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[Mercy]

I don'y have a problem with the game/exchange/clique threads existing - it's more that I wish they had their own board. Oftentimes it's hard to find the, uh, regular threads among all the other stuff - usually those threads are at least half, sometimes 3/4s of the first page. It's not a matter of not clicking on them - there's just so many that other posts get lost very quickly.

I understand that it's a community and all are welcome to post -- but in real life, when cliques dominate an area/activity, I quickly lose interest in going there.

ITA

 

[Saffron]

There's a fourth choice to your "solutions", Duckfan.
4.) Constructively talk about things.

It's the CB, anyone can discuss anything the powers-that-be allow, right? Now people are discussing what bugs them about the CB. They don't have to do any of the things you suggested.

Your phrase for the day is Passive-aggressive. Passive-aggressive behavior refers to passive, sometimes obstructionist resistance to authoritative instructions in interpersonal or occupational situations. Sometimes a method of dealing with stress or frustration, it results in the person attacking other people in subtle, indirect, and seemingly passive ways.

Just like your post here, and many, if not all, of your other posts when they have anything to do with Dan or other members you disagree with. Passive aggressive behavior doesn't belong to any one particular member of these boards, that's for sure!

 

[Laura]

I don'y have a problem with the game/exchange/clique threads existing - it's more that I wish they had their own board. Oftentimes it's hard to find the, uh, regular threads among all the other stuff - usually those threads are at least half, sometimes 3/4s of the first page. It's not a matter of not clicking on them - there's just so many that other posts get lost very quickly.

I understand that it's a community and all are welcome to post -- but in real life, when cliques dominate an area/activity, I quickly lose interest in going there.

Exactly.

We got a Katrina board last year because all those threads were cluttering the CB, there are dining plan and dining reviews boards now to help the dining board, and I think similarly the games and cliques need their own board. It's called organization.

Heck, I'm all for change. The DIS was just one board when I first started posting. Now it has many boards for different topics. But when many Community Board posters are clamoring for another change, to help their enjoyment of the CB while not trespassing on others' threads, apparently it's ignored. And that's too bad.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

There's a fourth choice to your "solutions", Duckfan.
4.) Constructively talk about things.

It's the CB, anyone can discuss anything the powers-that-be allow, right? Now people are discussing what bugs them about the CB. They don't have to do any of the things you suggested.



Just like your post here, and many, if not all, of your other posts when they have anything to do with Dan or other members you disagree with. Passive aggressive behavior doesn't belong to any one particular member of these boards, that's for sure!

Okie Dokie...the amazing thing about the DIS is that there is a backlog of info on here. You put your people on pulling up my passive-aggressive posts and I'll have my people look up posts where they were indirectly attacked by other nice people from Chicago.

Do you think it's constructive to mock everyone that posts on the games threads here?

 

[LoraJ]

I am in support of a seperate board for games/exchangees/cliques etc.

 

[tmt martins]

I think as Dan is the MAN when it comes to computer help ,Pic resizing and general info .

He became fustrated as most as the SERVER TO BUSY messages .

And yes you don't have to click on the drivel post but they cause problems in tying up the servers.

I hope thats it and people will relise that this is what is happening and if bored instead of posting for no reason then go to some other board groups and maybe read them.

This is just IMHO but it's how I'm reading into the entire thing.

 

[Laura]

There's lots of little cliques and cute little threads about missing someone and personal chit chats which I recall used to not even be allowed.

Yeah, I remember that. We were not supposed to post personal messages to each on the boards. Why? Because it would clutter them up. So, if they're allowed now, they need their own board. I don't know why that's so hard for the "DIS powers that be" to create. It's been suggested more than once.

 

[Ub_Iwerks]

In a nutshell, the cool people have stopped posting on this board much. There are very few insightful, thoughtful posts anymore.

 

[WebmasterAlex]

I think we need to define terms. When Obi-wan pinobi posted (and I agreed) there have been no changes in a long time we were refereing to systemic changes made by us. Nothing that we do systemically with the CB has changed in several years. The debate board closed in May of 2004.
The last changes to how we run the CB were made in 2003.

Has the mood and attitude changed on the CB? That is a different question. As long as it is within the guidelines we don't and can't control what people post. Some of this is just the numbers. We are a far larger board then we were in 2004 and size brings it's own problems.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

In a nutshell, the cool people have stopped posting on this board much. There are very few insightful, thoughtful posts anymore.

You have 163 posts?

I'm sure a lot of the change comes with the volume of people now posting on the DIS. Just like there are difference between driving in a little town a a medium city, there are differences between posting in a smaller forum vs a large forum. I don't like the nastiness and snipes. Everything doesn't have to be sweetness, however, we shouldn't engage in personal attacks and that includes the passive/aggressive kind.

I would like the games and exchanges to be in a separate area, but that's been suggested many times, so I'm assuming there are reasons why it hasn't happened. The Community forum is supposed to be an area to have discussions about a wide variety of topics, so I think the rest should stay. Learn to skim over posts--that's what I do.

 

[phorsenuf]

I think we need to define terms. When Obi-wan pinobi posted (and I agreed) there have been no changes in a long time we were refereing to systemic changes made by us. Nothing that we do systemically with the CB has changed in several years. The debate board closed in May of 2004.
The last changes to how we run the CB were made in 2003.

Has the mood and attitude changed on the CB? That is a different question. As long as it is within the guidelines we don't and can't control what people post. Some of this is just the numbers. We are a far larger board then we were in 2004 and size brings it's own problems.

Well, if there are problems shouldn't they be addressed. I agree the tone of the CB is so different now. The games, the cliques, the bars, the inside jokes taking over threads. If someone has a legit question it gets buried so fast you get no replies. I remember you used to be able to come on here ask a question and within seconds have answers. Not anymore. You are either ignored if you aren't in a clique or pushed down off the page. The fun friendly atmosphere of this place has slowly been slipping away for some time now. There have been many requests for a sub-board for the game and clique threads. I don't see why we can't have one when so many people are expressing their frustration and ultimately leaving the board. I really find it sad that so many people are essientially being run-off. I hope it changes for the better because truthfully the CB is just a shell of it's former self.

 

[nuke]

Okie Dokie...the amazing thing about the DIS is that there is a backlog of info on here. You put your people on pulling up my passive-aggressive posts and I'll have my people look up posts where they were indirectly attacked by other nice people from Chicago.

Do you think it's constructive to mock everyone that posts on the games threads here?

Why would anyone want to pull up old posts? That's pretty childish isn't it.

Do you think it's constructive to mock a person that has done nothing but try to be nice to others?

I guess you do.

 

[NewJersey]

Well, hmm, I'm pretty new here, but I must agree with the others about all those games threads. I don't partake but to each their own. However, it's pretty annoying when the first page is dominated by them. Either have a seperate forum for games, or go to Yahoo people.

I don't know what the tone of the board was like before the Debate board was closed, but I find it pretty illogical to say the tone of the CB has gone downhill since all those "rude, nasty, in your face people from the DB have come over here." The title of the thread says something like "Bush ruled against by the SC" or "Speech cut short because of reference to God." Now if you can tell me how on the surface of the page, it makes the tone of the board nasty, I'll listen. But no one forces you to click on that and partake in the debate.

It really makes me laugh the level of complaint people have. Instead of complaining go back to counting down the number of times you can change around a letter, to make your pointless post count go up.

 

[monkeyboy]

We are a far larger board then we were in 2004 and size brings it's own problems.

yep .so true

 

[nuke]

You have 163 posts?

You have 14,600+ posts which is pretty confusing also.
WHat is your point? Everyone is welcome to post on the CB no matter what their post count is.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

Why would anyone want to pull up old posts? That's pretty childish isn't it.

Do you think it's constructive to mock a person that has done nothing but try to be nice to others?

I guess you do.

I don't know what that has to do with this conversation? We're talking about someone who made posts that mocked what I would imagine to be a good percentage of the CB since these are the threads that are more often than not on the first page. I don't think it's just me, because I've gotten a few PMs of support from game players and others who don't like to get into debates and don't like to be dragged into this fighting when they did nothing against any rules.

And I wasn't the one that mentioned the old posts, so I guess the first one that did was pretty childish too, or is it just when they don't support your position?

 

[Saffron]

Okie Dokie...the amazing thing about the DIS is that there is a backlog of info on here. You put your people on pulling up my passive-aggressive posts and I'll have my people look up posts where they were indirectly attacked by other nice people from Chicago.

Do you think it's constructive to mock everyone that posts on the games threads here?

I'll get right on pulling up those old posts!

Where is anyone mocking "everyone" that posts on game threads? Suggesting the game threads be moved, posting an opinion that the game threads litter up the board or posting a bunch of inane posts that look like game threads is hardly mocking anyone, let alone everyone. We're talking about threads here, not people. Making an opinion known about a subject doesn't mean you mock everyone who happens to post on any particular thread.

Mocking someone would be like changing letters in someone's user name then making inane posts that belittle the person. That's personal. That's about a person, not a thing. That would be mocking someone passive aggressively.

Tigger&Belle ... you post passive aggressive stuff all the time! When you hijack a thread for your own entertainment ... passive aggressive. When you tell people they should take a nap ... passive aggressive. When you talk about other members on a "clique" thread as if the other members don't matter .... passive aggressive. When you use code words for other members on clique threads, like Wune ... passive aggressive. Even saying to someone "You have 163 posts" " ... is passive aggressive. Etc. Etc. Like I said before, Dan doesn't have the market to himself when it comes to passive aggressive behavior.

Maybe that's it in a nutshell. The entire CB has become passive aggressive.

 

[N.Bailey]

Wow, I've been away for the most part the last week or so, bumping in a time or two in between. The Andrea Yates retrial has started, and well..... So, I'm not really sure of what's going on here.

Anyway, I am shocked to hear so many people saying things have changed so drastically around here. For years, I never even visited the CB on the DIS and I can recall time after time how posters would come over to the restaurant board, the resort board, and a few others stating they didn't feel welcome here. I ignored the posts for the most part, but it seems that to some, things were the same back then as they are today.

I would personally LOVE to see a game board, but if it doesn't happen, it's not the end of the world. I can bypass those threads and click the bottom of the page to load the next one, and the one after that, then the one after that if I'm so inclined. I certainly don't wish to take that enjoyment away from those who come to the board to play them.

Oh well, my $0.02; which isn't even worth that much, anyway.

 

[MELSMICE]

I'll jump on board with wanting a new games/exchanges forum.

I can't stand scrolling through all those threads. Sometimes I just say "forget it" & go to a different message board that does have a separate games/exchange forum.

 

[Blondie]

I'll get right on pulling up those old posts!

Where is anyone mocking "everyone" that posts on game threads? Suggesting the game threads be moved, posting an opinion that the game threads litter up the board or posting a bunch of inane posts that look like game threads is hardly mocking anyone, let alone everyone. We're talking about threads here, not people. Making an opinion known about a subject doesn't mean you mock everyone who happens to post on any particular thread.

Mocking someone would be like changing letters in someone's user name then making inane posts that belittle the person. That's personal. That's about a person, not a thing. That would be mocking someone passive aggressively.

Tigger&Belle ... you post passive aggressive stuff all the time! When you hijack a thread for your own entertainment ... passive aggressive. When you tell people they should take a nap ... passive aggressive. When you talk about other members on a "clique" thread as if the other members don't matter .... passive aggressive. When you use code words for other members on clique threads, like Wune ... passive aggressive. Even saying to someone "You have 163 posts" " ... is passive aggressive. Etc. Etc. Like I said before, Dan doesn't have the market to himself when it comes to passive aggressive behavior.

Maybe that's it in a nutshell. The entire CB has become passive aggressive.

Words of wisdom my friend.....words of wisdom!