Does Epcot open early for 1/2 and marathon runners?

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Just wondering if Epcot opens a little early on the mornings of the 1/2 and full marathons. I figure that I will finish the 1/2 by 7:30 or so, depending on how many pictures I stop for. DH and DD will meet me at the finish in the Epcot parking lot. I thought it would make sense to go into Epcot right at opening, after the race to get on Soarin' and TT before the lines get too long. Or do all of the runners do this, and the lines are extra long?

Are there lots of activities and photo ops at the finish that I will not want to miss?

Just trying to maximize our park time because we are only there for 3 days.

Thanks!
 
Just wondering if Epcot opens a little early on the mornings of the 1/2 and full marathons. I figure that I will finish the 1/2 by 7:30 or so, depending on how many pictures I stop for. DH and DD will meet me at the finish in the Epcot parking lot. I thought it would make sense to go into Epcot right at opening, after the race to get on Soarin' and TT before the lines get too long. Or do all of the runners do this, and the lines are extra long?

Are there lots of activities and photo ops at the finish that I will not want to miss?

Just trying to maximize our park time because we are only there for 3 days.

Thanks!

Unless the park is scheduled for EMH's, NOPE.
 
Just wondering if Epcot opens a little early on the mornings of the 1/2 and full marathons. I figure that I will finish the 1/2 by 7:30 or so, depending on how many pictures I stop for. DH and DD will meet me at the finish in the Epcot parking lot. I thought it would make sense to go into Epcot right at opening, after the race to get on Soarin' and TT before the lines get too long. Or do all of the runners do this, and the lines are extra long?

Are there lots of activities and photo ops at the finish that I will not want to miss?

Just trying to maximize our park time because we are only there for 3 days.

Thanks!

Great question! We were wondering the same thing!
 

No, and Saturday is not the early opening day. Note that if you are a 3 hour half runner, Epcot will be opening before you are finishing....

On Sunday, the World Showcase (back half) of Epcot opens at 11. So if you are running a 5:15 marathon of faster, it is not open as you circle the last mile through the different countries. No last mile beer or margarita unless you are in the 5:30 range or slower. There is always a little crowd as you pass by England and up the bridge heading into France, but then cast members only from there.
 
No, and Saturday is not the early opening day. Note that if you are a 3 hour half runner, Epcot will be opening before you are finishing....

On Sunday, the World Showcase (back half) of Epcot opens at 11. So if you are running a 5:15 marathon of faster, it is not open as you circle the last mile through the different countries. No last mile beer or margarita unless you are in the 5:30 range or slower. There is always a little crowd as you pass by England and up the bridge heading into France, but then cast members only from there.

So, unless we are a sub 3:30 Marathoner we still have to deal with DAK being open? I hate dealing with the crowds because no matter what, there are always those that feel it necessary to cross the path in front of you and ignore the castmembers. :confused:
 
cewait said:
No, and Saturday is not the early opening day. Note that if you are a 3 hour half runner, Epcot will be opening before you are finishing....

On Sunday, the World Showcase (back half) of Epcot opens at 11. So if you are running a 5:15 marathon of faster, it is not open as you circle the last mile through the different countries. No last mile beer or margarita unless you are in the 5:30 range or slower. There is always a little crowd as you pass by England and up the bridge heading into France, but then cast members only from there.

I was a late 1/2 runner and park guests either looked confused or cheered us on. LOL

Rupert B Puppenstein said:
So, unless we are a sub 3:30 Marathoner we still have to deal with DAK being open? I hate dealing with the crowds because no matter what, there are always those that feel it necessary to cross the path in front of you and ignore the castmembers. :confused:

Really? That's messed up. I'm thinking maybe a little dangerous too.

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I was a late 1/2 runner and park guests either looked confused or cheered us on. LOL



Really? That's messed up. I'm thinking maybe a little dangerous too.

Yes. It is definitely dangerous. I was not a happy camper this year because I was hurting and very slow for my first attempt at the Goofy. I was ready to just push people out of my way at both DAK, but more so at DHS. It was nice to have the crowds in Epcot making my way to the finish line because I really needed that push, but I didn't expect to have so many people as obstacles.

BTW - I saw your ticker for the Long Island Diva. How was that race? I did the Myrtle Beach one and wasn't terribly impressed. It was fun, but the course wasn't great.
 
Rupert B Puppenstein said:
Yes. It is definitely dangerous. I was not a happy camper this year because I was hurting and very slow for my first attempt at the Goofy. I was ready to just push people out of my way at both DAK, but more so at DHS. It was nice to have the crowds in Epcot making my way to the finish line because I really needed that push, but I didn't expect to have so many people as obstacles.

BTW - I saw your ticker for the Long Island Diva. How was that race? I did the Myrtle Beach one and wasn't terribly impressed. It was fun, but the course wasn't great.

It was good. It's not a Disney race so there were some long stretches with nothing, but most of the course was familiar to me. The hunks at the end cracked me up. I would've rather had my hairy-chested, pooch-bellied DH slip my medal over my head but unfortunately he was at DD's soccer tournament.

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So, unless we are a sub 3:30 Marathoner we still have to deal with DAK being open? I hate dealing with the crowds because no matter what, there are always those that feel it necessary to cross the path in front of you and ignore the castmembers. :confused:

I thought I calculated that all but the 6-7 hour runners would clear the DAK by rope drop. It really depends on how the waves are fired off.

Actually, in previous years a sub 5 hr runner had an open park.

I do agree that the temporary pathways in DAK were less than adequate. If a guest were supersized in a wheel chair, the temporary paths were too small. I know that the park has just been rope dropped the last few years I have run. I see folks running to Everest as I go through and wonder how long they have to wait for a break in the race.




My first marathon through DAK was pre-everest. We ran through the Dinoland Gate that is depressed (the path from the Tree of Life into DinoLand). Disney went to great lengths to pads all exposed surfaces of the gate just in case someone went out of control. I died laughing at the thought of me a then 16 minute pacer missing the gate.
 
Yes. It is definitely dangerous. I was not a happy camper this year because I was hurting and very slow for my first attempt at the Goofy. I was ready to just push people out of my way at both DAK, but more so at DHS. It was nice to have the crowds in Epcot making my way to the finish line because I really needed that push, but I didn't expect to have so many people as obstacles.

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I have had more crowd issues in Epcot than DAK or DHS. I saw a guest during my first marathon (again) who wanted to be unhappy about something. I was barely running at that point and I could see him arguing about his paying for an entry and it was his right to cross when and where he wanted. I just instinctively brought my hands up as he turned and started crossing. Fortunately, I just brushed him. No way could I have avoided him as any change in direction was only after lots of thought. Plus, I too was wanting to prove that I had the right of way.
 
I have had more crowd issues in Epcot than DAK or DHS. I saw a guest during my first marathon (again) who wanted to be unhappy about something. I was barely running at that point and I could see him arguing about his paying for an entry and it was his right to cross when and where he wanted. I just instinctively brought my hands up as he turned and started crossing. Fortunately, I just brushed him. No way could I have avoided him as any change in direction was only after lots of thought. Plus, I too was wanting to prove that I had the right of way.

That is unfortunate. Guess that guy never ran a race before. Either way, that experience has motivated me to speed up a bit for the Marathon. So, it looks like I will be taking it easy for the Half during Goofy this year. I have those annoying people to thank. ;)
 
.......Guess that guy never ran a race before....... ;)

I am a very easy going individual. It bothers me more when fellow competitors do something that could cause a collision. I just chalk it up to a possible lack of experience since the possibility is good that the guest has never run a race.
 
I am a very easy going individual. It bothers me more when fellow competitors do something that could cause a collision. I just chalk it up to a possible lack of experience since the possibility is good that the guest has never run a race.

I agree, that can be bothersome too. Disney does have the worst of it because so many people stop to take pictures and are newbies who want to chronicle their experience. I still don't understand why people don't move into the grass for those opportunities and wait until no one is around them. We had that happen at the 10 miler with a lady just stopping. I would imagine it just takes one person running into you to think about that in the future. I can accept when people trip or stumble, because a lot of that can't be helped, but don't trip people to take a picture.

I guess I am just used to having to deal with that at Disney now and anticipate things happening. I just don't see much of that during my other races. Granted, most of them are so much smaller. I can't imagine how the 2013 Marathon is going to be with 20,000 runners. :scared:
 
I am also semi easy going... Can an A type person be that way?



I have also collided in MK with a fellow runner who saw a second tier character on course left. The issue.... she was course right and made an immediate left hand turn without looking. All I saw was a flash coming across and it was kind of like NASCAR. I was PO'd at the fact that she nearly ruined my goofy at mile 5.5 of the weekend. Fortunately, no one was injured in the wreck.


For the most part, folks are well behaved at WDW marathon. I have seen a few cases where folks get tangled, where a runner did not see a speed bump, or where a spectator walked along the edge of the course. These are normal for a race with 50k runners over the weekend. Though it does bring up a great time to think about etiquette.

We should all be respectful of the 2-3 feet in front of a fellow runner and aware of the 2-3 feet behind you as a runner. (I use runner, but mean runner, walker, run/walker, jogger)

If running in a group, run NO MORE than two abreast, please. There are places on course where you can go wider, but even there, you are possibly forcing a faster runner to go very wide.

If you find yourself in a spot where you are going really slow compared with others (e.g. you are in a really fast corral or you are just starting a walk break) hang near the side of the course. Right or left dos not matter. But, please keep a 1 - 1.5 person width between you and the edge of the pavement. There is a fast moving train of folks who run just on or just off course. Moving to the very edge bottles up this narrow path.

When slowing for a walk break, move to the near edge before slowing. Raise a hand, look around and otherwise make sure you do not have a tailgater. Too often folks will just slow up without looking around or slow up then head sharply to the side.

Keep your line. Predictability goes along way. You will find especially near the start that you have hundreds of extreme zig zaggers. They cut gaps and create havoc. Stay on your line as best you can. You will conserve energy and possibly avoid getting tangled.

Announce yourself a simple coming through, coming left when approaching a group or a wobbly runner will let them know you are about to be next to them. I find that rolling roadblocks (groups of friends who do not keep it to two abreast) will often open a hole with these simple announcements. Obviously, a thank you as you pass is in order, as well.

Aid stations can be a mess. All aid stations should be set up the same way. Usually water then sport drink. There is always one station that did not get that memo, but all 20 other are usually that way. First, if you are passing a station, move to the center line as you approach the station and just run through. If you are looking for water or sport drink or both, do not hug the edge of the road but look at the traffic of the station. You will see the volunteers are about 2-3 feet out from the table. Then you will see a line of walkers just inside the volunteers. Just inside these guys are the runners who are looking for a handup without stopping. Be careful as you slow or stop running. You may have a tail gater who is thinking you are looking for a hand up. Make eye contact with the volunteer and they will work to get you the cup. If another runner grabs yours keep moving. There are other volunteers. Most of us are in the thicker part of the race (i.e. most runners). Understand that the first set of tables is the most worked and under stocked table. Look to beginning you search for a volunteer near the middle of the row of tables. It will be much less crowded.

When finished with your cup, take care throwing it away. Look to make sure you are not getting passed as you throw the cup off course. While refreshing, most runners really do not like the sticky residue PowerAde leaves. Also, it is not a game to splash the trash raker. Try to throw at the trash can but take care to not throw at a person. (seems obvious now but watch) I tend to carry a cup a little longer and am often past the last trash. If you find you are in this spot, throw next to an existing cup. You will see that many others in front of you have done the same.

When fueling, throw your refuse to the side also. The place on course where bananas are passed up looks like a bad cartoon with all the peels in the roadway. Most fuels are slick and sticky.

Back near the start… It will feel chilly pre-race (hopefully). Many runners will use trash sacks or other throw down clothing to keep warm before the start. If you are removing clothing in the corral, please make sure your discards are on the outside of the fence. They are not a tripping hazard to you, but can be to others behind you.

Just be aware that prerace and early race potty breaks are equal opportunity or coed. To many it is disgusting and on a normal day I would agree. Just make sure where you are if you head off course for a break.

Thank a volunteer. No matter what race you are running in, the race would fail without these folks. A simple thanks for being here goes a long way.

I know there are many others, I just hit a block here.
 
Rupert B Puppenstein said:
I agree, that can be bothersome too. Disney does have the worst of it because so many people stop to take pictures and are newbies who want to chronicle their experience. I still don't understand why people don't move into the grass for those opportunities and wait until no one is around them. We had that happen at the 10 miler with a lady just stopping. I would imagine it just takes one person running into you to think about that in the future. I can accept when people trip or stumble, because a lot of that can't be helped, but don't trip people to take a picture.

I guess I am just used to having to deal with that at Disney now and anticipate things happening. I just don't see much of that during my other races. Granted, most of them are so much smaller. I can't imagine how the 2013 Marathon is going to be with 20,000 runners. :scared:

Don't scare me. I'll be one of them.

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cewait said:
I am also semi easy going... Can an A type person be that way?

I have also collided in MK with a fellow runner who saw a second tier character on course left. The issue.... she was course right and made an immediate left hand turn without looking. All I saw was a flash coming across and it was kind of like NASCAR. I was PO'd at the fact that she nearly ruined my goofy at mile 5.5 of the weekend. Fortunately, no one was injured in the wreck.

For the most part, folks are well behaved at WDW marathon. I have seen a few cases where folks get tangled, where a runner did not see a speed bump, or where a spectator walked along the edge of the course. These are normal for a race with 50k runners over the weekend. Though it does bring up a great time to think about etiquette.

We should all be respectful of the 2-3 feet in front of a fellow runner and aware of the 2-3 feet behind you as a runner. (I use runner, but mean runner, walker, run/walker, jogger)

If running in a group, run NO MORE than two abreast, please. There are places on course where you can go wider, but even there, you are possibly forcing a faster runner to go very wide.

If you find yourself in a spot where you are going really slow compared with others (e.g. you are in a really fast corral or you are just starting a walk break) hang near the side of the course. Right or left dos not matter. But, please keep a 1 - 1.5 person width between you and the edge of the pavement. There is a fast moving train of folks who run just on or just off course. Moving to the very edge bottles up this narrow path.

When slowing for a walk break, move to the near edge before slowing. Raise a hand, look around and otherwise make sure you do not have a tailgater. Too often folks will just slow up without looking around or slow up then head sharply to the side.

Keep your line. Predictability goes along way. You will find especially near the start that you have hundreds of extreme zig zaggers. They cut gaps and create havoc. Stay on your line as best you can. You will conserve energy and possibly avoid getting tangled.

Announce yourself a simple coming through, coming left when approaching a group or a wobbly runner will let them know you are about to be next to them. I find that rolling roadblocks (groups of friends who do not keep it to two abreast) will often open a hole with these simple announcements. Obviously, a thank you as you pass is in order, as well.

Aid stations can be a mess. All aid stations should be set up the same way. Usually water then sport drink. There is always one station that did not get that memo, but all 20 other are usually that way. First, if you are passing a station, move to the center line as you approach the station and just run through. If you are looking for water or sport drink or both, do not hug the edge of the road but look at the traffic of the station. You will see the volunteers are about 2-3 feet out from the table. Then you will see a line of walkers just inside the volunteers. Just inside these guys are the runners who are looking for a handup without stopping. Be careful as you slow or stop running. You may have a tail gater who is thinking you are looking for a hand up. Make eye contact with the volunteer and they will work to get you the cup. If another runner grabs yours keep moving. There are other volunteers. Most of us are in the thicker part of the race (i.e. most runners). Understand that the first set of tables is the most worked and under stocked table. Look to beginning you search for a volunteer near the middle of the row of tables. It will be much less crowded.

When finished with your cup, take care throwing it away. Look to make sure you are not getting passed as you throw the cup off course. While refreshing, most runners really do not like the sticky residue PowerAde leaves. Also, it is not a game to splash the trash raker. Try to throw at the trash can but take care to not throw at a person. (seems obvious now but watch) I tend to carry a cup a little longer and am often past the last trash. If you find you are in this spot, throw next to an existing cup. You will see that many others in front of you have done the same.

When fueling, throw your refuse to the side also. The place on course where bananas are passed up looks like a bad cartoon with all the peels in the roadway. Most fuels are slick and sticky.

Back near the start… It will feel chilly pre-race (hopefully). Many runners will use trash sacks or other throw down clothing to keep warm before the start. If you are removing clothing in the corral, please make sure your discards are on the outside of the fence. They are not a tripping hazard to you, but can be to others behind you.

Just be aware that prerace and early race potty breaks are equal opportunity or coed. To many it is disgusting and on a normal day I would agree. Just make sure where you are if you head off course for a break.

Thank a volunteer. No matter what race you are running in, the race would fail without these folks. A simple thanks for being here goes a long way.

I know there are many others, I just hit a block here.

Thanks for the tips Coach. You should repost this in the WDW Marathon Weekend thread.

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So, unless we are a sub 3:30 Marathoner we still have to deal with DAK being open? I hate dealing with the crowds because no matter what, there are always those that feel it necessary to cross the path in front of you and ignore the castmembers. :confused:

I've never had problems with the crowds at DAK in the past, and with us passing through the park several miles earlier this year, I think there be even less chance of a problem with parkgoers. It's the ones in DHS that always seem to try to cross right in front of you.
 
As a back-of-the-packer, I can say I've had problems with crowds at DAK and DHS but for some reason not at Epcot. In both the former parks, I've heard guests complaining to Cast Members that they've paid admission to be there and didn't want to wait for runners and walkers to cross the course. I've also heard those complaints when I've scream-teamed outside DHS.

I've also attributed their responses up to not being runners, or knowing runners. And there seems to be a higher percentage of guests who don't know about the marathon at those parks and/or don't think the marathon will affect those parks by the time they get there.

I will say as far as crowds and the park being open, the marathon can be a good time to ride Everest in DAK is you have the cushion. I haven't but know several people who have, as Cast Members are pretty good about getting runners to the front of the line. (Now, I haven't studied the course closely to know when I'll hit DAK, so this might not be a consideration anymore.)

I didn't realize we might be able to drink at Epcot World Showcase in that last leg. I wonder if my stomach could handle it.....
 



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