Do you use E-cigarettes in the park?

[nytimez]

if vaping is confined to DSA, isn't that in violation of my rights not to inhale second hand smoke? thus still putting me at risk for anything that may occur with smoking? which kinda defeats the purpose of not smoking?

This isn't a "rights" issue. You can choose to smoke or vape, or not.

 

[disneymomma1978]

I would look at these more on the basis of being an inhaler - like what someone with asthma would use, except for nicotine.

First, I'll say I have no problem with e-cigarettes and if they don't expel any actual smoke, I have no problem with you 'smoking' them around me!

I do have a bit of a problem with the idea of comparing them with an inhaler. They are a smoking cessation tool whereas my inhaler is literally a lifesaver.

 

[disneynutsss]

This isn't a "rights" issue. You can choose to smoke or vape, or not.

ah, i know. didnt know how else to word it... i knew someone would set me straight!!!

 

[nytimez]

ah, i know. didnt know how else to word it... i knew someone would set me straight!!!

That's OK. Just don't want to turn this into a rights battle. As I said, I really don't have an issue with the vaping.

 

[disneynutsss]

That's OK. Just don't want to turn this into a rights battle. As I said, I really don't have an issue with the vaping.

yeah, i dont like battles either

 

[housemouse]

if vaping is confined to DSA, isn't that in violation of my rights not to inhale second hand smoke? thus still putting me at risk for anything that may occur with smoking? which kinda defeats the purpose of not smoking?

That's just the thing though. It would literally be impossible to confine them anywhere. If you buy one that doesn't resemble a cigarette and doesn't light up, and then learn how to exhale without emitting the vapor(easy to do), then how would anyone know you were even doing it?

 

[disneynutsss]

That's just the thing though. It would literally be impossible to confine them anywhere. If you buy one that doesn't resemble a cigarette and doesn't light up, and then learn how to exhale without emitting the vapor(easy to do), then how would anyone know you were even doing it?

this is so true.

but you know what is going to happen? the government is going to restrict or ban them for one reason or another - because they are going to lose LOTS of money on them.

i hope i can get mine and eventually go down to the zero nicotine cartridges before that happens.

 

[nytimez]

but you know what is going to happen? the government is going to restrict or ban them for one reason or another - because they are going to lose LOTS of money on them.

I don't believe that. They could tax "smoke juice" just as easily as they tax anything else.

I don't smoke or vape. But if I did, I'd be more concerned that most "smoke juice" is made in China. I know it's impossible to avoid Chinese products, but I avoid foods from there as much as possible (lots of frozen veggies come from China, for example -- I won't touch them). I would be just as worried about their "smoke juice."

It's not that everything from China is bad. But it's simply impossible to regulate product and ensure the quality of their goods with any consistency, and it's especially important with something you inhale or ingest.

 

[housemouse]

I don't believe that. They could tax "smoke juice" just as easily as they tax anything else.

I don't smoke or vape. But if I did, I'd be more concerned that most "smoke juice" is made in China. I know it's impossible to avoid Chinese products, but I avoid foods from there as much as possible (lots of frozen veggies come from China, for example -- I won't touch them). I would be just as worried about their "smoke juice."

It's not that everything from China is bad. But it's simply impossible to regulate product and ensure the quality of their goods with any consistency, and it's especially important with something you inhale or ingest.

I'm not so sure that they could tax smoke juice just as easily. The obscene tax profits that the government is raking in is on tobacco, not nicotine. If they tax nicotine as obscenely, then the tax would also increase on patches and gum. Which would really send a message out to folks that the government certainly has no interest in you stopping smoking, but that they certainly have a vested interest in you continuing to do so.That could be a sticky mess for them. But hey, then again it's the government. They could tax breathing if they want to.

I don't disagree about the chinese part either. But there are companies in the USA that make these juices without the Chinese contribution.

And yes vegetable selections are scary. And it's not just the ones from China that have me worried. There's a whole lot coming in from other countries too that could be tainted.

 

[angierae]

I am a rabid anti-smoker after losing my dad to lung cancer when he was 43, and watching my sister get diagnosed with lung cancer at 42 and having it metastisize to her esophagus three years later.

And I think that the e-cigs are incredibly awesome. If it allows someone to work on their nicotine addiction while putting fewer poisons into themselves/the air, I'm all for it.

As for curious kids? "That's something s/he is using to help her stop smoking cigarettes, since cigarettes are really bad for you."

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

Just to say that I think it is great how WDW makes the smoking sections so nice. sometimes I spot a nice area and think wow that's a nice spot and then I realize it is a DSA.

I don't smoke btw, except cigars now and then.

 

[NotUrsula]

I'm not so sure that they could tax smoke juice just as easily. The obscene tax profits that the government is raking in is on tobacco, not nicotine. If they tax nicotine as obscenely, then the tax would also increase on patches and gum. Which would really send a message out to folks that the government certainly has no interest in you stopping smoking, but that they certainly have a vested interest in you continuing to do so.That could be a sticky mess for them. But hey, then again it's the government. They could tax breathing if they want to.
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Most of that "obscene profit" is going to support the medical costs of Medicaid and Medicare patients who are victims of tobacco-related diseases. Get rid of the tobacco and you get rid of the tobacco-related medical bills, too; the higher taxes would eventually not be needed, if recreational tobacco use goes the way of the dodo bird.

However, I don't have any issue with a more moderate "sin tax" on e-cigs if they are going to be accepted as recreational nicotine-delivery vehicles. (If you class the liquid nicotine as a drug and require a scrip, then a sin tax would not be appropriate.)

 

[kt_mom]

However, I don't have any issue with a more moderate "sin tax" on e-cigs if they are going to be accepted as recreational nicotine-delivery vehicles. (If you class the liquid nicotine as a drug and require a scrip, then a sin tax would not be appropriate.)

This is the problem, too many people are okay with a so called "sin tax" as long as it doesn't affect their vice. In my opinion its a slippery slope.

 

[rie'smom]

Most of that "obscene profit" is going to support the medical costs of Medicaid and Medicare patients who are victims of tobacco-related diseases. Get rid of the tobacco and you get rid of the tobacco-related medical bills, too; the higher taxes would eventually not be needed, if recreational tobacco use goes the way of the dodo bird.

However, I don't have any issue with a more moderate "sin tax" on e-cigs if they are going to be accepted as recreational nicotine-delivery vehicles. (If you class the liquid nicotine as a drug and require a scrip, then a sin tax would not be appropriate.)

No problem with the sin tax as long as an equal tax is placed on chips, candy, cookies, cakes, soft drinks, etc because gluttony is also a sin. Food can also be a drug.

 

[famsen]

There are e-cigs that have a a blue tip at the end and even a black cartridge top part so that it really looks NOTHING like a real cigarette and no one can mistake it for being a lit flame of any kind.
I bought my husband one that looks like a real cigarette and one with the blue tip so it's not so alarming to others.

 

[rie'smom]

I bought pink e cigarttes today just so people would know they aren't the real thing.

 

[Planogirl]

No problem with the sin tax as long as an equal tax is placed on chips, candy, cookies, cakes, soft drinks, etc because gluttony is also a sin. Food can also be a drug.

THAT would be a big slippery slope IMO. Would diet soft drinks also be taxed? At the same or a lower rate? What about dark chocolate which apparently is actually good for you? (In limited quantities of course.) And so on.

I hope that sin taxes go the way of the dodo bird.

 

[rie'smom]

THAT would be a big slippery slope IMO. Would diet soft drinks also be taxed? At the same or a lower rate? What about dark chocolate which apparently is actually good for you? (In limited quantities of course.) And so on.

I hope that sin taxes go the way of the dodo bird.

So do I. I was making a point that if you tax one thing as a "sin" then who determines what the next sin will become.

 

[Planogirl]

So do I. I was making a point that if you tax one thing as a "sin" then who determines what the next sin will become.

True. Very true.

I love these e-cigs and don't see why everyone doesn't. No smell, no harmful second smoke, better for everyone's health... what's not to love?

 

[gris gris]

can someone tell me which brand feels close to a cigarette as in length and weight? I really want to buy a starter kit for DH and but I know he will really want it to be like the real thing. From looking at them online, it is hard to tell.

I'm going to try one too I'm an ex-smoker and have been waiting for the day something like this came along, because I liked the habit of it more than anything else. Lucky for me I won't need the nicotine. You can get them nicotine free right?

Wouldn't it be fantastic if these caught on, real cigs went away, and there was no debate at all? It would be just another thing someone has in their mouth, like people who chew on pens, or gum, etc....