Do you tip Mousekeeping?

[DaisyD]

Everyone has ways of doing things that others don't agree with. Ever read the threads where a parent takes their kid out of line to use the bathroom. There are tons of folks that think it is terrible and call it line cutting. Parade seat saving? Don't even go there. Reusing one's mug? Right or wrong? Tipping? Yes, that is a hot topic too. I have my opinion on it and you have yours. I don't agree with not tipping the maids. You don't care what anyone does. There are folks here that will argue with you that you shouldn't tip them at all. They think they are right, so be it. I think it is wrong not to tip them and I'm not going to lie about how I feel. I don't expect or want anyone to lie about how they feel. It doesn't bother me one bit if someone disagrees with me. I don't know why it should bother anyone what I think.

Wanted to add that I never said that something bad will happen if you don't tip or anything like that. I simply said they are deserving of tips whether they are a tipped position or not.

 

[DaisyD]

double post!

 

[beattyfamily]

Thats all fine & great, but again, you are creating these "rules" here, NOT the corporation, so expect that many people are going to disagree with you.

About 25% disagree with her, at least here on the DIS. Which means about 75% agree.

I never get why these threads turn into arguements. You either tip or you don't tip. Why not just answer the question. There is no right or wrong answer.

 

[perla75]

About 25% disagree with her, at least here on the DIS. Which means about 75% agree.

I never get why these threads turn into arguements. You either tip or you don't tip. Why not just answer the question. There is no right or wrong answer.

So than again, my question to you-how much $$ do you tip the park janitors?

Or please explain to me why it's wrong to deny tip to a housekeeper, but it's NOT wrong to deny tip to the park janitor? I'm not understanding your rationale in choosing one over the other.

 

[goofy4tink]

Housekeeping is a tipped position at every other hotel except WDW. The managers at the WDW resorts I have stayed said indeed the mousekeepers are allowed to keep their tips. I tip because I believe they are DESERVING of it. Not because they expect it. Not because it makes me feel better. Not because it is or isn't a tipped position. It is because they do a very dirty and difficult job and they DESERVE the extra money. Making $12 a hour to clean up after people and the demands of some of the most obnoxius people is worthy of a tip. After reading the whining that goes on at this board about not getting this, demanding this, complaining about that, they deserve higher pay.

I also will stick with my, if you can't afford to tip, wait to you can philosophy. Honestly if you are going on a vacation you can barely afford, your words not mine, I would be rethinking the vacation, tipping aside. I know I could not enjoy myself knowing I can't afford it.

I don't need anyone telling me something isn't a tipped position. If someone wants to rely on that and not tip based on actually deserving something extra so be it. I would never base my tip on what their hourly wage is anyway. If you are deserving of a show of appreciation for a difficult job well done, what does what your hourly wage have to do with it. Not anymore deserving of it? Oh sorry, you make this much, I'm not going to show my appreciation to you. Sorry. I don't do that. I love to tip those that I feel deserve the extra for doing a hard job well.

I know everyone has different standards of tipping but I don't have to think it is right when someone doesn't tip.

Being allowed to keep tips and it being a tippable position are two completely different things. According to Disney, housekeeping is not considered a tippable position...that is according to Disney, not a resort manager. However, housekeepers are allowed to recieve tips, if the guest so chooses. What that says to me is that I don't have to feel cheap if I decided not to tip. I would feel that way if I stiffed my server in a restaurant though...that is a tippable position and they are paid accordingly.
You say that these housekeepers make a very small pay amount..and that because of all the 'dirty' work they do, they should be getting tipped. Well...as I said, my dd, 32, gets that same pay, and works with young children. She does scrub toilets and sinks, as well as cleaning up children who have soiled themselves...in one of many ways!!! She went into that job knowing full well what the pay was and what the conditions would be. Same with housekeeping...they all know what they are going to be paid and they fully understand the working conditions and the job description.

So....just because someone chooses to not tip does not mean that they are 1. cheap, 2. don't know any better 3. don't realize what housekeeping does.
It simply means that they don't feel the need to tip...for whatever reason. There really is no need to try to make others feel badly about their choices.

Believe me...I've seen lots of CMs who are truly deserving of a tip or at least some sort of recognition after dealing with something (or someone) unpleasant. I've seen the way some of those public restrooms are left...those restroom custodians deserve something extra....at least more than the thank-you I give them when I run into them in the restrooms. And I do run into them frequently. It's because of piggy guests that the custodians can't keep up. There are only so many CMs cleaning those areas...if more guests treated the bathrooms the same way they treat theirs at home, perhaps the bathrooms would remain neat and clean.

So..if you feel that your housekeeper is deserving of being tipped on any given day, fine, go ahead and tip them. If you don't feel so inclined, then don't. Your daily service should not suffer for the lack of a tip...if it did, then I would be calling Housekeeping myself, as well as the resort manager.

 

[declansdad]

So than again, my question to you-how much $$ do you tip the park janitors?

Or please explain to me why it's wrong to deny tip to a housekeeper, but it's NOT wrong to deny tip to the park janitor? I'm not understanding your rationale in choosing one over the other.

I'll try to offer an explanation.

The mousekeepers clean your room, so they are providing a personal service. The park janitor is cleaning an area fequented by everyone, so it is more of a general service and not one that is performed for you personally.

I don't think it is wrong not to tip mousekeepers, I think all tipping is a personal decisions and everyone has there own reasons for tipping or not.

 

[dbriggsq]

I think it is wrong not to tip them and I'm not going to lie about how I feel. I don't expect or want anyone to lie about how they feel. It doesn't bother me one bit if someone disagrees with me. I don't know why it should bother anyone what I think.

That's absolutely fine to express your opinion that you feel it's wrong not to tip them - that is what a discussion should be about - giving opinions and backing them up with reasoned arguements. But please be careful not to say that it IS wrong (not to tip), which can sometimes come over in posts - and of course from that follows on the 'I am right, you are wrong' bickering which doesn't help anyone.

I would love to see a reasoned, intellectual discussion on the topic of tipping as a whole but sadly I'm not sure it would ever be possible.

 

[Tinkergirl]

We tip $3 a day b/c there is three of us... But embarassingly enough, I don't usually tip when I go to other hotels. I do feel bad about that and am going to change!! I would NOT want their job and to be honest, I'm a slob.

 

[beattyfamily]

So than again, my question to you-how much $$ do you tip the park janitors?

Or please explain to me why it's wrong to deny tip to a housekeeper, but it's NOT wrong to deny tip to the park janitor? I'm not understanding your rationale in choosing one over the other.

No need to be snarky.

I tip housekeeping (everywhere I go) because it is traditionally a tipped position. Do a google search and you'll see. So I choose to tip at WDW as well since it is a service that is traditionally tipped. I don't care if they are not listed as a position to tip on a Disney brochure. I choose to tip them. They do a service that is specifically for me, they take care of my room.

The janitor is not a tradionally tipped position and also he is not doing a service that is specifically for me (in my hotel room).

That is why. You don't agree? That's just fine.

 

[DaisyD]

So than again, my question to you-how much $$ do you tip the park janitors?

Or please explain to me why it's wrong to deny tip to a housekeeper, but it's NOT wrong to deny tip to the park janitor? I'm not understanding your rationale in choosing one over the other.

Again, why do you need a reason why some are tipped and some not? It is like you are trying to feel better about not tipping. If you don't want to tip then don't. I don't have to agree with you or even think it's right. You don't have to agree with anyone that tips housekeeping and no one else not in a tipped position. Really, who cares what you think or anyone else. No one is going to change there mind over someone's opinion and that's ok too.

 

[DaisyD]

That's absolutely fine to express your opinion that you feel it's wrong not to tip them - that is what a discussion should be about - giving opinions and backing them up with reasoned arguements. But please be careful not to say that it IS wrong (not to tip), which can sometimes come over in posts - and of course from that follows on the 'I am right, you are wrong' bickering which doesn't help anyone.

I would love to see a reasoned, intellectual discussion on the topic of tipping as a whole but sadly I'm not sure it would ever be possible.

I've said why I tip maids and restroom attendants I see working hard. I feel they are underpaid and deserve a show of appreciation. Since they don't make a lot of money I feel that appreciation is shown better in cold hard cash.

 

[goofy4tink]

We tip $3 a day b/c there is three of us... But embarassingly enough, I don't usually tip when I go to other hotels. I do feel bad about that and am going to change!! I would NOT want their job and to be honest, I'm a slob.

I tip elsewhere as well. Housekeeping is housekeeping..no matter where they are.

No need to be snarky.

I tip housekeeping (everywhere I go) because it is traditionally a tipped position. Do a google search and you'll see. So I choose to tip at WDW as well since it is a service that is traditionally tipped. I don't care if they are not listed as a position to tip on a Disney brochure. I choose to tip them. They do a service that is specifically for me, they take care of my room.

The janitor is not a tradionally tipped position and also he is not doing a service that is specifically for me (in my hotel room).

That is why. You don't agree? That's just fine.

I have to say that there are times that I directly benefit from janitorial/custodial work. I've seen a stall that looked like someone had exploded in there. It boggled my mind that someone left it like that...it was completely unusable. As I walked into that restroom there was a custodian in there, and she grabbed me and told me..."Oh honey, don't be going into that stall....no need for you to see that." Of course, I did see it as I passed by. Just mind boggling to me. Now, did I tip that woman? No, of course not. But, I did sincerely thank her, and thanked her for all the hard work she does on our behalf. She actually seemed to be quite taken aback by my statement.

 

[perla75]

No need to be snarky.

I tip housekeeping (everywhere I go) because it is traditionally a tipped position. Do a google search and you'll see. So I choose to tip at WDW as well since it is a service that is traditionally tipped. I don't care if they are not listed as a position to tip on a Disney brochure. I choose to tip them. They do a service that is specifically for me, they take care of my room.

The janitor is not a tradionally tipped position and also he is not doing a service that is specifically for me (in my hotel room).

That is why. You don't agree? That's just fine.

Right you CHOOSE. I respect your CHOICE. In return, you should respect the CHOICE of others. **What I don't agree with is the judgment passed on others**

You saying someone is bad for not tipping a housekeeper is no different than me saying you are bad for not tipping a park janitor. You are trying to formulate your own definition of what is right & wrong.

BTW, I did a search for housekeeping jobs in major non WDW hotels-Holiday Inn, Marriot, Hilton-could not seem to find a housekeeping job that does not pay an hourly wage that was a minimum of minimum wage...

 

[perla75]

I tip elsewhere as well. Housekeeping is housekeeping..no matter where they are.


I have to say that there are times that I directly benefit from janitorial/custodial work. I've seen a stall that looked like someone had exploded in there. It boggled my mind that someone left it like that...it was completely unusable. As I walked into that restroom there was a custodian in there, and she grabbed me and told me..."Oh honey, don't be going into that stall....no need for you to see that." Of course, I did see it as I passed by. Just mind boggling to me. Now, did I tip that woman? No, of course not. But, I did sincerely thank her, and thanked her for all the hard work she does on our behalf. She actually seemed to be quite taken aback by my statement.

Yes! This is exactly why I choose to send letters to WDW when I come home to give recognition to those workers who made my trip extra special (a clean toilet in a WDW park=extra special in my book!) I know I cannot afford to tip all of them, NOR SHOULD I BE EXPECTED TO, but thank you's are free so I always keep a little notebook with me and jot down names of CM's who treated me well or did something well. According to CM's on here, those thank you emails really do go a long way!!

 

[Disneynutbsv]

I always tip. I used to work in the Housekeeping dept at a few hotels, and I always appreciated a tip

I tip $1 per person, per day. And I tip per day because sometimes you get a different housekeeper.

 

[beattyfamily]

Right you CHOOSE. I respect your CHOICE. In return, you should respect the CHOICE of others. **What I don't agree with is the judgment passed on others**

You saying someone is bad for not tipping a housekeeper is no different than me saying you are bad for not tipping a park janitor. You are trying to formulate your own definition of what is right & wrong.

BTW, I did a search for housekeeping jobs in major non WDW hotels-Holiday Inn, Marriot, Hilton-could not seem to find a housekeeping job that does not pay an hourly wage that was a minimum of minimum wage...

Huh? Can you please quote me where I "didn't respect the choice of others" or where I said "someone is bad for not tipping a housekeeper"? Where was I trying to "formulate my own definition of what is right and wrong"? I'm sincerely confused? Maybe you have me confused with someone else? Please show me where I said all of that.

Do a search on "tipping etiquette" and you'll see it certainly is traditionally a tipped position.

With a quick search, HERE's one website but there are many more.

 

[dbriggsq]

I've said why I tip maids and restroom attendants I see working hard. I feel they are underpaid and deserve a show of appreciation. Since they don't make a lot of money I feel that appreciation is shown better in cold hard cash.

What I was trying to say, probably not very well, is that there is a difference between saying 'I THINK it's wrong not to tip' which is your opinion and 'It IS wrong not to tip' which is a judgement - even if those words are not actually used that is sometimes the sense that comes across.

I'm still not sure from your arguement why housekeepers deserve tips and everyone else (except restroom attendants) don't - they all earn the same hourly rate and they all work hard to make guest's experience a pleasant one.

The personal service aspect is interesting - been thinking about that and why it is not seen as traditional to tip - say - nurses, who provide the most personal service. Yes we give them gifts at the end of a stay - but then usually to the nursing team as a whole. But would we think about giving them money? Certainly in the UK they are very poorly paid. Perhaps it's because we see them as professionals and therefore would be embarrassed to give money to someone we see as equal to or superior to ourselves. I certainly feel as though I'm being condescending when I press money into someone else's hand - as though I'm demeaning them in some way.

 

[DaisyD]

Well, if I think it is wrong not to tip the it is the same as I think it IS wrong not to tip. LOL! If one thinks it's wrong to reuse a mug, to them it is wrong to use that mug. To me it's the same thing. Do I think someone that doesn't tip is some evil person that will surely go to hell? Of course not. I just feel they are a little misguided. LOL!

As far as tipping nurses and such I have a neighbor who is a nurse. She is allowed to keep gifts but will lose her job is she accepts cash from anyone.

 

[jeanylaser]

I always tip for mousekeeping!

 

[dbriggsq]

Well, if I think it is wrong not to tip the it is the same as I think it IS wrong not to tip. LOL! If one thinks it's wrong to reuse a mug, to them it is wrong to use that mug. To me it's the same thing. Do I think someone that doesn't tip is some evil person that will surely go to hell? Of course not. I just feel they are a little misguided. LOL!

As far as tipping nurses and such I have a neighbor who is a nurse. She is allowed to keep gifts but will lose her job is she accepts cash from anyone.

Sorry - not made it clear again! When you say ' I think it's wrong not to tip' that is your opinion which is fine - if everyone gives their opinions we can have a discussion. But if you say 'It is wrong not to tip' that is a statement of fact and you are saying that everyone who chooses not to tip is wrong - which is a different thing.