Do you tip for take out?

Nope. Restaurants have always been required to make-up the difference to ensure each employee is getting at least minimum wage.
 
Nope. Restaurants have always been required to make-up the difference to ensure each employee is getting at least minimum wage.
Wow! That is good to know. To hear the employee talk without tips they are only getting $2+ an hour, when they are getting an average of minimum wage. Hmm now that's a horse of a different color.
 
Yes I do, somebody had to pull the order together, make sure everything was correct and add all the silverware, condiments, etc. This is ususally a bartender or server that is pulled away from other customers to handle it. Some places have a dedicated "take out" server but I guarantee you in the US they aren't making minimum wage.

I live in the US, and I can guarantee you that they ARE making minimum wage in my state! There is no "lower than minimum wage for tipped employees" here.

It should be noted that all restaurant servers in the United States make at least minimum wage. If their tips don't amount to that much, their employer is required to make-up the difference. So all that is going on, in the case of restaurants, is leaving open the channel for patrons to contribute a share of the cost of service, the amount of their contribution subject to their discretion.

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Delivery and sit down table as long as the sevice is good we tip and we tip fairly well pick-up I might if my order is large or I get a very friendly server or cashier.
I always tip at buffets after helping my friend out at her restaurant and finding out what a buffet server actually does at least where I was.

We were in charge of ordering food for the buffet making sure it was clean and stayed full. Which was a pretty big task.
We got patrons drinks + refills picked up many more plates then when I worked non-buffet
We still had to clean and set the table etc....
That being said I never gave my tipping customers better service than my non-tipping costumers.
Although I do remember fighting over who got to serve the better tipping tables. ( I lived in a small town we knew who tipped and who didn't)
 

I nearly always do. Most people do, I've worked in 2 restaurants where the takeout orders were almost always tipped, this was at a pizza place and a "business casual" type of restaurant. I do at Subway and Starbucks as well, btw.
 
Yes, I tip always.


The only food place I don't tip is at fast-food places, and i would there if there was a quick and fast way to do it.

I figure these people are touching my food. It's the least I can do.
 
I'm so grateful that my customers didn't feel as you do, in not tipping for buffet service. The last I read, suggested amounts for tipping was 10% for buffet, and 15 - 20% for sit down meal. The restaurant where I worked for several years has a daily buffet, but a menu as well. I would say 75% of the people get the buffet. I still brought their drinks to the table and kept them re-filled, brought them condiments and extra napkins, took away plates (sometimes many times during the meal for heavy eaters), and brought dessert if it was ordered, then gave them their bill. All the while making far less than minimum wage. Most people tipped at least the suggested 10%, but many (especially regulars) tipped well above that.

Tips are how I earned my living. My "paycheck" every two weeks barely covered taxes. And "contacting the supervisor to praise the employee" doesn't pay the bills, and I sure don't agree that "job security is worth more than a couple of $ in the pocket." If people are like you and don't tip, the server doesn't earn a living, so has to look elsewhere for a job. And yes, money is tight for many people but if you can afford to go out to eat you can afford to tip as well. If you can't afford it, go to a fast food restaurant (where they earn at least minimum wage) or cook for yourself at home.

Nice attitude. I guess one can say that if you can't afford to live off your paycheck alone then go find another line of work. Nobody forces a server to work for under minimum wage and their tips, you choose that line of work, how does that become a non-tippers problem? :confused3
 
Wow! That is good to know. To hear the employee talk without tips they are only getting $2+ an hour, when they are getting an average of minimum wage. Hmm now that's a horse of a different color.

Just to expound on this a little bit. Businesses that employ tipped staff do pay them below minimum wage (generally $2.13/hour in my area).

Businesses are only required to pay more IF the server makes less than minimum wage once you add their tips to the gross wages.

As an example- 30 hours/week at minimum wage would gross $217.50. A server, at $2.13/hour would gross $63.90. If, for the period, the server only made $150 in tips the business would owe them $3.60. The difference.

However, this isn't calculated on a weekly basis. It is for the entire length of employment.
 
It should be noted that all restaurant servers in the United States make at least minimum wage. If their tips don't amount to that much, their employer is required to make-up the difference. So all that is going on, in the case of restaurants, is leaving open the channel for patrons to contribute a share of the cost of service, the amount of their contribution subject to their discretion.

Enforcing that is the problem. My boss' husband is an accountant, they did not make up the difference for us. Ever. They said what we made on good nights made up for the bad nights. January and February were the worst months to work, because of snow and bad weather (and people paying Christmas bills). There were times we'd work a 4-hour shift and make $15.

Nice attitude. I guess one can say that if you can't afford to live off your paycheck alone then go find another line of work. Nobody forces a server to work for under minimum wage and their tips, you choose that line of work, how does that become a non-tippers problem? :confused3

If all servers "found another line of work" then what restaurants would you go to then? I can certainly understand someone not tipping when the service is terrible. But for someone to just make a blanket statement and say "I do not tip", maybe they should work awhile as a server and see how it is. Tipping has been the norm for many years, most people in this country know that and if they don't, they need to be education about it.
 
I tip at some restaurants when getting take out. Usually the ones that arent typical take out places.
 
I live in the US, and I can guarantee you that they ARE making minimum wage in my state! There is no "lower than minimum wage for tipped employees" here.



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That's great, but if you come to my state, with one of the highest COL in the nation, please tip your servers, because minimum wage is still $2.13, same as in the 1970's. I don't tip for pick up, but always tip delivery (so the person putting the order together still isn't getting tipped), buffets, and table service restaurants. I have been known to put my change in the jar at Starbucks, but they have great customer service.

ETA - the places I pick up food all offer free delivery, so the reason I pick up is to save money on the tip.
 
Nice attitude. I guess one can say that if you can't afford to live off your paycheck alone then go find another line of work.
That's a ridiculous thing to say, so no one who's informed and thinking the issue through rationally would say that. Again, in our society the cost of service at restaurants is deliberately separated into the employer's portion and the patron's portion. Eating at a restaurant in the United States incurs an obligation on the part of the patron to apply reasonable and fair discretion in determining the amount of the gratuity they will provide. I know that a lot of people would rather save themselves money and cheat the system by refusing to comply with society's standards, but that's not a defense for doing so.

Nobody forces a server to work for under minimum wage and their tips, you choose that line of work, how does that become a non-tippers problem? :confused3
Because "non-tippers" are violating society's standards for nothing but personal avarice. You cannot live in this society more than a short while without coming to understand the obligation I referred to, so a "non-tipper" is behaving transgressively if they choose to eat at a restaurant. People who don't want to tip at restaurants need only avoid eating at restaurants. Any other approach, while not strictly illegal, is a violation of society's standards and therefore worthy of as much disparagement as the MIGrandma was providing, and perhaps more.
 
However, this isn't calculated on a weekly basis. It is for the entire length of employment.
Actually in most states it's calculated per pay-period. And I believe most states prohibit pay periods for hourly workers from exceeding two weeks.

Enforcing that is the problem. My boss' husband is an accountant, they did not make up the difference for us. Ever. They said what we made on good nights made up for the bad nights.
They were correct; it isn't computed daily. See above.
 
If all servers "found another line of work" then what restaurants would you go to then? I can certainly understand someone not tipping when the service is terrible. But for someone to just make a blanket statement and say "I do not tip", maybe they should work awhile as a server and see how it is. Tipping has been the norm for many years, most people in this country know that and if they don't, they need to be education about it.

How about the server's with your attitude then. Tipping may have been the norm for many years but here's the thing you are the one that needs to be educated since you seem to think its a requirement. It isn't, its a perk you get for the service you give however the customer is under no requirement to give you anything for your service whether its outstanding or not. Maybe if more servers appreciated the fact that people are willing to tip thenm instead of expecting it because they can afford to (isn't that what you said in your pp) then you wouldn't have to deal with those who choose not to. I tip accordingly on service, but if my server demonstrated an attitude like yours, then I'd be inclined to leave nothing and not even think twice about it.
 
I always tip for take-out orders whether I pick them up or have them delivered. The server had to take the order, submit it (or punch into computer) to the kitchen, pack it, add napkins, eating utensils, and condiments, and still continue with other customers/duties.
In my state, I think tips are predicated on a set percentage based on the establishment's average gross receipts. All this usually means is that the employee doesn't usually have to declare tips since they are added into their gross wage and then deducted after taxes are taken out.
 
How about the server's with your attitude then. Tipping may have been the norm for many years but here's the thing you are the one that needs to be educated since you seem to think its a requirement. It isn't, its a perk you get for the service you give however the customer is under no requirement to give you anything for your service whether its outstanding or not. Maybe if more servers appreciated the fact that people are willing to tip thenm instead of expecting it because they can afford to (isn't that what you said in your pp) then you wouldn't have to deal with those who choose not to. I tip accordingly on service, but if my server demonstrated an attitude like yours, then I'd be inclined to leave nothing and not even think twice about it.

You might be surprised at how many servers there are who have the same attitude as I do towards tipping/not tipping. The servers I worked with felt the same. And I belong to a couple of serving message boards and most of them feel the same. Thankfully, I no longer work in the restaurant business but when DH and I go out to eat, we always leave a tip unless the service was really terrible. But as a server myself it has to be really, really, really terrible for us to not leave anything. We know that tipping is how the server makes her money. If we couldn't afford to leave a tip, we just wouldn't go out to a sit-down restaurant. It wouldn't be fair to the server.
 
Enforcing that is the problem. My boss' husband is an accountant, they did not make up the difference for us. Ever. They said what we made on good nights made up for the bad nights. January and February were the worst months to work, because of snow and bad weather (and people paying Christmas bills). There were times we'd work a 4-hour shift and make $15.



At least from a legal standpoint they are correct. As I said above, it is for the entire length of employment. As long as you are still employed there they will never have to "make up the difference" as possible future earnings could change the amount.
 
Because "non-tippers" are violating society's standards for nothing but personal avarice. You cannot live in this society more than a short while without coming to understand the obligation I referred to, so a "non-tipper" is behaving transgressively if they choose to eat at a restaurant. People who don't want to tip at restaurants need only avoid eating at restaurants. Any other approach, while not strictly illegal, is a violation of society's standards and therefore worthy of as much disparagement as the MIGrandma was providing, and perhaps more.

Okay, how about this then. I (assuming I am a non-tipper) can afford to go against societal norms and standards and be forever known as the non-tipper who chooses to eat out at restaurants, not really going to effect me in the grand scheme of things. However, the server still can't afford to pay their bills on their salary (the one they agreed to when they took the job) alone, seems pretty obvious who has the real problem.
 
When it comes down to it tipping is optional. If it wasn't then it would be automatically added to your bill, just like in cases were gratuity is added for parties over a certain amount.
 
However, this isn't calculated on a weekly basis. It is for the entire length of employment.

I dont see how that could even be true. At worst, I would say it would have to be done as of 12/31 every year for tax reasons.

I cant see someone trying to do a true-up of a waitress that worked someplace for 20+ years.
 


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