Does anyone else believe this

[penn19]

Actually, no, they do have to be nice to other people.

A religious believe does not excuse people being mean or rude. Nor should someone assume everyone of the same religion acts the same way.

I'm sorry you lived in an area where that happened to you. People who take their bigotry and try to hammer their religion into in as justification do nothing but hurt others, themselves, and their religion.

My kids go to school, where other kids tell them that they are going to Hell, because they are not the right religion.

I would not assume everyone of this one particular religion is the same. At least I hope not. But the overwhelming majority that I have met are.

 

[ilovemk76]

This explains so much to me now. Where I live, everyone is "religious". A lot of them aren't very nice, and are downright mean if you aren't the "right" religion. But now I get it. You don't have to be nice to other people, or accepting of others. You just have to accept your faith. Ok. Not impressed.

It is only a small segment of Christians who believe what you quoted. Catholics believe your actions do matter and living a Christ like life is to be strived for. In general, the rapture and just accepting Jesus as your personal savior, is a US born-again teaching. They also have the highest divorce rate.

 

[ElizK]

This explains so much to me now. Where I live, everyone is "religious". A lot of them aren't very nice, and are downright mean if you aren't the "right" religion. But now I get it. You don't have to be nice to other people, or accepting of others. You just have to accept your faith. Ok. Not impressed.

My kids go to school, where other kids tell them that they are going to Hell, because they are not the right religion.

I would not assume everyone of this one particular religion is the same. At least I hope not. But the overwhelming majority that I have met are.

Reminds me of the beginning of DC Talk's song What if I Stumble:
“The single greatest cause of atheism in the world today is Christians, who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, then walk out the door, and deny Him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable”
As a born-again Christian I try to be aware of how my words and my actions affect others, but I know I often fail to reflect God's love. If we our focus is on people, we will be disappointed every time. Our focus should be on God only.

eta... I absolutely do not believe that anyone can know when the rapture will be.

 

[Mermaid02]

Can I ask why you get offended if people think that? Is it that you don't believe that heaven and hell exist or is it something else? My stepsister felt the same way. It would get her so mad.


Nothing snowflake about it. As others have said it's a matter of faith. Believing what the Bible says and making the decision that is says you have to make. That is what assures you your place in heaven.



Then why read it? I know I have come across some threads before that creep me out, so I just avoid them all together.

Oh, so he changed it, huh? Didn't know that. He has been wrong before, and will be wrong again this time.


That is so sad. Let us know what they say when this guys "prophecies" don't come true.



There is suffering because of man's sinful nature. Because some people are full of evil. Why is it that we expect God to save us from everything when we have denied his existence and turned our backs on him?[/QUOTE]

Blood creeps me out too and I work in a surgeon's office.

And as for the bolded...... I'm glad you're not talking about my God.......

 

[minniemarie]

To be honest, did a bit of googling earlier but bar that odd chaps site I didn't really find that much, Please could someone point me in the right direction of where this came from. I'm alway fascinated by doomsday scenarios and where they started.

PS Don't actually believe in them just wonder how they start.

 

[wtpntigger2]

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
the sinners are much more fun... -- Billy Joel

 

[jlewisinsyr]

Its sad people actually buy into this.

 

[ZephyrHawk]

I would love to know why it seems that making fun of relegious beliefs is ok but discussing them without judgment is not.

Discussing religious beliefs without judgment is perfectly okay (although perhaps against the Disboard rules...I'm not really sure how they work), just too serious for a posting board where I go to have fun and talk about beloved animated characters. Laughing is better, for everyone.

Regardless, I am not making fun of any religious beliefs or believers, I am making fun of myself by implying that I am obviously not important enough to get into heaven (or heck for that matter).

 

[minniemarie]

Discussing religious beliefs without judgment is perfectly okay (although perhaps against the Disboard rules...I'm not really sure how they work), just too serious for a posting board where I go to have fun and talk about beloved animated characters. Laughing is better, for everyone.

Regardless, I am not making fun of any religious beliefs or believers, I am making fun of myself by implying that I am obviously not important enough to get into heaven (or heck for that matter).

Me too, I'm definately not going anywhere but am available for pet sitting!

 

[luvsJack]

Contradiction?

Not saying anyone here, but my problem is that I know many people who believe they are 'chosen'. That they lead the only and right life. That everyone else is somehow 'less than' and not quite 'worthy'. They are the worst at judging others and their lives. If you delve into their pasts . They are very self-righteous and yet live less than stellar lives to this day. Just because you go to church, tithe and read the Bible does not mean you will be among the chosen. Just because you believe in God does not mean that you can continue to do whatever you feel and wash that all away with being truly repentent at the end (and the heck with the inbetween).

Not sure what you mean by contradiction. But I try very hard not to judge and I try very hard to live the way God meant for us to live. But, no one is perfect. Being Christian does not make one perfect or suddenly able to only do the right thing. .

Agreed. A couple of hours in church every Sunday doesn't automatically make a person more worthy than someone who just lives life by a strong moral code. Most good people know right from wrong, and don't need the Bible or religion to guide them in the right direction.

I hope this doesn't offend, as its not meant to. Apologies in advance!

Its not really about knowing right from wrong or sitting in a church pew.

This explains so much to me now. Where I live, everyone is "religious". A lot of them aren't very nice, and are downright mean if you aren't the "right" religion. But now I get it. You don't have to be nice to other people, or accepting of others. You just have to accept your faith. Ok. Not impressed.

No, that is not it at all. It would take more than they are going to allow here to explain it. But, just know that God WILL forgive anything but you have to be true in asking and you can't go around doing the wrong thing knowing you are going to ask for forgivness.

 

[AndreaDM]

So when we go to pick up our kids at the park on May 21 and they're not there, should we assume they were kidnapped or raptured?

 

[Conservative Hippie]

So when we go to pick up our kids at the park on May 21 and they're not there, should we assume they were kidnapped or raptured?

No rapture for you!

 

[bgirldeb]

So when we go to pick up our kids at the park on May 21 and they're not there, should we assume they were kidnapped or raptured?

 

[cinabug]

I grew up very fundamentalist, and I rember being shown a film about the rapture in youth group. It was old then, maybe from the 70s or 80s. The main character was a woman who was not raptured, and neither was her unborn fetus. That part always bugged me. I don't remember it all that clearly now, but it was a series of several films.

 

[MoonFaerie]

So does anyone else think the couple mentioned in the news should be denied State/government funded benefits when they apply on May 22?

I don't because it's not the kids fault their parents are being irresponsible. I think the Family Radio people are the ones morally responsible, but if they don't take care of their followers, then innocent children shouldn't go hungry, IMO.

 

[Goofyluver]

There is suffering because of man's sinful nature. Because some people are full of evil. Why is it that we expect God to save us from everything when we have denied his existence and turned our backs on him?

Actually, some folks don't expect God to save us from anything.

Are those the folks you're blaming for the suffering we see in our world today?

 

[minniemarie]

I personally don't expect to be saved from anything?! What I gather from Family Radio ia a load of .... Bizarre. I think I'll still be here but can offer $5 per day for pet sitting.

 

[Buckalew11]

The word "rapture" is not found in the Bible. However, there are many scriptures that lead believers to the idea of rapture. BUT, not on May 21, 2011. No one will know...He goes to prepare a place for you and all that...Jewish custom...

So, while I believe in the concept of "the rapture" happening one day at the end of the age of Grace, I do no think it will be on 5/21/11--I have no idea when it will happen or if I'll live to see it happen.

If one studies Revelation, you will be taken from book to book throughout the OT and NT of the Bible. Read Daniel too. There is so much "end times" stuff scattered throughout the Bible it'll make your head swim! It really is a concept carried throughout the whole Bible.

 

[torinsmom]

And what was the point of her getting pregnant? She's not due until June and apparently kids don't get to go.

Kids do get to go if they have not reached the age of being able to make the decision to trust God themselves(varies from child to child). Children who are beyond that age will be raptured if they have been saved.

Ok, I just think I'm really misunderstanding the "no religious discussion" rule for the boards. And I generally do get offended when people think I'm going to hell (or whatevere). I just have to get over it I guess.

I never said you(or anyone else) was going to hell. I simply said I worry about my friends who are non-believers, because I love them and my belief says they will not be raptured. I don't even know if I believe in hell, but I do believe in eternal life.

Meh. Either it happens or it doesn't. Not that we could stop it.

But what the group is saying is fuzzy. First it was Jesus was returning on May 21st. Now we are going to have earthquakes on May 21st, and Jesus returns October 21.

To be frank, I don't worry about it. It happens when it happens. The arguing that exists between different theologies over how or when the end of the world happens seems pointless to me. Just wait and see.

The rapture and the second coming are two different things. The bible does give a time for the second coming. It will be 7 years to the day after the tribulation begins(at the time of the rapture), according to the prophecy expert I follow.

Hoping my post doesn't lead to any points, but I have to say that I would have no interest in "flying up". I'm not spiritual in the least, but who would want a God who excludes some of his children? Where is the love in that? That's my main question to anyone of faith. If there is a God, why is there suffering?

God doesn't want to exclude anyone. He asks us to believe by faith and to accept his gift. That's easy enough. Everyone gets the chance. There is suffering because man was given free will, and we have caused all the suffering. He gives us the strength to deal with the suffering.

Who said that? Its not rapture or hell.



Nothing snowflake about it. And no one is being "picked". Its not a volley ball team.

And within our beliefs, Jesus IS the reason we will go. The Bible tells us exactly what we need to do. So, from a believers pov, there is no question.



Well, its all open to interpertation.



I would love to know why it seems that making fun of relegious beliefs is ok but discussing them without judgment is not.

I know. People are always making fun of religion here

Contradiction?

Not saying anyone here, but my problem is that I know many people who believe they are 'chosen'. That they lead the only and right life. That everyone else is somehow 'less than' and not quite 'worthy'. They are the worst at judging others and their lives. If you delve into their pasts . They are very self-righteous and yet live less than stellar lives to this day. Just because you go to church, tithe and read the Bible does not mean you will be among the chosen. Just because you believe in God does not mean that you can continue to do whatever you feel and wash that all away with being truly repentent at the end (and the heck with the inbetween).

As a bumper sticker I once saw said, "I'm not perfect, just forgiven". We are all chosen by God, but then we have to make our own choice, and choose to believe by faith.

The "Christians" you describe are the ones that stand out. I(and none of my Christian friends) are like that. I don't even think you have to go to church to be saved; church is just a place to learn more and be with those who believe similarly.

 

[plutotek]

Its sad people actually buy into this.

And sadder they buy into any mythology. But, hey, whatever gets you through the day.