Do You think DISNEY has gone down hlll the last few years?

[DisGirl23]

Actually if you pay close atention to the picture you can see some areas of brighter blue and right next to it faded areas. Obviously it is faded.

Same goes with a lot of denim jeans you would see in a store that are brand new. Because that is the style. It may be the "woodsy" style of WL. Really, what we need is someone who has stayed at WL for years to come in and say if this is really worn out or intentional.

You said this was just last week. It would be interesting to go back today and find out if it's been repaired. I have no doubt that the resort rooms at a place like WDW to take a beating, just based on the number of people in and out each day, with luggage and toys and supply carts and whatnot that accidentally hit the walls. The measure of whether or not Disney is 'keeping up' is how long it takes things to get fixed.

I agree that this is nothing major but, definitely an eye sore. I wonder what the turnover rate is on rooms at the WL... family bangs up the wall with toys or luggage during their stay, checks out at 11, room has to be cleaned up asap for next guests. Does the next family want to hear "Room needs repair and isn't ready yet. Leave your luggage at bell service and come back." or want to see wet paint signs with their little ones running about the room?

I'm not arguing either side of this one. Just thinking aloud. Interior must be much more difficult to maintain when guests are constantly checking in and out.

 

[KellyNY]

I hope you noted it either to the front desk, Mousekeeping or even just left a note on the dresser. (I probably would have done a big red arrow with lipstick, but that's me ... ) Mousekeeping would the be ones most likely to see something like that, since they're in the rooms every day, but I'm sure they miss stuff.

You said this was just last week. It would be interesting to go back today and find out if it's been repaired. I have no doubt that the resort rooms at a place like WDW to take a beating, just based on the number of people in and out each day, with luggage and toys and supply carts and whatnot that accidentally hit the walls. The measure of whether or not Disney is 'keeping up' is how long it takes things to get fixed.

Such thing is obvious and hard to miss. The very point that they let people in with problem like this sais a lot. We are talking about Deluxe resort, not Motel6. I understand that things like remote control or light bulb may break on a spot and in this case we can measure Disney "keeping up" by how long it takes to fix the problem but paint, no, not in this category. BTW drawing something would be defacing the property, funny but bad advice.

 

[Tiger926]

We've stayed at Wilderness Villas several times, and it is in need of reburbishment due to chips, fades and stains. It does get a huge amount of wear and tear, as it's an MK resort.

It is hard to tell from a photo though, especially that type of colour variation - there are lighting issues, etc. that come from taking the photo. Those of us who have stayed there may possibly see this in person. If Brunette as a guest felt it was unacceptable to her, then she had the right to switch resorts, as she did.

I can't make any deduction from Brunette's photo, as that is how denim fabrics look. The thing is, blue is a colour that can look faded very quickly - we were just in a new and refurbished Boardwalk Villa last month, and sections of the bedspread looked faded as well, but they weren't as it's brand new.

Just trying to play devil's advocate here - sometimes it's hard with photos to see fading and such. But, I have seen some very old and tired rooms at Wilderness Lodge myself, so chances are in person, you can see the fading in the bedspread.

That being said, I feel that Wildnerness is in need of refurbishment as well, as it's starting to look old and tired. But, DVC has all of our resorts on refurbishment schedules, but not sure about cash rooms through CRO?

Lastly, I would highly encourage guests to report these problems while on vacation, or at least immediately after. I totally understand that people are busy, but it's very easy to push the Housekeeping/Maintenance button on your phone, and report the problems. They rely on guests to do this, as things get missed. For DVC, it is essential that we report, so that items can be repaired right away. With chipped paint or a something that is broken, they will repair it, but for a bedspread, they would just offer to switch it out for another, which may also be faded. This would be better suited for a letter or quick chat with resort manager about wear and tear of resorts, and ask about a refurbishment schedule in the process.

Tiger

 

[KellyNY]

Same goes with a lot of denim jeans you would see in a store that are brand new. Because that is the style. It may be the "woodsy" style of WL. Really, what we need is someone who has stayed at WL for years to come in and say if this is really worn out or intentional.

I do not know, maybe it suppose to be like that, maybe it is work of sun, depends on how it looked originally. I can definitely say that color is different but maybe you are right.

 

[WDSearcher]

We did not mention it because we're pretty sure SOMEONE knew it was there (how can you miss it?) and we had already dealt with rude front-desk staff trying to get into a room. Just not worth it to us!

If you think it's worth it, you may want to e-mail your comments about the rude front desk staff, along with the photo of the chipped paint, to Guest Communications. I'm sure they'd appreciate being able to both check the paint and make CERTAIN it was fixed as well as do a little coaching with the front desk folks who were rude.

I can understand how it wouldn't be worth it to you to take up time on your vacation to deal with it.

 

[WDSearcher]

Such thing is obvious and hard to miss. The very point that they let people in with problem like this sais a lot. We are talking about Deluxe resort, not Motel6. I understand that things like remote control or light bulb may break on a spot and in this case we can measure Disney "keeping up" by how long it takes to fix the problem but paint, no, not in this category. BTW drawing something would be defacing the property, funny but bad advice.

It's not defacing the property if the "drawing" is quite easily removed. I guess all those people who put clingy things on their windows and decorate their doors are also defacing property? Let's not LOOK for ways to argue with each other, especially when what I said was obviously a joke.

 

[spacemountainmom]

I find this to be an interesting thread. It brings up many things that I guess I just haven't noticed such as the price of turkey legs. The level of price increase is a bit shocking.

Some things are hard for me to compare as I don't have quite the level of Disney experience as some others do. We went twice in the 80's and once in the 90's and stayed off property. I do recall really awful food in the 80's and thinking it was much better in 1998.

Our first stay on property was in 2008. We stayed at POFQ and had some issues. There was a broken chair in our room when we arrived that was reported immediately. It remained that way for the duration of our stay. My sister and her family requested a porta-crib for my niece several times and never did get it. I did mention both of these items on my post-trip survey, but did not get any type of response from Disney. Were these issues slightly annoying? Yes. Did it ruin my vacation? No. Will/have I go/gone back? Yes in 2009, 2010 and wil go again in 2011.

The food thing is not that big of a deal to me. I remember the 80's when any counter service food was barely edible. We tend to be more of a counter service family these days. My family feels like a sit down meal really cuts into ride time. The few TS places we have gone to, we really have enjoyed. The exceptions would be Boatwright's at POR and Cap'n Jack in DTD. We've had some wonderful meals at Ohana, Biergarten, Tusker House, 50's Primetime, and Le Cellier.

Are there things that could be better about Disney? Certainly. Do I still enjoy my vacation and have a mostly "magical" time? Yes.

 

[KellyNY]

It's not defacing the property if the "drawing" is quite easily removed. I guess all those people who put clingy things on their windows and decorate their doors are also defacing property? Let's not LOOK for ways to argue with each other, especially when what I said was obviously a joke.

I think I pointed that it was funny so I am sorry if you feel that I try to argue about lipstick, we have other more important points of disagreement.

 

[W.E.D.]

For anyone new to this thread, before you even post, let me inform you that bicker says you are wrong.

 

[brunette8706]

Not really Kelly. My jeans are faded denim and the front of the leg is lighter than the sides, have been since they day I bought them. The faded denim look is not a constant color, but more of a light/dark variation throughout the fabric that is intentional. The bedding looks good to me.

There are other instances where I have seen some problems in my recent visits, but nothing major and always fixed when I tell the staff.

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Okay just got back from a meeting and read some posts. The bedding is faded, it's old and just plain tired (yawn). I do a lot of interior decorating so I know exactly what I am talking about. As you can see the seam, of the top of the bedskirt at the foot of the bed should have been tucked under the mattress so it looks uniform and "NEAT". The skirt was way too long and just lumped together. It looked awful, but maybe it was just our room. Now the second photo of the YC bedding was a BIG CONTRAST. You can see the pictures of the YC on the Yacht Club resort thread, I just posted them today. I have no idea what happened to the photo here. In any case, it is crisp, clean and just very beautiful, looks brand new!. Now I know it's a nautical theme over there. But the comforter at the YC is a solid white with a navy bedskirt. This gives it a very crisp and refreshing, look, as I said earlier it looks BRAND NEW. The WL accommodations were an eyesore! If they would have fixed the chips on the headboard (which I thought was cool) and made the bedspread more of a crisp solid color such as deep hunter green, deep blue or even a deep wine color it would look 100 percent better, still staying with the woodsy theme. Now, this is NOT about a WL bashfest, because the WL in my opinion was GORGEOUS! The architecture, lobby, pool, landscaping, theming were just serene, and stunning. They just need to rehab their accommodations in my opinion. Thanks! Brunette

 

[brunette8706]

Not really Kelly. My jeans are faded denim and the front of the leg is lighter than the sides, have been since they day I bought them. The faded denim look is not a constant color, but more of a light/dark variation throughout the fabric that is intentional. The bedding looks good to me.

There are other instances where I have seen some problems in my recent visits, but nothing major and always fixed when I tell the staff.

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Okay just got back from a meeting and read some posts. The bedding is faded, it's old and just plain tired (yawn). I do a lot of interior decorating so I know exactly what I am talking about. As you can see the seam, of the top of the bedskirt at the foot of the bed should have been tucked under the mattress so it looks uniform and "NEAT". The skirt was way too long and just lumped together. It looked awful, but maybe it was just our room. Now the second photo of the YC bedding was a BIG CONTRAST. You can see the pictures of the YC on the Yacht Club resort thread, I just posted them today. I have no idea what happened to the photo here. In any case, it is crisp, clean and just very beautiful, looks brand new!. Now I know it's a nautical theme over there. But the comforter at the YC is a solid white with a navy bedskirt. This gives it a very crisp and refreshing, look, as I said earlier it looks BRAND NEW. The WL accommodations were an eyesore! If they would have fixed the chips on the headboard (which I thought was cool) and made the bedspread more of a crisp solid color such as deep hunter green, deep blue or even a deep wine color it would look 100 percent better, still staying with the woodsy theme. Now, this is NOT about a WL bashfest, because the WL in my opinion is GORGEOUS! The architecture, lobby, pool, landscaping, theming were just serene, and stunning. They just need to rehab their accommodations in my opinion. Thanks! Brunette

 

[brunette8706]

The letter constantly says "whom" when it should say "who". That is what I meant.

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Hi okay! I was just taken back by your comments, a bit. Pirate Jeff is just writing a note for all of us to critque. I don't think it was a need to get snarky about it. Frankly I wish I could write as well as Tiger and Pirate Jeff, but I'm far from an English Major! LOL!

Brunette

 

[brunette8706]

Same goes with a lot of denim jeans you would see in a store that are brand new. Because that is the style. It may be the "woodsy" style of WL. Really, what we need is someone who has stayed at WL for years to come in and say if this is really worn out or intentional.


I agree that this is nothing major but, definitely an eye sore. I wonder what the turnover rate is on rooms at the WL... family bangs up the wall with toys or luggage during their stay, checks out at 11, room has to be cleaned up asap for next guests. Does the next family want to hear "Room needs repair and isn't ready yet. Leave your luggage at bell service and come back." or want to see wet paint signs with their little ones running about the room?

I'm not arguing either side of this one. Just thinking aloud. Interior must be much more difficult to maintain when guests are constantly checking in and out.

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No, it is NOT the style. I don't need to visit the WL for years to tell you that our room are worn out. It was so worn that mousekeeping didn't even bother to freshen it up or fix the bedskirt up under the mattress so it is even all the way around. The room was "OLD", "TIRED", "OUTDATED". I gave the WL an unbiased opinon also, as per my last post.

Also, if anyone is interested, go on to the official Walt Disney World link click on Wilderness Lodge, and click on "ROOMS". Our room did NOT look like what is pictured. What is pictured is a nice, neat room with neat bedding with a NAVY BLUE (dark blue) bedskirt. A bed skirt that is NOT faded, but crisp and pretty. Big contrast.

Here is the Walt Disney World link: http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/resorts/wilderness-lodge-resort/rates-rooms/

 

[kwitcherkicken99]

Actually if you pay close atention to the picture you can see some areas of brighter blue and right next to it faded areas. Obviously it is faded.

It's not faded... the lighter and darker spots are actually shadows from the folds of the bedspread hitting the floor. If you look carefully, the darker spots all have a fold, divet, bend, etc. The lighter sections are catching the full force of the camera's flash.

FWIW, camera's aren't always the best recorders of fabric. For example, brown polyester anything from the '70s-80s reflected this crazy light when photographed. Still today there are some fabrics that reflect funny when photographed. So take it however you wish.

WL is supposed to be rustic. Yacht Club is more uptight and "citified". I would half expect denim of any shade at YC.

 

[brunette8706]

It's not faded... the lighter and darker spots are actually shadows from the folds of the bedspread hitting the floor. If you look carefully, the darker spots all have a fold, divet, bend, etc. The lighter sections are catching the full force of the camera's flash.

FWIW, camera's aren't always the best recorders of fabric. For example, brown polyester anything from the '70s-80s reflected this crazy light when photographed. Still today there are some fabrics that reflect funny when photographed. So take it however you wish.

WL is supposed to be rustic. Yacht Club is more uptight and "citified". I would half expect denim of any shade at YC.

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It is faded. Like I said check out what the room is supposed to look like on the official Walt Disney World website. I posted the link above.

 

[brunette8706]

It's not faded... the lighter and darker spots are actually shadows from the folds of the bedspread hitting the floor. If you look carefully, the darker spots all have a fold, divet, bend, etc. The lighter sections are catching the full force of the camera's flash.

FWIW, camera's aren't always the best recorders of fabric. For example, brown polyester anything from the '70s-80s reflected this crazy light when photographed. Still today there are some fabrics that reflect funny when photographed. So take it however you wish.

WL is supposed to be rustic. Yacht Club is more uptight and "citified". I would half expect denim of any shade at YC.[/QUOTE]

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YC was far from uptight. No need to get snarky about my "FACTUAL" comments. Is that how you try to refute what I'm saying, by telling me that the YC is "uptight"!? Too funny.

 

[kwitcherkicken99]

I was just about to respond to your post. The images Disney has used for promotional purposes were A) shot from a distance and B) utilized natural light (that falls off the further it gets from the original light source.

The example photo was taken with a flash no less than 5 feet away, any amount of change in light to that magnitude will throw off the colors of anything.

Same reason why when it's darker in the day and you are far away from your subject and take a picture with a flash and it turns out dark, it's because the light of the flash cannot travel that far before the exposure was complete. If you moved up several feet and tried again, the subject would be much lighter. Step a little closer and the subject would be too light.

You can see it however you like, and there's no need to get snarky with me. My response was to Kelly's post, not yours - there's no need to get so hot over a bedskirt. I was purely using it as a reference point between the two styles of resorts. I would classify GF, BC, and CR the same way - they are uptight compared to the relaxed atmosphere of cabins and woods.

I'm a professional photographer and have spent MANY years studying how different forms of light affect a subject. I doubt I will sway your opinion in anyway, but that's just how it is with fabric, a flash, and natural light. They burn at different degrees of temperature Kelvin and such are translated differently when captured photographically.

 

[brunette8706]

I was just about to respond to your post. The images Disney has used for promotional purposes were A) shot from a distance and B) utilized natural light (that falls off the further it gets from the original light source.

The example photo was taken with a flash no less than 5 feet away, any amount of change in light to that magnitude will throw off the colors of anything.

Same reason why when it's darker in the day and you are far away from your subject and take a picture with a flash and it turns out dark, it's because the light of the flash cannot travel that far before the exposure was complete. If you moved up several feet and tried again, the subject would be much lighter. Step a little closer and the subject would be too light.

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sigh. For the umpteenth time, it was faded and I did NOT have a flash on my camera when taking the picture. Our room did not look one thing what was pictured on the Disney website. That is why I took the picture, because it was so "FADED", and "WORN" and frankly "TIRED" looking. I was there, I know what it looked like. I do interior design, so I know what I'm talking about and that is why I wanted to take the picture. I refuse to argue with you about this subject, since YOU were NOT there. Thanks! Brunette

 

[ThePetLady7]

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No, it is NOT the style. I don't need to visit the WL for years to tell you that our room are worn out. It was so worn that mousekeeping didn't even bother to freshen it up or fix the bedskirt up under the mattress so it is even all the way around. The room was "OLD", "TIRED", "OUTDATED". I gave the WL an unbiased opinon also, as per my last post.

Also, if anyone is interested, go on to the official Walt Disney World link click on Wilderness Lodge, and click on "ROOMS". Our room did NOT look like what is pictured. What is pictured is a nice, neat room with neat bedding with a NAVY BLUE (dark blue) bedskirt. A bed skirt that is NOT faded, but crisp and pretty. Big contrast.

Here is the Walt Disney World link: http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/resorts/wilderness-lodge-resort/rates-rooms/

Granted, the bedskirt did need to be adjusted, recentered. But its kind of funny to me that even in the picture you linked, it is still a little bunched up on the floor, and not the least bit "crisp." It also isn't navy, never was navy. And lighting makes all the difference in the world.

 

[kwitcherkicken99]

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sigh. For the umpteenth time, it was faded and I did NOT have a flash on my camera when taking the picture. Our room did not look one thing what was pictured on the Disney website. That is why I took the picture, because it was so "FADED", and "WORN" and frankly "TIRED" looking. I was there, I know what it looked like. I do interior design, so I know what I'm talking about and that is why I wanted to take the picture. I'm refuse to argue with you about this subject, since YOU were NOT there. Thanks! Brunette

Ugh... had something to post but it's not worth arguing with you about it - I'm trying to respond in a manner that is not rude, and I get yelled at. I keep forgetting why I post in the theme parks forum - too much rudeness around here.