Does point value decrease over time?

[luna99]

I have the DVD "vacation planning secrets" or whatever it's called about the DVC and was watching it this morning before work (yes, I'm THAT crazy .. I actually watch that dvd over and over for FUN ) ... soooo, I was watching the part with the "pointologist" and he was explaining the point charts for each resort..

then he said something about how the points will NEVER increase and I got lost.

does he mean that if you buy your DVC in 2007 and it's 8 points to stay at SSR on a thursday during the off season that it WILL ALWAYS be 8 points FOR YOU to stay at SSR on a thursday on the off season??? (geez, I hope that made sense).

and if someone else came in and bought DVC lets say.. in the year 2015... it might be more like 15 points for them to stay at SSR on a thursday during the off season because they bought into DVC later than you?

is this right?

thanks!

 

[DVCLiz]

If it costs 8 points now, it will always cost 8 points.

The only exception is the dates of major holidays, so the points change according to when those fall. But if the points go up in one area, they must come down in another. The total number of points must always balance and will never change.

 

[Claire L]

For each DVC development there is a set number of points, although the date for seasons can be changed, some dates move into higher points season others will have to go to the lower points season so that the same number of points are always there. The only dates I see changing seasons are due to Easter and Thanksgiving for example where the dates are not set like say Christmas.

Claire

 

[Doctor P]

All of the previous answers are technically incorrect. The points for ANY day can change (though this is very rare and would not be expected), but the total number of points for a unit for a year cannot change. That is, any increase or decrease in points for a given night or season must be offset by a corresponding opposite change somewhere else in the points schedule. There has been one past reallocation at OKW where weekends were increased and weekdays were decreased among other things, but that is the only reallocation that has occurred.

 

[Chuck S]

As Doctor P said, there can be a total point reallocation, and this did happen at OKW in 1996. The overall changes were fairly minor. A week in a studio in the least expensive season went from 69 points to 80 points, I don't remember where the decrease was.

As far as it being likely that DVC will reallocate points, I doubt we'll see any major changes to the charts, as long as the overall travel habits and demand remain close to their current patterns. Remember that DVC (and all point based timeshares) are designed to operate at nearly full capacity all the time. If they see that demand for some seasons drop drastically, while increasing for other seasons, then you may see some adjustments in point charts to try to compensate for and correct the demand.

 

[jimmacmn]

and if someone else came in and bought DVC lets say.. in the year 2015... it might be more like 15 points for them to stay at SSR on a thursday during the off season because they bought into DVC later than you?

is this right?

thanks!

If that person is buying an SSR contract in 2015, the points schedule would be exactly the same as someone who bought the first contract when SSR opened

 

[IndianaMouseLover]

If that person is buying an SSR contract in 2015, the points schedule would be exactly the same as someone who bought the first contract when SSR opened

Except their cost per point may be more than what we paid in 2007. Poor souls.

 

[crisi]

There is a NOTABLE caveat. DVC resort point allocation will stay the same, but points to use Disney hotels, cruise, use options out of the other collections - those can and DO regularly go up.

i.e. if that SSR room is 8 points this year, it will be 8 points next year if its in the same season (barring the unlikely reallocation). However, a cruise that costs 240 points per person this year might cost 256 points next year.

 

[Eddie]

Except their cost per point may be more than what we paid in 2007. Poor souls.

Actually at some point the points will come down as the years get closer to the end I believe 2054. This will have to work in a bell curve model as it would be insane for someone to buy SSR at say 110 or 115 just using a random # in 2022 for only 32 years of use.

Just my assumption

 

[Amy5000]

Actually at some point the points will come down as the years get closer to the end I believe 2054. This will have to work in a bell curve model as it would be insane for someone to buy SSR at say 110 or 115 just using a random # in 2022 for only 32 years of use.

Except that in 2022 $115 might just buy you Caramel Macchiato plus pastry at Starbucks. So yes, it might be selling for $115 pr pt in 2022.

The people who purchased OKW for $50 per pt can now sell their pts for $70-$80 even though they've already used up 15 years of their pts.

 

[RobDoc]

As noted, the total points cannot be changed, but how they are applied can be changed by raising the values for some nights and lowering the values for others.

In practice this has happened only once - at OKW back in 1996 - when some nights were raised a few points and others were lowered and some saw no change at all.

Since DVC began, there has been no change in the seasons except to change the specific dates due to the annual change in date for Thanksgiving and Easter.

Here is the DVC point chart for OKW from 1991 - 1995. In 1996, the current point chart began and is still valid at least thru 2008 (and the 2009 point charts should be released very soon). The greatest changes were for Adventure Season, where all room types increased. All other seasons saw little or no change on weekdays, but larger decreases on weekends for all room types.

Points listed are for Studio, 1BR, 2BR, GV (weekday/weekend) respectively from 1991 thru 1995:

Adventure Season: 7/17 , 14/35 , 19/47 , 31/77

Choice Season: 8/21 , 17/42 , 23/57 , 37/92

Dream Season: 10/25 , 20/50 , 27/67 , 45/112

Magic Season: 11/28 , 23/57 , 31/77 , 52/130

Premier Season: 15/38 , 31/77 , 42/105 , 68/170

Current point needs:

Adventure: 8/20 , 16/40 , 22/54 , 36/88

Choice: 8/21 , 18/41 , 24/56 , 38/91

Dream: 10/24 , 20/48 , 27/64 , 45/107

Magic: 11/27 , 22/54 , 30/73 , 51/123

Premier: 15/36 , 30/73 , 41/100 , 66/162

 

[SuzanneSLO]

One other point is that there is no guarantee that NEW DVC resorts will have similar point values to existing DVC resorts. There has already been speculation on these boards that the GCV in DLR and the Contemporary DVC (if it ever exists) will have a higher number of points for comparable nights.

My biggest problem with SSR is that I beleive the points chart was set too high in comparison with other DVC at WDW resorts. That does not seem to have happened at AKV, so maybe DVC learned its lesson. DVC has an inherant interest in setting the points charts high because it gives them more sales revenue for the same cost to build.

However, the home resort advantage helps to minimize the impact of this issue on each existing DVC owner. One of the current issues with the Worldmark timeshare system is that new resorts are being built with higher points for comparable stays so that the developer can sell more points, but owners in the Worldmark program have no protection allowing them any advantage in booking at the older resorts.

-- Suzanne