first post-college job and his is covered 100%. Mine and my husband have ours covered at 100% for him and 75% for me.
 
I'm sure we have employees with large families -but don't be so naive to think people who interview for jobs aren't ruled in or out based on their compensation requirements. Healthcare is part of a benefits package that could be (within the constraints of law) pulled away at an employers discretion. Many employers don't have to offer healthcare, and no employers have to offer a "specific" package. Many only offer to cover the employed individual -no family. I'm not sure where you're going with this. I work for a really great Company. Where I wouldn't want to work, is for a Company that would hire a new employee at the expense of existing employees. All businesses/departments work within the framework of a budget to some degree -if one thing goes up, another goes down. I'm sure you're looking at it from your work experiences -we're all different. The set up I work in ..offers GREAT benefit for achievements over and above a certain criteria. My job was effectively to help a team be financially successful by managing all aspects of the business. I'm not going to jeopardize that by bringing in a new person unless I feel it will help, not hurt, my employees. And that's what I would always do.
While I understand that your insights aren't publicly displayed to applicants and I do appreciate the perspective I am simply adding my own thoughts, I understand it's an entire compensation package and the packages I've enjoyed over the last say 10 years have been quite valuable, the reason is because my employers are attempting to be competitive in all aspects of the package.

The experience you shared comes off as the company flirting with ethical and legal issues and that's before we consider what those close tabs on benefits could lead to (would that affect future raises/opertunities? What about furure additional childern how many is too many?..) right or wrong I'm just pointing out how it looks and how that would make the company less attractive if the info got out there.
 
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My husband's job pays 95% of premiums and we have really low deductibles and often no copay. It's a great deal, except super premium plans are expensive, and COBRA would be outrageous if we ever needed it.
 
When I priced out buying on the marketplace, just out of curiosity, I came up with $2400 for a family of four. I guess it depends on the type of insurance and deductible.

The $1300 was almost the cheapest plan we could get. The only was to get it lower would be to put our 2 youngest children on a “catastrophic” plan—only available to those under a certain age (25 I think) or those with certain hardships. To do that they would each have a separate policy with separate deductibles. Although the monthly premium would be a bit cheaper, it exposes us to potential higher out of pocket.

We could pay several thousand a month more depending on the plan, but we tend not to have a lot of medical bills so this works for now.

It also depends on your location. I am in Pennsylvania and the cost of living is fairly low here.
 

I just have to say again this sounds like a company or team I wouldn't want to work for, if the company doesn't want to pay for a big family they just need to have that written into the benefits, employee + spouse covered at x percent, kids 1-3 @ x kid 4+ at employee expense etc..

My company now doesn't care and even covers ivf/other fertility treatments or adoption expense support..happy employees tend to perform well..and we all share equity in the business.
State employee benefits here do specify per child cost. 1 kid is x amt, 2 is xx and so on. I think after 4 kids it doesn't cost more. Our insurance used to cover fertility treatments and such, but about 13 years ago, as costs have gone up and other things have been added, they have gotten rid of many things in what they say " is trying to keep employee premiums as low as possible". But in reality, it's gone up 2-4% every year, which coincidentally the same amt as any raise we might get. The last 2 years is the 1st time in as long as I can remember that the cost hasn't gone up, but they raised the deductibles instead.
 
My job was effectively to help a team be financially successful by managing all aspects of the business. I'm not going to jeopardize that by bringing in a new person unless I feel it will help, not hurt, my employees. And that's what I would always do.
I do have to say you take your job position seriously trying to maintain the financial well-being of a company but that act alone does not mean you don't engage in behaviors that straddle a line that you may not want to straddle as a norm.

At what cost (to your company's reputation, to potential legal issues, ethical issues, compliance issues, lawsuit or settlement issues, etc) are you willing to take on for each employee you deny an employment opportunities due to the number of children they have (be it biological, adoption, etc)?

Stuff could eventually catch up. And I'm not sure it would play out in court or public opinion in a positive way. I gather this was a one off but if the stance is reviewing if it comes up how many kids someone has and their burden to the healthcare program costs it won't be the last time it happens.

I should say I don't doubt you work for a great company from your perspective and really they may not be bad but this screening that was done, likely will be done in the future..is not exactly looking good.
 
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Our system of consuming a product we have little or no choice in is stupid!
Yes, it seems crazy to me that one of our biggest expenses is something that we have no control over and may not be the best fit for our family.

Little too late for that now. Don't you think it would be a bit difficult for someone to pay $1200 for insurance on a $2000 income?
I think the point is that your company could afford to pay you $1200 more (that you could then use to buy your own insurance) if they were not providing it as a standard benefit.

I was in the health care field (RN) and even going back to the 90's, my health insurance wasn't covered 100%.
When we were first married my husband (an RN) was covered as the employee 100%, but spouse/family was very high. So we got the family plan from my work instead and I think he received a $100 reimbursement each pay period for not using the insurance benefit.

Currently, we have the cheapest option the hospital offers (still about $1000/mo), but we are also limited in our coverage and cannot see any physicians that are not part of the hospital system. It's honestly ridiculous. They merged with another group this year and started giving raises and some extras, but then whenever we needed any medical care we found that they were charging excessively. Ex. An ultrasound that used to be free now came with a $650 facility fee that the insurance didn't cover.

Man that's an interesting perspective I would never have thought of as an employee/job candidate

I guess at first I would say it's wrong for that to be a factor in hiring and I probably still think so but on the other hand I personally would not want to be working for a company whos numbers are tight enough for that to even be an issue, but I guess I'm fortunate enough to be in an Industry where benefits are generous out of necessity in order to attract talent.
Our company certainly doesn't use family size as a factor in employment, but I can't say that it goes completely unnoticed when the premiums are being paid. The way our insurance is priced is by the age of each person covered. So an employee with a large family or an employee plus spouse who are older cost significantly more. You may have one employee who carries no health insurance whose pay is $40,000. And another employee with a large family who is also paid $40,000 but the company pays an additional $20,000+ for that employee's health insurance. That's a huge difference in total compensation for the same person doing the same job.
 
I do have to say you take your job position seriously trying to maintain the financial well-being of a company but that act alone does not mean you don't engage in behaviors that straddle a line that you may not want to straddle as a norm.

At what cost (to your company's reputation, to potential legal issues, ethical issues, compliance issues, lawsuit or settlement issues, etc) are you willing to take on for each employee you deny an employment opportunities due to the number of children they have (be it biological, adoption, etc)?

Stuff could eventually catch up. And I'm not sure it would play out in court or public opinion in a positive way. I gather this was a one off but if the stance is reviewing if it comes up how many kids someone has and their burden to the healthcare program costs it won't be the last time it happens.

I should say I don't doubt you work for a great company from your perspective and really they may not be bad but this screening that was done, likely will be done in the future..is not exactly looking good.

There was no screening -the person mentioned he had 10 children. Employers have no legal obligation to hire anyone I don't feel is a good fit, within the law. That isn't family responsibility discrimination -which I believe some are confusing this with. That protects EMPLOYEES ...not a person seeking employment. Employers may NOT:

discriminate against a job applicant because of his or her race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.

I understand the point some are making and agree ...but you would need to find a better case than the one I presented to actually support your points ....in my opinion. And I'm very outspoken on employees rights -just ask the President of my Company ...LOL.
 
What about furure additional childern how many is too many?..) right or wrong I'm just pointing out how it looks and how that would make the company less attractive if the info got out there.

The employee would be protected under Family Responsibility Discrimination.
 
There was no screening -the person mentioned he had 10 children. Employers have no legal obligation to hire anyone I don't feel is a good fit, within the law. That isn't family responsibility discrimination -which I believe some are confusing this with. That protects EMPLOYEES ...not a person seeking employment. Employers may NOT:

discriminate against a job applicant because of his or her race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.

I understand the point some are making and agree ...but you would need to find a better case than the one I presented to actually support your points ....in my opinion. And I'm very outspoken on employees rights -just ask the President of my Company ...LOL.
I think you misunderstood the screening comment. I'm not saying you asked that question or it was on question on an interview. I'm saying once you found out just how many kids they had you screened their employment opportunity based on that. You said that a few times. Your poor fit is solely based on how many kids they have not based on their abilities as an employee. I don't say this next part rudely but you are trying to spin it like you're just looking out for the company. I'm trying to say you may be but that doesn't mean that's a good thing either..

I've tried to keep that point clear about legalities because I do know about the discrimination law. Just because something doesn't fall under the letter of the law doesn't mean a company can't get in trouble for it or be on the radar of the DOL and the public. There's also ethics involved.

I really don't think we have to come up with a better example. We're just saying what you used as far as would you hire this person or not is undesirable and wouldn't be a company we'd likely be interested in anyways. I added in I'd probably make a complaint to the DOL for it. I wouldn't expect action but a complaint gets noted. And if a complainant wishes to take legal action they can. Will it go anywhere? IDK depends on how it all unfolds.

In any case, it's probably been talked about enough. It was an interesting point to be brought up and I'll be sure to NOT mention if I'm married, plan to get pregnant, plan to adopt, have a kid (well okay I have a cat..he's kinda like a toddler :rotfl:), or just how many kids I have before getting hired because I may find myself not a good fit for a company's health insurance plan and thus cannot be considered for employment (of course maybe if I mentioned I smoked a lot, had cancer or something else I could be that way too). Do know I'm jesting here really but it sure means one has to be careful just what honest things they say during the application process.
 
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Wouldn't it be easier to just classify employees as salaried?
I'm surprised you don't know there are certain requirements before a business can classify someone as "exempt" (ie: salaried). It has to do with job duties. I'm sure you can look it up and find a bunch of links.
I think the point is that your company could afford to pay you $1200 more (that you could then use to buy your own insurance) if they were not providing it as a standard benefit.
The thing is, if the company is paying $1200 toward your health insurance, the same thing would probably cost the employee at least $1500 (if not more) because the employer is buying in bulk. So now sure, the employee gets more money in their check (great!) but has to spend more to get the same health coverage. Sure, you might be able to spend less for insurance, but you'll probably be giving up some kind of feature/benefit.
 
My Company is self-insured. A couple years ago I was pursuing someone to work for me and it took a while to get an interview. They wanted decent money(but doable), everything looked good until they told me they had 10 children! I never asked -they offered the info in casual conversation. There was no way I could make the math work, given their healthcare costs could be potentially quite high. Needless to say, that never worked out....

Wouldn't it be a kick in the teeth if you hired a single 20 something year old man, thinking you are saving on insurance, but within 4 years he gets married and adopts 8 kids? Then his wife gets pregnant with twins. Doh!
 
Wouldn't it be a kick in the teeth if you hired a single 20 something year old man, thinking you are saving on insurance, but within 4 years he gets married and adopts 8 kids? Then his wife gets pregnant with twins. Doh!

No. It would be perfectly fine. Only a fool would hire on the basis of insurance -the decision was made looking at the total compensation package as a whole ..salary and vacation time were the primary factors, then medical broke the camels back. You're truly reaching now....
 
When I was working I was paying $30 a month for my entire family to have medical, dental & prescription coverage through a union job. I was full time but the union made this available to even many part time workers above a certain number of hours. It was life changing & saving for so many people especially those with limited options. I know of other families with the same union at different businesses who have the same exact coverage plus it protects you from being dropped 'just because' you have medical needs.
 
I don't know the percentage my employer paid (I think after 3 years it's 90%). I paid $100 a month for individual coverage. No deductables. A$15 copay for primary care, $5 for prescriptions, nothing for ER or hospitalization. Nothing for labs, xrays, female visits, etc. Now that I'm retired, they pay 100% with same coverage.
 
$400 every two weeks with a $3000 deductible for each family member

annual skin cancer check - not covered- Fantastically
 
No. It would be perfectly fine. Only a fool would hire on the basis of insurance -the decision was made looking at the total compensation package as a whole ..salary and vacation time were the primary factors, then medical broke the camels back. You're truly reaching now....

It was a joke, but here's a question: do you know if his wife worked? Because she may have one insuring everyone. Then you wouldn't have needed to insure any of them.
 
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My health insurance is covered at almost 100%. I can’t remember what I have to pay but it’s only a few dollars a month. My husband also works for the same school district and his single premium the district would pay goes toward my family insurance premium making it very affordable.
 
They did and now just informed us in november they no longer will. I will now be paying more than I have ever paid in my life. So looking at reduced take home amidst everythign costing more (i work in healthcare).
 
Local government employee here. Ours is 100% paid for employee only. Family coverage is available but quite expensive. DH is not on my insurance any more.
 







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